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Doctor Who


Xinlo

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I can't even put my frustration with this show into words... every new episode that comes out makes me dislike it more. The potential is there, as it always was, for amazing things, but at literally every turn it's almost intentionally ruined.

 

it's like every time there might be a redeeming moment moffat goes "lol fart joke"

 

obviously there aren't (many) actual fart jokes but you get my point I hope

 

gaaaaaaaaah

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oh look kiss scene hahaha i'm sure all the guys watching are real happy with that one
the doctor is flirting with a dinosaur, C O M E D Y
two women in a relationship, i'll objectify one to no end and make the other the 'man' so that (s)he can be cruel and flirt with everyone like every other guy on this show apparently does
oh, those silly scottish with their 'independence' and their 'accents'
 
moffat is a creative genius

 
- Indigo Individual

EDIT: as a side-note, though, i would like to point out that RTD made quite a few actual fart jokes, although moffat's are considerably worse

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Every showrunner has a certain number of good seasons, and I think Moffat used up all of his good ideas in series 5 and 6. Everything since then has been a mess (except for the 50th special). RTD had four good seasons, then sucky specials.
 
I'd like to see Moffat leave before Capaldi does, but my hunch is that they'll exit at the same time.

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Every showrunner has a certain number of good seasons, and I think Moffat used up all of his good ideas in series 5 and 6. Everything since then has been a mess (except for the 50th special). RTD had four good seasons, then sucky specials.

 

I'd like to see Moffat leave before Capaldi does, but my hunch is that they'll exit at the same time.

i don't really care about planet of the dead or that one with the cybermen (because as far as i can recall, they weren't anything exceptional), but are you saying that the end of time and the waters of mars are 'sucky'?

 

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Planet Of The Dead is one of my favourite episodes lol. And IMO season 6 is where the badness started. It had quite a few good episodes still but its plot arc was a mess. Also totally agree with you, indigo.

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are you saying that the end of time and the waters of mars are 'sucky'?

The Waters of Mars wasn't all that bad but The End of Time was terrible. The plot was just plain ridiculous and a lot of it just felt ... kind of forced, to be honest. After Journey's End - which was amazing - I never felt as if the specials lived up to their potential.

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Planet Of The Dead is one of my favourite episodes lol. And IMO season 6 is where the badness started. It had quite a few good episodes still but its plot arc was a mess. Also totally agree with you, indigo.
i'm with you on season 6; the first half was pretty good, but the latter was mediocre at best and it was all downhill from there

 

The Waters of Mars wasn't all that bad but The End of Time was terrible. The plot was just plain ridiculous and a lot of it just felt ... kind of forced, to be honest. After Journey's End - which was amazing - I never felt as if the specials lived up to their potential.
i respect your opinion but disagree entirely with it (apart from the bit where you described Journey's End as amazing, because it was)apart from the slightly forced and very strange nature of the Master's revival, i loved The End Of Time. Simm's Master was as great as ever, and it tied up and finished off the Tenth Doctor's plot and Russel T. Davies' run perfectly (imo).- Indigo Individual
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I'm with Sumiki here. As far as I see it, The End of Time was just the absolute worst and both a disgrace to Tennant's run, and to the Master as a whole. John Simm was already doing a terrible job portraying the Master (though admittedly not as bad as Eric Roberts' role) and this just upped his hamminess to hobo-eating levels of awful. It was poorly thought out, from the Master somehow getting resurrected by a bunch of people who were just really attached to their Prime Minister, to an entire twenty minute sob-fest as Tennant crawled around and said goodbye to every character RTD had ever written. That's all my opinion, but I'm sure as Karzahni gonna stick with it.

 

As for the latest episode, I'm of two minds about it. It didn't need to be 75 minutes long. It didn't need a dinosaur traipsing around London. It didn't need a forced relationship between a lizard lady and a Victorian lady being shoved in front of the camera every five minutes. As far as I see it, Moffat could have cut the first half an hour off the episode and gone almost straight to the scene in the restaurant and it would have been good to go from there. After that I enjoyed it for the most part. Yeah, there were still awkward scenes but it maintained a level of tension and set up Capaldi's Doctor as a legitimately intriguing force. 

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