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Columbus Day

Posted by Jean Valjean , in Events Oct 09 2017 · 77 views

:kaukau: My opinion on the great controversy that it this day: Why is this a day to begin with? I mean, the argument in favor of this holiday is that it's historical, and the argument against it is that the explorer himself started slavery. My thoughts? The reason why this holiday is that it commemorates the discovery of the New World by the empires of the West, which started a fundamentally different era in world history. That's the reason why we commemorate Christopher Columbus over far more accomplished explorers like Amerigo Vespucci. If you really want to commemorate the historic significance of the discovery of the New World without having any of the controversy surrounding the person that started that age of discovery, just name the day after the event, not the person. So today could just as easily be New World Day, or Discovery Day, or Exploration Day. Or "Day that Initiated Full Economic, Political, Cultural, and Military Relationships Between Our Hemisphere and that Other Hemisphere," if you wish to get particularly wordy.

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I think its rise in prominence had to do with the celebrating Italian heritage by remembering an Italian explorer (who was doing it on behalf of Spain.) So it was Italian-Americans going "If not for our guy, the rest of y'all wouldn't even be here." But yeah, once you look past all the glorification of his expedition, you realize he did a lot of terrible stuff, and the whole European expansion to the "New World" didn't go well for the locals. (The problem with learning history is realizing that people in the past were really horrible.)

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I think my birthday is more important to America than Columbus day. He was an incompetent buffoon, and we shouldn't be celebrating his memory.

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Hyethut (Iaredios)
Oct 10 2017 07:57 PM

I prefer the name Discovery Day.

 

 

I think its rise in prominence had to do with the celebrating Italian heritage by remembering an Italian explorer (who was doing it on behalf of Spain.) So it was Italian-Americans going "If not for our guy, the rest of y'all wouldn't even be here." But yeah, once you look past all the glorification of his expedition, you realize he did a lot of terrible stuff, and the whole European expansion to the "New World" didn't go well for the locals. (The problem with learning history is realizing that people in the past were really horrible.)

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People are still bad. Likewise, many people in the past were also good just like today, but bad things have a tendency to overshadow good done.

 

Though the tactics of the Spanish were evil, many natives weren't too good themselves (especially Aztecs). But either way, the plagues caused by the arrival of Old Worlders caused much more fatality than any human could prior to the Atomic Age, diseases largely emptying the New World of it's human habitation long before colonists moved int o occupy the free land. Pigs that escaped from colonies (pigs were not native to the americas), became wild boars, and ravaged un-fenced native farms and caused starvation also did not help either.

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Jean Valjean
Oct 10 2017 08:45 PM

:kaukau: Italians, eh?  That reminds me, I've been meaning to make another blog entry on the Italian language...

 

 

I think my birthday is more important to America than Columbus day. He was an incompetent buffoon, and we shouldn't be celebrating his memory.

 

I always thought the same thing, that he was incompetent and didn't know what he was doing and kind of a weirdo.  No offense to Italians, of course!

 

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