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Superman vs. Batman

Posted by Kragghle , in The Blog Nov 30 2012 · 5,397 views

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:kaukau: Area of comparison: Everything.  Just argue the heck out of which character you like more, which has a greater meaning, which is cooler, which is the crown jewel of DC, which you aspire more to be like, etc.


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Thing is that I'm not saying they're objectively better, I'm saying I'd put my money on them in a fight. What Kraggh's "Objectively Better" comment implies is that Mary Poppins is better than the Daleks in every which way, which I'm saying I disagee with.

I'm not having it both ways, I'm having it my way. =P
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Thing is that I'm not saying they're objectively better, I'm saying I'd put my money on them in a fight. What Kraggh's "Objectively Better" comment implies is that Mary Poppins is better than the Daleks in every which way, which I'm saying I disagee with.

I'm not having it both ways, I'm having it my way. =P


So you're saying that since Mary Poppins is practically perfect in every way, the Daleks are literally perfect in every way.

That's going to take a little more convincing. :P
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No, you misunderstand! The Daleks are horrible messes from a biological standpoint, woefully inefficient from a design standpoint, and just silly from any reasonable perspective. But what they objectively do better than Mary Poppins is murder. And that's what this is all about, right?
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No, you misunderstand! The Daleks are horrible messes from a biological standpoint, woefully inefficient from a design standpoint, and just silly from any reasonable perspective. But what they objectively do better than Mary Poppins is murder. And that's what this is all about, right?


Not really. Makuta didn't even actually murder anyone until Mata Nui, and then he started with the lightning from the sky at people he didn't like.

And if this had anything to do with murdering, I doubt Kraggh would have bothered to put R2-D2 and Mary Poppins as options in the first place. 'Sides, if she cared to, Poppins could probably wipe out whoever she wanted with her demon parrot umbrella.
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:kaukau: To clear up a few things, when I started with my initial match-up I was imagining a question more like "could R2D2 foil the Dalek's latest plan", not so much "could R2D2 permanently wipe out the entirety of the Dalek race". I'll clarify from now on the area of comparison.

By the way, I'm sorry about removing your vote, Xaerez. I did my editing in a bit too much of a haste because I decided that I didn't want to get too involved in arguing

Anyway, it looks like Makuta won this round. Next round: Makuta vs. The Avengers.

Area of comparison: Death match.

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Ahhhh, a specified playing field works well. Makuta, again. Giant robot of doom.

Also, no hard feelings, brah. Sometimes I just need to be bitter and that was the perfect opportunity.
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Makuta.
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Vorahk1Panrahk2
Sep 27 2012 08:57 AM
I don't know much about the Avengers, but I'd say Makuta. After all, he has 42 powers and they have, what, five? I can't imagine they'd be anything more than an annoyance to him.
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Fairy Knight
Sep 27 2012 09:46 AM
Makuta all the way. ^_^

Also this:
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I would've loved to put it under a philosophical entry, but since this is the most recent I put it here ;D
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Makuta all the way. ^_^

Also this:
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I would've loved to put it under a philosophical entry, but since this is the most recent I put it here ;D

Haven't you already approved this blog before? *looks at content block to the left*

Anyways, Makuta wins this hands down.
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Obsessionist
Sep 27 2012 10:14 AM
Makuta for sure.
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Fairy Knight
Sep 27 2012 10:54 AM

Haven't you already approved this blog before? *looks at content block to the left*

I can approve blogs as many times as I want! :P

No seriously. I made a new approval, so I just re-approve. ^_^
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Not sure. If it's the giant robot Makuta, yes. If it's the classic Makuta, I think Thor and Hulk could make things difficult for him, considering they're both practically immortal and he's got that antidermis problem.

The Giant robot is no contest, though.
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Makuta. No contest.
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Tony Stark.

Not the Avengers, just Tony Stark.

-Janus
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Iron Man is about six feet.

Makuta last we saw him was 2374982317847230984798237498217984723098749821709 or whatever feet.

He probably would forget about Iron Man and accidentally kick him across a universe if they fought.

Now, if it was traditional Makuta, you might have a point, until he breaks out the magnetism. So much for that fight.
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farmstink buttlass
Sep 27 2012 03:31 PM
The Avengers
no question
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I'd bet my life savings on Makuta winning that fight no matter which of his two godly forms he was in.

Two bad I wasn't around to vote for Mary Poppins when that round was running.
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I don't know about Makuta in his own body versus the Avengers.

I mean, you remember what the Hulk did to Loki, right? Makuta is nowhere near as strong as the Hulk, and Thor's hammer could probably punch into his armor and let loose the antidermis before he could shake both Thor and the Hulk. Iron Man, Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Cpt. America don't even factor in, though.

