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Concerning The Ponies

Posted by LewaLew , in BZPower Oct 18 2011 · 39 views

You know, originally I was not concerned about this. I figured that the pony thing was just a temporary fad that would blow over, particularly after the six month downtime. But then I find that it lives on. I'm not sure whether this is a weird symptom of withdrawal from BIONICLE or just BZPower madness manifesting itself in a more unusual way than is typical of this site.

Now, granted, I like a lot of little kid shows, but most of them are discontinued and I watch them out of nostalgia and for a few good laughs. For instance, I still watch old Carmen Sandiego TV episodes on video sites and Hub because I used to watch them and play the computer games when I was younger, and more recently I've watched episodes of Teen Titans, which I last saw in 2003. And then there's that LEGO thing, which just stuck with me from the start.

But the ponies are just weird. I know it's not because of nostalgia, because the show isn't old enough, and it also confuses me because the target audience of the show is the exact opposite of BZPower's main member demographic. I understand the weird fascination because of an allusion someone made to the episode of Arthur (Which is another show that trumps the Ponies) where everyone starts watching Love Ducks, but really, wearing it wherever you go becomes a little creepy after a while. Even Arthur, Buster, and Binky etc. stopped after a short while.

Anyhow, those are my thoughts. Perhaps everyone is just preparing for a career writing children's television shows. I don't know. :shrugs: But I know until it's over, I'll be carrying a brony tranquilizer gun.

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It's just a good, entertaining cartoon that some people like and others misunderstand. There's nothing weird about it at all.
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But what's so creepy? It's the same as when people were using MSPA banners.
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But what's so creepy? It's the same as when people were using MSPA banners.

It's only more pink. :P
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Toa Nidhiki05
Oct 18 2011 01:59 PM
Excellent analysis, I used to watch that show and I know exactly what you are talking about. I wish this whole pony thing would just blow over, its gotten really old at this point.
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But what's so creepy? It's the same as when people were using MSPA banners.

That was creepy too, but when it's something my two youngest sisters will spend birthday money on, and it's teenage guys watching it, that's what I call creepy.

Granted, this is from a guy who embraced the Slugger Barbie name change. :P But that was more of a fun joke than the bronies situation.
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Sooo, it's creepy for teen and adult guys to enjoy something cute and innocent?

If anything, the message of Friendship is Magic is something that's sorely needed in this age of hatred and violence. =/


silly typo
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These are also the same people who mocked Whenua saying "Cuz dat's whut friends do." in Web o' Shadows.

HYPOCRITTERS :P

And violence isn't really all that big of an issue. BIONICLE has had it's fair share of violence, and it's still king on this site, and less violent (but still filled with fighting) Hero Factory is clearly the heir apparent of the BZPower throne, no matter how much the ponies try to usurp it. :P
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I guess that's the thing, a lot of the franchises marketed to boys are basically about violence or have lots of violence in them.

MLP is about finding ways to deal with each other without having resort to violence, for instance.


Also, I never watched Web of Shadows, so I don't get the reference, lol.
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Excellent analysis, I used to watch that show and I know exactly what you are talking about. I wish this whole pony thing would just blow over, its gotten really old at this point.

Too bad that likely won't happen any time soon - at least not until the show is canceled or ends.

See, this isn't just a fad, this is an actual legitimate fanbase. Just like BIONICLE fans, just like Trekkies, just like Whovians.
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Yes, but really? My Little Ponies? Like I said, I understand people being fans of kids' TV shows, but there's a point where it gets a little nutty. It's one thing for someone to have trouble outgrowing a show or a toy theme, but it's another thing when sixteen year old guys are obsessing online over a show that was made for girls a decade younger then they are.

It may be a quality show, like Dr. Seuss books are quality books. But they're a little out of our reading level, just as the ponies are out of our level of TV shows.

I like Dr. Seuss, and I read them to my sisters, but the BaseBlog isn't going to become the SeussBlog anytime soon.

"I do not like them here or there, I do not like ponies anywhere!"
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I still don't see the problem.
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It's a lot less girly than people think. Besides the source material it was based off of, tone and plot-wise it's fairly gender-neutral.

And between the alcohol jokes and frequent pop-culture references, I hardly believe that it can be called thoroughly childish - no more than, say, Phineas & Ferb is.
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Spongebob is the epitome of childish, in my opinion. There's a reason studies show it hurts brain development. :P

ARGH YOU CHANGED IT.

But Phineas and Ferb isn't all that different from what I've seen. Granted, all I've seen is the Little League World Series segments, but it's a show for 6-9 year olds. People that are half our age. I'm sure they can be entertaining, but there are far more forms of entertainment with more clever humor, better-planned and more substantial plot, and are designed for folks out of elementary school that are available.

Considering the choices, I find it odd that the favorite show of many active BZPers is suddenly My Little Ponies.
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Paragon of Demacia
Oct 18 2011 03:21 PM

People that are half our age. I'm sure they can be entertaining, but there are far more forms of entertainment with more clever humor, better-planned and more substantial plot, and are designed for folks out of elementary school that are available.

They're called opinions. And the best way to deal with a throng of people who don't necessarily share yours, especially over liking or not liking media, is to smile and nod, not to make an editorial about it.
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People that are half our age. I'm sure they can be entertaining, but there are far more forms of entertainment with more clever humor, better-planned and more substantial plot, and are designed for folks out of elementary school that are available.

They're called opinions. And the best way to deal with a throng of people who don't necessarily share yours, especially over liking or not liking media, is to smile and nod, not to make an editorial about it.

