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Can't we all just get along?


Toa Nidhiki05

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I know I've gotten involved in some testy situations on here, but I really get upset whenever something blows over on here. For a website that I've been on for over half a decade, it really disappoints me that we can be so disruptive to each other. It's always bothered me how people can be so vicious on the internet due to a disagreement on something, but in real life we're more willing to be nice and talk. I have an idea: let's treat our internet relations just like you would treat a relationship with a friend, a co-worker, a classmate, or a roommate. If you wouldn't say it to any of those people in real life, don't say it on here. Conversely, treat interactions like you would with them - if something concerns you, tell them up-front and in a way that won't make them ignore the message.

 

Remember, we're all BIONICLE fans - can't we come together as a community and try and help understand each other, not tear each other down? If somebody says something that isn't right, there isn't a need to yell at them or say how terrible they are - explain what is wrong about it, and why it offends you personally. Understanding never hurt anyone, and that's all I am going to say.

 

-TN05

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Well, maybe when part of the forum stops being disturbing, bigoted....

 

I'm not a big fan of the word 'bigot':

 

Bigot - One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ.

 

Look, I have no issue with someone saying something is wrong... But you aren't going to convince anyone that you are correct by calling them a bigot. If you have the superior side, there should be no need for name-calling.

 

-TN05

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except calling a bigoted person a bigot is not just petty name-calling or an insult. it's the same as calling a liar a liar or a thief a thief.

 

if the shoe fits, wear it.

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except calling a bigoted person a bigot is not just petty name-calling or an insult. it's the same as calling a liar a liar or a thief a thief.

 

if the shoe fits, wear it.

 

Let's say you are correct. What does it accomplish? You aren't going to change someone's mind by insulting them.

 

-TN05

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except calling a bigoted person a bigot is not just petty name-calling or an insult. it's the same as calling a liar a liar or a thief a thief.

 

if the shoe fits, wear it.

 

Let's say you are correct. What does it accomplish? You aren't going to change someone's mind by insulting them.

 

-TN05

Some people's minds cannot be changed. Thus, public shaming is an acceptable or even desirable alternative. Their views are hateful, poison introduced into the body of the nation. We do not balk from calling a sickness a sickness, and what is bigotry but a sickness in the heart of a nation?

 

It is a label, an accurate one. One I shall apply. They may not see it as bigotry, but it is. There is a reason racists today are so very hesitant to state their views in a public forum, they know the shame and anger that it will call down on them. I don't care if I change a bigots mind, my primary objective is to shut him up. Trying to change their minds is normally an exercise in futility anyhow.

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Ladies, gentlemen, let's bring it down.

 

Do you want B6 to smite this entry, too?

 

At the moment, I think discussion here is going respectfully and fine. If this even gets close to getting out of hand I will lock and possibly delete this post entirely.

 

 

 

 

except calling a bigoted person a bigot is not just petty name-calling or an insult. it's the same as calling a liar a liar or a thief a thief.

 

if the shoe fits, wear it.

 

Let's say you are correct. What does it accomplish? You aren't going to change someone's mind by insulting them.

 

-TN05

Some people's minds cannot be changed. Thus, public shaming is an acceptable or even desirable alternative. Their views are hateful, poison introduced into the body of the nation. We do not balk from calling a sickness a sickness, and what is bigotry but a sickness in the heart of a nation?

 

It is a label, an accurate one. One I shall apply. They may not see it as bigotry, but it is. There is a reason racists today are so very hesitant to state their views in a public forum, they know the shame and anger that it will call down on them. I don't care if I change a bigots mind, my primary objective is to shut him up. Trying to change their minds is normally an exercise in futility anyhow.

 

If you have the superior argument, they will go away. The reason racists have to keep their beliefs relatively private is not that racism is publicly unacceptable, it is because there are simply no reasonable or factual arguments that support it. The goal of the civil rights movement was not to silence racists, it was to advance civil rights politically - and it worked.

 

-TN05

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If you have the superior argument, they will go away. The reason racists have to keep their beliefs relatively private is not that racism is publicly unacceptable, it is because there are simply no reasonable or factual arguments that support it. The goal of the civil rights movement was not to silence racists, it was to advance civil rights politically - and it worked.

 

-TN05

 

Ha. No.

 

See, I cited studies, linked to articles and provided examples in a debate with the aforementioned bigots. They promptly ignored them or resorted to logical fallacies. These people don't want to learn. They are only defended by those who sympathize with them for some unfathomable reason. They don't respond to reason, they don't respond to evidence. The only option is to keep them quiet, shame them down or such as. Not to mentioned, their viewpoints are in direct violation of the BZP rules and they still bring them up. If you want to talk about respect, I'll make you deal. They start respecting the basic rights all human beings share, and I'll stop calling them a bigot.

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If they responded with logical fallacies, you won. In an actual debate, you would likely win because of that. There is no need to call anyone bigots at that point.

 

I'm going to go ahead and lock this because there is not going to be constructive output here, which is a shame.

 

-TN05

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Thus, public shaming is an acceptable or even desirable alternative.

Not on BZPower. Insulting and being disrespectful to anyone will not be tolerated. If someone is putting forth what you feel are hateful or intolerant views, report it. 'Fighting back' and insulting them will just cause both parties to be punished. Do not fight fire with fire.
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