Since Makuta's giant robot body actually belonged to Mata Nui, I'm going to cast my vote based on his actual body vs. the Avengers. In which case, Avengers win.

So, Avengers.
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I don't know about Makuta in his own body versus the Avengers.

I mean, you remember what the Hulk did to Loki, right? Makuta is nowhere near as strong as the Hulk, and Thor's hammer could probably punch into his armor and let loose the antidermis before he could shake both Thor and the Hulk. Iron Man, Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Cpt. America don't even factor in, though.

Since Makuta's giant robot body actually belonged to Mata Nui, I'm going to cast my vote based on his actual body vs. the Avengers. In which case, Avengers win.

So, Avengers.

Now, I ain't Makuta or nothin', so I don't know how he would handle the situation, but I would assume that, since makuta can possess inanimate objects in AD form, he would just take over the Iron Man armor. That not only keeps him together, but it adds the complication that if they want to damage him, they have to seriously injure Tony.
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First round would certainly go to Makuta. He has enough powers and enough experience to be able to take on the Avengers. Sure, over time they might be able to discover his weaknesses and take advantage of them, but I'm going to assume they don't have a "Defeating Makuta for Dummys" book with them when this fight begins.

:music:
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Inferna Firesword
Sep 27 2012 10:23 PM

First round would certainly go to Makuta. He has enough powers and enough experience to be able to take on the Avengers. Sure, over time they might be able to discover his weaknesses and take advantage of them, but I'm going to assume they don't have a "Defeating Makuta for Dummys" book with them when this fight begins.

:music:

I agree with this. Makuta would win, no questions asked.

-Inferna
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:kaukau: I didn't actually count the votes, but I got the general idea that Makuta would win. I agree with the majority here; Makuta in either form is too powerful. Even in his classic form, he has 42 powers. Personally, I find it BS that between his gravity powers, shape shifting, invulnerability, healing factor, density control, stasis fields, and dodging abilities he was defeated by a wall hitting him (and earlier by Vakama by getting hit by a rock).

Anyway, Makuta vs. The Manas. Area of comparison: Which set would you rather have?

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I don't think there is much comparison. I have both sets, and while the Makuta is more aesthetic, the Manas are freaking remote-controlled battle machines. The Manas are cooler, no contest.
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Vorahk1Panrahk2
Sep 28 2012 09:26 AM
The Manas set, easily. Remote controlled, and the heads don't fall off.
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Manas. I already have them, though, and their awesome.
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MANAS. WANT. ALWAYS HAVE WANTED. ALWAYS WILL WANT.
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:kaukau: I agree with Sumiki, down to the very use of the use of the word "freaking". That, and I'm very jealous. "Want. Always have wanted. Always will want." So for me it's the Manas.

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farmstink buttlass
Sep 28 2012 12:59 PM
The Manas set is definitely more interesting.
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Makuta definitely wins. The Manas were perhaps the most boring Rahi (besides possibly the Nui-Rama) in terms of functionality, and seemingly existed solely for the remote control gimmick. I looked forward to getting the Manas as soon as I learned about them in 2001, then got them, played with them a few times, rebuilt them into the Mana-Ko (which was slightly less boring), took them apart hoping to find something to do with that terrible motor brick they used, and, failing that, hardly gave them another thought. Years later I was able to buy Muaka and Kane-Ra from a vendor at Brickfair, and upon building them I realized that they were a vastly superior set, and the one I should have spent my $80 on so many years before.

What was the functionality of the Manas? Well, they had a motor on the left and a motor on the right, connected by one of the most useless, unwieldy motor/battery box bricks ever devised. The motors controlled their treads and jabbing claw functionality at the same time, giving them awkward robotic movements (fitting, since early story information suggested that they were in fact robots and not Rahi). And when one's masks were both struck, a little gear popped down so their treads were no longer on the ground. Compare that to the Muaka and Kane-Ra sets, whose legs fall off when their masks are removed, and which have a much more fearsome means of attacking than a silly little punch. Or even compare the Tarakava, whose jaws drop when they lose their masks, and which also have a more dynamic play feature to attack one another.

Makuta, on the other hand, still stands out as a gorgeous set design in spite of his woefully-limited posability and inexplicable, hardly humanoid anatomy. He just exudes character, specifically the character of a dark, menacing, and well-guarded villain. His function, a swinging upper body, is very fun and allows for a dynamic range of movement in his torso to make up for the limited movement in his legs. He makes a great display piece, and comes with lots of lovely parts for one's collection.

In short, the Manas is a set that's easy to want but hard to enjoy. Makuta, on the other hand, is the kind of set you never should regret owning.
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