I <3 you for saying this.
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Anything that has awesome animation, music, writers, and voice actors, and references David Bowie (an entire episode), 2001: A Space Odyssey (twice!), and even alcohol, can't be all bad in my eyes. It's something that is timeless that can be enjoyed by anyone.

Then again, that's just my opinion.

(I do admit, a lot of bronies absolutely scare me. ._.)
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People that are half our age. I'm sure they can be entertaining, but there are far more forms of entertainment with more clever humor, better-planned and more substantial plot, and are designed for folks out of elementary school that are available.

They're called opinions. And the best way to deal with a throng of people who don't necessarily share yours, especially over liking or not liking media, is to smile and nod, not to make an editorial about it.


Actually, editorials would be pretty pointless if it weren't a good way of doing it. Nobody takes note of a smile and nod, but editorials draw quite a bit of attention, particularly on subjects people feel strongly about.

Although I'm frankly surprised more people aren't frightened by the growing brony empire. Hopefully the Cubestormer robots will be able to get the upper hand quickly and secure their regime. :P
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See, here's the problem here--it's not the people who watch the show. It's the people who make the show. It's the same people who worked on Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends and the Powerpuff Girls. So basically, the style of humor and whatnot in MLP:FiM is familiar to people who grew up watching those other shows, so it's like secondhand nostalgia.
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Never watched those shows either, so hard to counter that argument. However, this brings me to an earlier comment I noticed again.

It's a lot less girly than people think. Besides the source material it was based off of, tone and plot-wise it's fairly gender-neutral.


After you take out the source material, tone, and plot, there's not much of a show left.
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Paragon of Demacia
Oct 19 2011 10:13 AM

Actually, editorials would be pretty pointless if it weren't a good way of doing it. Nobody takes note of a smile and nod, but editorials draw quite a bit of attention, particularly on subjects people feel strongly about.

Well, I know that people feel 'strongly' about the message behind certain kinds of literature, about religion and politics (But that's neither here nor there), but about the entertainment value of a cartoon, about whether people use brony avatars?

That's kinda... skewed there. I mean, I might dislike Justin Bieber as much as the next guy, but I'm certainly not going to run around telling people to stop listening to him. I don't let my little brother's like of him bother me, unless he uses my laptop to watch Bieber vids or something.
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Did you not see the Hero Factory-BIONICLE arguments all over this site? Entertainment gives people very strong emotions.

But my main point is that the smile and nod approach doesn't get my opinion out. This blog entry obviously has.
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Paragon of Demacia
Oct 19 2011 10:51 AM
You make it sound like the HF-Bionicle arguments were a good thing.

People have likes and dislikes. Which is fine. But it's hardly nice of you to say 'I have an opinion and I will diss a show that I haven't watched because I don't like these avatars.'
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They weren't, but that doesn't mean people that don't like it ought to silence themselves either. The problem with HF-BIONICLE was the incivility. I don't see any incivility here yet.

And it's not because I don't like these avatars, and I have seen the My Little Ponies franchise--I have three sisters within its target age group, how could I avoid it?--and I am stating my opinion on it. I think it is weird and somewhat disturbing that teenage and adult guys are creating a fanbase online over a television show made for girls 10-15 years younger than themselves.
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Paragon of Demacia
Oct 19 2011 12:12 PM
Telling people that you find the fact that they like something that you yourself don't necessarily like "somewhat disturbing" and "weird" is pretty incivil in and of itself, imo, even if people aren't throwing out the heated words. Even if you hide it behind words like 'demographics' and 'made for so-and-so.'

I mean, look, you're 17. Do I find it disturbing that you like action/sorta-construction figures geared to people half your age? Not really. And even if I did, I certainly wouldn't go out and say it.
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Toa Nidhiki05
Oct 19 2011 12:19 PM
I can't speak for LewLew, but to me its not the fact that it is below their age level that makes it concerning - its the fact that the show is designed for little girls. This isn't something designed for unisexual appeal like SpongeBob SquarePants (a show I watch and enjoy), its designed for little girls. Is the fact that males are obsessing over a show designed for little girls not even the least bit strange to you?
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Paragon of Demacia
Oct 19 2011 12:28 PM

They're called opinions. And the best way to deal with a throng of people who don't necessarily share yours, especially over liking or not liking media, is to smile and nod, not to make an editorial about it.

Reposting because relevant.

For goodness' sake, it's not like the body snatchers are invading or anything.

Seriously, you're like a bunch of kids telling a boy to stop playing with barbies just because it's not 'manly,' or grabbing their books because it's 'nerdish.'
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I mean, look, you're 17. Do I find it disturbing that you like action/sorta-construction figures geared to people half your age? Not really. And even if I did, I certainly wouldn't go out and say it.

Firstly, I am only one year removed from the ages printed on the BIONICLE/Hero Factory packaging, so I don't find that surprising. Secondly, I see no problem with saying that I find it weird. Thirdly, I don't find it all that much different than someone telling me I have to muffle my opinion because they and several others disagree with it.

Seriously, you're like a bunch of kids telling a boy to stop playing with barbies just because it's not 'manly,' or grabbing their books because it's 'nerdish.'

Frankly, if I were to find adult and teenage guys playing with Barbies, I'd be even more creeped out than in this situation.
The books issue doesn't really relate to this situation, though. I am a strong advocate of reading. We need more of it, to be honest.

I also don't like the emotion that's starting to drive this discussion, so I'm going to lock the entry. We have a World Series to be focusing on, after all.
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