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bionicle stuff


Noxryn

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whenever i go to add new entry with the feature outside of my blog on the drop down list it still uses my older blog title, weird

 

anyway

 

on the whole bionicle coming back thing 'cuz i should say something as i was/is a fan of it

 

- hope it's a reboot

- hope the story doesn't become a convoluted mess of dark edginess and attempts to be gritty (and vezon can go away forever ok)

- hope the story is able to create its own unique identity

- hope the story is fun to read and features a larger, more interesting cast of female characters

- hope the story doesn't create the silly gender restrictions like last time, because that was terrible

- hope makuta goes away im done with his ten year long plans that have more plans inside of plans and plans for the unplannable. plans. (or they just make makuta better)

- hope every single little detail is not explained b/c that kinda killed latter bionicle for me, personally, when BZPers went and got every. single. small. little. detail. canonized and killed a lot of the fun imagination (ie: all the canonized "THIS IS WHAT THIS SIDE CHARACTER LOOKS LIKE OFFICIALLY" cuz no that's your headcanon and while it might be a cool one i have one i like more but can't use it anymore b/c people will cite BS01 when reviewing fanfiction featuring my artistic interpretation of that character kk)

- hope romance isn't like, decanonized, 'cuz cutesy romance is kinda fun and it's my weakness

- hope when it does go away again we dont get stuck with a bunch of BBBCers again

- hope it catches on and brings more new creative people around who do new things and explore new horizons in their own creative ways (i also miss the activity of the short stories forum i lived in there for like a year or two)

- idc if they have cheesy jokes everywhere, old bionicle did so (plus it's lego they do that)

- ngl i hope the story team doesn't have extremely long prolonged interaction with BZP or other forums on the basis that it'd prolly lead back into canonizing everything (though a way to have dialogue in like a feedback sort of way would be pretty cool... but it'd prolly be flooded with questions/canonization requests so eh).

- it'd be pretty cool if there were some gender non-conforming characters introduced, i'd personally really enjoy seeing that although im not really expecting it

- ill prolly buy gali, kopaka and pohatu and maybe lewa (kopaka/pohatu otp now and forever; gali seemed like she had a poseidon thing goin' on which seemed cool and lewa was... one of the earliest sets i got, so)

 

but in the end i mostly do hope i enjoy it again, can use it as a creative springboard on days when just stuck or dealing with writer's block, and yeah i know already i'll rant on a lot of stuff (most likely).

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I agree to most of this, though I do like a little grit, and I love Vezon. XD

 

Also, while some side characters should remain appearance-less, I hope they do more contests for fanmade canon, like the Tahtorak (that TLG actually acknowledges, not just Greg).

 

Hate to burst bubbles, but unfortunately as the main target is 9-year-olds, main purchasers are going to be parents of those kids.... and I think there's still enough traditionally-minded people of that age that Lego isn't going to take the risk of introducing subjects like gender fluidity, for fear of losing business. Hopefully in 10 years or so, when it's our kids, that will be different.

 

I'll probably buy and read everything, cuz I'm just so darn excited for its return. :b

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There are many days where I feel like I'm the only one who liked how expansive and comprehensive the universe became. Also, the gritty/edginess is going to be very subjective, obviously, but I like a good mix. As for Vezon, I have mixed feelings. I like him as a character, I'm just not sure about where the story was going.
 
Assuming reboot, the Makuta can come back if they get reworked, yeah. I'd have liked to see what they were like before the whole Teridax take-over thing went down.
 
But honestly, as much as I'll ship Jaller/Hahli all day and every day I actually kinda hope that they leave out the shipping from the get-go this round. I see enough of that in the rest of the media I consume and one of the reasons I like LEGO so much is that it doesn't get caught up in that. Being able to establish a really close relationship without having to bring it to "relationship status" is such a rarity these days and probably one of the top reasons I like Pacific Rim so much. I came to Bionicle for the ROBOTS and ELEMENTAL POWERS and I don't want my time wasted reading about arbitrary romance drama.
 
But then, it's all just subjective.


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I agree to most of this, though I do like a little grit, and I love Vezon. XD

 

Also, while some side characters should remain appearance-less, I hope they do more contests for fanmade canon, like the Tahtorak (that TLG actually acknowledges, not just Greg).

 

Hate to burst bubbles, but unfortunately as the main target is 9-year-olds, main purchasers are going to be parents of those kids.... and I think there's still enough traditionally-minded people of that age that Lego isn't going to take the risk of introducing subjects like gender fluidity, for fear of losing business. Hopefully in 10 years or so, when it's our kids, that will be different.

 

I'll probably buy and read everything, cuz I'm just so darn excited for its return. :b

i kinda liked Vezon when i was younger, but in retrospect his personality was too... forced, kinda, and wasn't written out in an interesting/clever way and just sort of served as the series' only source of comedic relief for a time. like, he felt a lot like a knockoff deadpool (i'm using knockoff to pick at Vezon being a less inspired, less interesting and entertaining version)... of course that is opinion and if people like Vezon coolies, the character just personally annoys me and i'll be happy if he is left out.

