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The Toa Nuva vs Avatar Aang


Jean Valjean

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:kaukau: I can't decide. Who would win in a fight? Let's assume for this that Aang is willing to kill during this fight.

 

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Let's assume for this that Aang is willing to kill during this fight.

 

You lost me already. If Aang killed, he wouldn't be Aang anymore.

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to be fair, the toa aren't willing to kill, so theres no reason for aang to. I do believe that the Toa Nuva would win, because the six of them could overpower and outmaneuver Aang.

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:kaukau: Alright, who could go for the knockout, then?  (I don't watch boxing or mixed martial arts or other combat sports, so I don't know exactly what qualifies as a definitive "win" in a fight without, you know, killing the other person).

 

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Remind me not to play sports with you.

 

I'd say the Toa Nuva. Elementally they're all matched up, assuming Aang can handle multiple opponents at once. But the Nuva also have their Kanohi Nuva, so they can share those six powers amongst themselves, and I think that would tip the balance. (Even more so if they're playing underwater and we can finally take the Kaukau into account.)

 

:music:

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:kaukau: Hey, I only said that I'm not into combat sports!  You can totally play other sports with me, such as basketball, swimming, and track'n'field.  With those, I'm actually fun to be around.

 

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I'd say the Toa Nuva. Elementally they're all matched up, assuming Aang can handle multiple opponents at once. But the Nuva also have their Kanohi Nuva, so they can share those six powers amongst themselves, and I think that would tip the balance. (Even more so if they're playing underwater and we can finally take the Kaukau into account.)

 

 

Yeah, 6v1 are heavily slanted odds, and the versatility of the Kanohi Nuva is hard to beat.  Plus it's safe to say the Nuva have finer control over their elements--I'd say that's the case for Toa vs Bending in general, and the Nuva in particular are supposed to be better than your average Toa.

 

Also if they have their adaptive armor on top of all this then this doesn't even seem fair.  Aang's going to spend the next 100 years in a Toa Seal.

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Also if they have their adaptive armor on top of all this then this doesn't even seem fair.  Aang's going to spend the next 100 years in a Toa Seal.

wouldn't be the first time he's sealed away anyways. he'll live.

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Also if they have their adaptive armor on top of all this then this doesn't even seem fair.

 

 

:kaukau: I hated those sets and choose to ignore all of the storyline that came after 2003.  So in my mind, there's no adaptive armor in this scenario.  We're talking about the 2002 sets.  You know, the good old days.

 

It's been a while, so I might be a bit ignorant on this, but I completely forget just how much control the Toa had over their elements.  I definitely remember the Avatar having a lot of control, though.  But if you say that the Toa have more control, I'll believe you.

 

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The Toa Nuva take this easily. While Aang has control over lots of things, the Toa Nuva have far better durability, offensive output and abilities. With the exception of fire, Aang needs the elements to be present to control them. All of the Toa Nuva have the possibility to easily counter him like this, but in character they would most likely work as a team to accomplish this goal. Their mask powers give them yet another edge over Aang. The Toa Nuva have fought enemies willing to kill them before, such as the Piraka, but Aang lacks the OP powers that let the Piraka win. Toa Nuva have vastly different anatomies than humans, which would ruin any anatomy based powers like bloodbending and possibly energybending. Metalbending could pose a threat, but I doubt Aang will be able to use it on all the Toa at once. 

 

The Nuva take this almost easily. They have the numbers, strength, toughness and abilities. Aang might kill one or two (Possibly Kopaka or Gali.) but he can't possibly defeat all of them unless its a bloodlusted ambush.

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