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Palaeontologists RUINED Dinosaurs!


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Remember real dinosaurs? I don't mean that upright-walking bipedal garbage, I mean this. Giant iguanas are so much cooler than what palaeontologists have reduced dinosaurs to. Active lifestyles? As if they could possibly know that from JUST BONES. Sick of all the sensationalism in palaeontology.

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But does it shoot lazers?

 

Sometimes I think people forget to ask the important questions.

 

(This was sarcasm. I actually don't know too much about the field of Palaeontology, as incredulous as that sounds. XP)

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Clearly the new Jurassic World film will be used in colleges as an educational film. It's not like the film is a hack cashgrab that is totally not just the first film but now with MORE PEOPLE. It's not like you can tell people they're wrong about dinosaurs and point them towards better resources. But seriously, don't you think you're taking this a bit far? Like you're treating like the world will end if someone doesn't know dinosaurs had feathers.
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I don't mean to speak for Wally, but in my opinion the spreading of misinformation is rarely a good thing if ever. It may not seem like the most important issue to people outside of the field, but trust me, correcting erroneous information is always important.

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I don't mean to speak for Wally, but in my opinion the spreading of misinformation is rarely a good thing if ever. It may not seem like the most important issue to people outside of the field, but trust me, correcting erroneous information is always important.

I agree, but no one is gonna to treat this as anything other than a summer blockbuster. I've loved Dinosaurs since I was kid and have a ton of dinosaur books. I know this movie is not gonna be scientifically accurate, but I know it's not meant to be accurate. That and be accurate would require someone in the crew to actually care which Jurassic World is devoid of it.

 

Here's the thing this stuff happens to EVERYTHING. People still think sharks' primary diet consist of humans. People still think video games are just murder simulators. People still think hacking takes second in contrast to taking weeks or months. I love all these things and it pains me to see people believe these things. But what is the worst thing to happen because of these inaccuracies? You can argue people have killed sharks but we now have laws that protect them. Other than that nothing bad has happened because of this.

 

My point is people getting stuff wrong about dinosaurs will at worst annoy paleontologist and get some answers wrong on test. People don't know dinosaurs had feathers. So what? You can inform them they're wrong and point them towards the right resources. If they don't listen, it's their fault you did everything you could. All I got to say.

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It's not that I don't understand how you think it's pedantic, but I still disagree. Few people bother to sit down and do actual research. It takes someone to shout and say "HEY THIS IS VERY WRONG, WHAT THE HECK PEOPLE?!" in order to bring attention to average Joes and Janes.

 

I can't say it's going to benefit my life entirely by knowing more about dinosaurs, but I personally do find it interesting. So, I'm fine if paleontologists want to, say, vent on a children friendly website about a renewed children's toyline about the scandals of dinosaur politics. Seriously, weird and cool facts are something I personally love about the blogs. Learn something new everyday.

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Clearly the new Jurassic World film will be used in colleges as an educational film. It's not like the film is a hack cashgrab that is totally not just the first film but now with MORE PEOPLE. It's not like you can tell people they're wrong about dinosaurs and point them towards better resources. But seriously, don't you think you're taking this a bit far? Like you're treating like the world will end if someone doesn't know dinosaurs had feathers.

 

All this entry is saying is that, in my eyes, believing JP dinosaurs to be "true" dinosaurs is like saying Waterhouse Hawkins sculptures are real dinosaurs, and preferring them just as foolish.

 

You added all that extra stuff yourself. You're inferring way too much from this entry.

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Clearly the new Jurassic World film will be used in colleges as an educational film. It's not like the film is a hack cashgrab that is totally not just the first film but now with MORE PEOPLE. It's not like you can tell people they're wrong about dinosaurs and point them towards better resources. But seriously, don't you think you're taking this a bit far? Like you're treating like the world will end if someone doesn't know dinosaurs had feathers.

 

All this entry is saying is that, in my eyes, believing JP dinosaurs to be "true" dinosaurs is like saying Waterhouse Hawkins sculptures are real dinosaurs, and preferring them just as foolish.

 

You added all that extra stuff yourself. You're inferring way too much from this entry.

 

I was coming from the standpoint of the past three or four entries. Where you talked about how it was a bad thing the new (totally not a cashgrab) Jurassic park film didn't get the dinosaurs right and people would never learn the true facts about dinosaurs (specifically feathers). Perhaps I did infer everything else and over thought it. But my point is anyone who gets their dinosaur information from a movie like Jurassic Park and thinks its 100% accurate is an idiot. I honestly don't think anyone is gonna treat this as anything other than a dumb summer blockbuster (that will probably suck). If they don't and treat it as their go to info for dinosaurs, then let them be idiots. I just find this yapping about "muh accuracy" to be pointless because you really haven't accomplished anything. All I'm saying.

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Clearly the new Jurassic World film will be used in colleges as an educational film. It's not like the film is a hack cashgrab that is totally not just the first film but now with MORE PEOPLE. It's not like you can tell people they're wrong about dinosaurs and point them towards better resources. But seriously, don't you think you're taking this a bit far? Like you're treating like the world will end if someone doesn't know dinosaurs had feathers.

 

All this entry is saying is that, in my eyes, believing JP dinosaurs to be "true" dinosaurs is like saying Waterhouse Hawkins sculptures are real dinosaurs, and preferring them just as foolish.