 

i'm well aware of that, even before writing this, i brought it up since this was a "things i'd like to see" and it's definitely something i genuinely would like to see acknowledged regardless of the likelihood it'll happen or not. but to be frank other media have agender characters and characters outside of the binary (ie: Renamon from Digimon, who described themself as lacking a gender) so it's not a concrete unlikelihood (i'd also point at Dark Sun Gwyndolin from Dark Souls, but the age range on that game is different and the creators likely didn't care about their implications with Dark Sun Gwyndolin's gender identity since it'd be adults playing mostly and you need to be interested in the lore to figure that out... but in Pokemon, Gardevoir can be male/female and is designed as if wearing a dress, that and there were trans characters in the Battle Mansion, and those games have a similar target audience Bionicle has). but either way, for a line targeted to kids, it would be nice to see a wider representation of people as kids aren't so homogenized and not all identify with the same thing.

 

but at the end of the day if i got back into fan writing stuff i'd prolly just retcon whatever i disliked into what i'd rather see.

 

There are many days where I feel like I'm the only one who liked how expansive and comprehensive the universe became. Also, the gritty/edginess is going to be very subjective, obviously, but I like a good mix. As for Vezon, I have mixed feelings. I like him as a character, I'm just not sure about where the story was going.

 

Assuming reboot, the Makuta can come back if they get reworked, yeah. I'd have liked to see what they were like before the whole Teridax take-over thing went down.

 

But honestly, as much as I'll ship Jaller/Hahli all day and every day I actually kinda hope that they leave out the shipping from the get-go this round. I see enough of that in the rest of the media I consume and one of the reasons I like LEGO so much is that it doesn't get caught up in that. Being able to establish a really close relationship without having to bring it to "relationship status" is such a rarity these days and probably one of the top reasons I like Pacific Rim so much. I came to Bionicle for the ROBOTS and ELEMENTAL POWERS and I don't want my time wasted reading about arbitrary romance drama.

 

But then, it's all just subjective.

 

 

Takuma Nuva

 

i like expansive and comprehensive worlds, but Bionicle took it to a different level and created a lot of meaningless fluff that people had to consume (and it kept expanding in nonsensical ways, like the entire alternate dimension thing) and all these new things largely just muddled up the focus for where we were and didn't really have a direct connection to what was happening (kinda like... felt done for a "cool" factor). it also felt sort of weird since we started with a fairly isolated island and the islands and societies largely stayed isolated from one another (i don't think Metru Nui was like, trading with anyone? Or the matoran really knew what was beyond their chunk of space, really? and the societies didn't vary much and weren't terribly interesting. like mata-nui you have villagers living and working together to survive on a fairly harsh, but sometimes pleasant, landscape while a shadowy evil messes with them, whereas on Metru Nui you kinda have the same thing just in a city setting and with a singular, corrupted, turaga leading things... but the corrupted turaga is just the modernized corrupted wildlife, which metru nui still had either way...). there weren't like, interesting struggles between the various island-nations that were current or described at much length, there wasn't much effort put into political structures or economies or how these civilizations actually worked and what made them unique and what their individual cultures were... which kinda made all these excesses of islands and groups feel ultimately pointless as they're not really serving to flesh out the world more and make it more involved and believable.

 

on makuta i meant like the character Makuta (teridax), because as a main villain he was incredibly dull, boring and became an annoying master planner who wouldn't go away.

 

tbh when i mean to keep it from decanonization, i mean to let it exist in the universe as something that occurs so it's not putting weird and arbitrary restrictions on creative interpretations, since there are people who really like sticking close to the source material's lore. on top of that i don't mind the things they did with hewkii/macku early on, as they were on the side, were largely just cutesy little things and i like cutesy little things.

 

i'd doubt canonizing romance would turn bionicle into a romance fest, i'd expect bionicle to introduce mass dismemberment before it introduced mass romantic relationships. or love triangles.

 

i hate love triangles.

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So long as they don't have a will they/won't they couple that's super frustrating because both are interested but then one says something stupid and then they don't get together for silly reasons and then they go back to flirting and I'm all like "KISS ALREADY!" and then the series gets cancelled and then they come out with a movie and then FINALLY they get together but it's at the end of the film so it rips you off on seeing them as an actual adorable couple and I get so angry that I rant about it in run-on sentences; I will be fine with BIONICE having romance.

 

Apropos of nothing, Firefly kinda bugged me.

 

(Also I agree with all of this list, more or less)

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Let's face it, if they maintain the no-romance rule the majority of us are going to keep on ignoring it. Frankly, I don't think even GREG paid that rule much heed—I always thought it was mostly an escape clause to keep him from having to answer shipping questions. :P

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Let's face it, if they maintain the no-romance rule the majority of us are going to keep on ignoring it. Frankly, I don't think even GREG paid that rule much heed—I always thought it was mostly an escape clause to keep him from having to answer shipping questions. :P

but

 

still a silly rule we can do without

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