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Breasts

Posted by Queen Grr , Aug 01 2010 · 308 views

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Building a MOC or making a drawing of a female character?

Remember this stuff -

1. Women's hips are generally the same width as their shoulders. This is in contrast to men, whose shoulders are broader than their hips.

2. Women have two, distinct breasts, not one contiguous unit.

3. Breasts are affected by gravity. They aren't just floating there, or growing forward (and certainly not upward); they basically grow downward and outward from each other. A good Bionicle point of reference would be to say that Roodaka's breasts are basically in the wrong direction: they're growing outward fine, at the right-ish angle, but they're going upwards instead of downwards. This is, ah, wrong.

4. Breasts grow from the chest, not the neck.


This is an open letter from the BBC staff. smile.gif

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Tufi Piyufi
Aug 01 2010 02:47 PM
Thumbs? Up.
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Cue the outcries of "BIONICLE doesn't have to have human proportions!"
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In Life Drawing we learned to draw with a figured divided into eight heads, so essentially it was only eight heads tall. While it might not apply to Bionicle proportions entirely it is a good base to start off of if you’re drawing. For instance, a man’s shoulders are generally two heads wide and his hips are one and a half heads wide. Women’s shoulders are one and a half heads wide and their hips can be the same or two heads wide. Although those technically details don’t really apply they’re still helpful to know.
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Engineer Alexandra Humva
Aug 01 2010 04:26 PM
If one wants to get technical, no Mata-Nui era female Bionicle would have a larger chest. Breasts are kinda there for humans because they're required for raising young, as with all other mammals. But I'm pretty sure Bionicles aren't mammals, and all the Mata-Nui beings were created fully grown and aware. As such, it makes no logical sense why female, say, Toa or Matoran would have breasts. Same with Roodaka, but the specifics of how Sikiral or whatever race Roodaka was were created/born, so I digress.

Heck, it makes no sense why there'd even be two sexes in the Bionicle world, but it could be that since the Bara Magna inhabitants had two, the Great Beings put the same concept into their creation.
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QUOTE(Comrade Alex Humva @ Aug 1 2010, 05:26 PM)
If one wants to get technical, no Mata-Nui era female Bionicle would have a larger chest. Breasts are kinda there for humans because they're required for raising young, as with all other mammals. But I'm pretty sure Bionicles aren't mammals, and all the Mata-Nui beings were created fully grown and aware. As such, it makes no logical sense why female, say, Toa or Matoran would have breasts. Same with Roodaka, but the specifics of how Sikiral or whatever race Roodaka was were created/born, so I digress.

Heck, it makes no sense why there'd even be two sexes in the Bionicle world, but it could be that since the Bara Magna inhabitants had two, the Great Beings put the same concept into their creation.

Right, but the thing is, artists and MOCists keep insisting on giving their female characters breasts, so if they plan to do that, then they should as least try to make them actually look like breasts. Rather than watermelons stapled to the poor woman's trachea.
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Engineer Alexandra Humva
Aug 01 2010 04:36 PM
QUOTE(Smeagol4 @ Aug 1 2010, 04:35 PM)
Right, but the thing is, artists and MOCists keep insisting on giving their female characters breasts, so if they plan to do that, then they should as least try to make them actually look like breasts. Rather that watermelons stapled to the poor woman's trachea.

Ah. Well, in that case, I agree with you completely.
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*gasp* You said BREASTS! ohmy.gif

j/k, I've heard this from more than one MOCer already - but of course it obviously needs to be said again (for the new guys?)
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Peter Quill
Aug 01 2010 06:09 PM
QUOTE(Emzee @ Aug 1 2010, 05:58 PM)
*gasp* You said BREASTS! ohmy.gif




also I will admit I am guilty of making bad female MOCs

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Toa of Dancing
Aug 01 2010 06:26 PM
I must admit, I always depict females as having hips about half the size of their shoulders, though I am terrible with breasts, so I generally don't use them. :shrug:

Anyways, I agree with this, though it is more visually appealing to have a thin waist-hips area.
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Brave Dragon
Aug 01 2010 07:10 PM
QUOTE(Toa of Dancing @ Aug 1 2010, 03:26 PM)
I must admit, I always depict females as having hips about half the size of their shoulders, though I am terrible with breasts, so I generally don't use them. :shrug:

Anyways, I agree with this, though it is more visually appealing to have a thin waist-hips area.

Hips and waist are in two different areas, mate.

The hips are in the pelvic region, in which the pelvic bone is slightly wider (not bigger) than the rib cage. The waist is the conjoining area between the rib cage and the pelvis. Having a small waist is okay, but narrower hips than the thorax makes a woman a man with boobs.
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Hahli Husky
Aug 02 2010 02:06 AM
It must also be said that breasts do not sprout from the shoulders, either.
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Than the Moa
Aug 02 2010 03:48 AM
It's almost like you took everything mentioned in that AIM chat the other day and expanded upon it and then posted it here.

And that makes you awesome.
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Tuan Taureo
Aug 02 2010 04:59 AM
It's like over 50% of humanity is some strange alien Cthulhu hybrid.

*waves a tentacle-arm*

This is where I become thankful that I don't frequent the BBC and Art subforums much anymore.
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For women MOC's once I put Nuva shoulder armor in nuva chest armor. Looks pretty good when it's done. I think I might make a female MOC.

Toa Daiker
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Tufi Piyufi
Aug 03 2010 10:18 PM
QUOTE(Toa Daiker @ Aug 3 2010, 07:59 PM)
For women MOC's once I put Nuva shoulder armor in nuva chest armor. Looks pretty good when it's done. I think I might make a female MOC.

Toa Daiker

This isn't actually a good idea. Nuva shoulder armour, no matter what way you put it, looks horribly unnatural and/or exaggerated. The whole point of this entry is to explain how female bodies are in reality, which is different from the way they're usually built around here. Nuva shoulder armour flies right in the face of that.
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tent163phantoka
Aug 05 2010 08:02 AM
*Adds to Opera speed dial* Got it. thanks!
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Hooray, a topic about......
Wait a second.....this can't be right. For a second there, I thought this blog post was about Breasts.
..........no wait a second.....it is.





Amazing.



On a serious note, this is good tips for Artists. I know I for one have had trouble in the past with....this sort of.....problem.
-SK
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@ Point 2: But you can't see that clearly when they're wearing clothes. That's only needed when... Y'know... They're huge. Or nude. But the latter shouldn't be seen on BZP.
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Burnmad: Toa of Emoticons
Aug 06 2010 11:36 AM
Nor the former, really.

- burnmad.gif
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Just thought I'd point out that, for the Bionicle MOCing group, number two can, logically, be ignored with the excuse of armor.

Unless you do something stupid, like make it bulge out in the middle.
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