 

You added all that extra stuff yourself. You're inferring way too much from this entry.

 

I was coming from the standpoint of the past three or four entries. Where you talked about how it was a bad thing the new (totally not a cashgrab) Jurassic park film didn't get the dinosaurs right and people would never learn the true facts about dinosaurs (specifically feathers). Perhaps I did infer everything else and over thought it. But my point is anyone who gets their dinosaur information from a movie like Jurassic Park and thinks its 100% accurate is an idiot. I honestly don't think anyone is gonna treat this as anything other than a dumb summer blockbuster (that will probably suck). If they don't and treat it as their go to info for dinosaurs, then let them be idiots. I just find this yapping about "muh accuracy" to be pointless because you really haven't accomplished anything. All I'm saying.

 

 

People assume all kinds of things they see in films are correct, and they're not necessarily all idiots, which seems to be your go-to argument for anyone who is in any way influenced by the media they take in, which leads me to believe you have a very odd definition of "idiot" that is pretty much equivalent to "human". Why you think no steps should be taken to address this is still not well-explained, and from my perspective mind-boggling.

 

I think starting a conversation about these inaccuracies is the first step towards educating people as to what dinosaurs were really like, which seems to be what people like you who want me to shut up are saying is the solution, so I don't understand why you want me to shut up when I'm actually educating people just like you think I should do? Seems kind of contradictory to me.

 

Infantilizing people with that idiotic "muh _____" 4chan meme is possibly the biggest turnoff for any sort of actual argument because it shows a complete disrespect for the other person and their views. If you expect me to take your words with any kind of respect and seriousness, don't address me like that. It's certainly not going to get me to stop talking about things I'm passionate about.

 

But Jurassic World wasn't the point of this entry. The point of this entry was to mock people who act like there is still any kind of scientific basis or argument behind old, inaccurate dinosaur depictions by comparing their views to even older, even more inaccurate dinosaur depictions. Aren't those people silly? I like to laugh at them.

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People assume all kinds of things they see in films are correct, and they're not necessarily all idiots, which seems to be your go-to argument for anyone who is in any way influenced by the media they take in, which leads me to believe you have a very odd definition of "idiot" that is pretty much equivalent to "human". Why you think no steps should be taken to address this is still not well-explained, and from my perspective mind-boggling.

What I meant (and I agree I didn't get this point across) was that people who use this movie as their ONLY source of dino information. I admit I failed to get that point across so I'm sorry for the confusion.

 

 

 

I think starting a conversation about these inaccuracies is the first step towards educating people as to what dinosaurs were really like, which seems to be what people like you who want me to shut up are saying is the solution, so I don't understand why you want me to shut up when I'm actually educating people just like you think I should do? Seems kind of contradictory to me.

That's fine but you're doing it on a toysite with not a lot of views. My point is you're trying to start a conversation in a small isolated room of about five people who already know its inaccurate. What I'm saying is you really haven't accomplished anything. The movie dinosaurs still don't have feathers, they still look like they did in the first movie, and the movie is still being made without any consideration for you. So chances are I did mess up what I wanted to say (these things happen) I'm sorry for that my stance is this: you can educate people but in order to get the best result you need a wider audience. Which unfortunately this site can't give you. You've basically been preaching to a choir.

 

 

 

Infantilizing people with that idiotic "muh _____" 4chan meme is possibly the biggest turnoff for any sort of actual argument because it shows a complete disrespect for the other person and their views. If you expect me to take your words with any kind of respect and seriousness, don't address me like that. It's certainly not going to get me to stop talking about things I'm passionate about.

Okay, my mistake. Didn't think my word choice through so sorry about. By all means go ahead and talk the stuff you like but don't think you'll actually change anything. Especially on this site with the limited traffic we get anyway.

 

 

 

But Jurassic World wasn't the point of this entry. The point of this entry was to mock people who act like there is still any kind of scientific basis or argument behind old, inaccurate dinosaur depictions by comparing their views to even older, even more inaccurate dinosaur depictions. Aren't those people silly? I like to laugh at them.

But wasn't Jurassic World the catalyst for the people who came out of the woodwork to defend the older depictions of dinosaurs? Maybe just me. If you like to laugh to people for their views you definitely ain't gonna change their minds. Like you said it shows disrespect for the other person's views something you criticized me for. The entire point of this is that think about what you have accomplished. What have you actually accomplished? Perhaps I'm missing a lot, but I just find these pointless because at the end of the day you haven't changed anything. 

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Well, this entry wasn't made to change anything. This entry was made to mock the most illogical, mule-headed, and immobile of Jurassic Park fans. I've already acknowledged that they will refuse to budge and so instead I seek to show how ridiculous their views truly are.

 

Sometimes, I like to make a post about dinosaur things not just for the sake of educating people, but to vent, or to get a point across I feel people on this site still haven't grasped (for example, people who still don't get why I'm so passionate about this). It's just nice to talk about things you're passionate about, you know?

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While I think inaccurate dinosaurs in media are no big deal, I think it's stupid how many people take the opposite tack and say that feathered dinosaurs "look stupid" (hint: they don't) or choose to insist that outdated or inaccurate portrayals are correct, regardless of new developments.

 

Of course, that attitude extends beyond dinosaurs. Just look at the uproar over Pluto being demoted from planetary status. Even though that was merely an issue of categorization, it showed how upset people can become when their long-held beliefs are challenged by new developments in science.

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