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Bionicle Bionicle Bionicle Bionicle Bionicle Bionicle (do I really have to dig these up again)

Posted by Fox Mulder , Jun 04 2013 · 261 views

from "Lego and You":
 

At the end of the day, LEGO is still a company. They do what's best for the company, not their fans. LEGO is not your best friend or big sibling who tries to make you happy and give you everything you want, they are a company who will do whatever they can to help their sales or reputation.

They discontinued the BIONICLE sets, despite the fans' protests. Why? Because BIONICLE was slipping and they wanted something new. They wanted to get their sales back up.

They changed their policy, despite the fans' protests. Why? Legal issues mostly, presumably to avoid any sort of trouble or incidents that could potentially happen in the future.

Yes, it's true that LEGO has worked with the fans many times in the past. Heck, our own admin is currently an ambassador to LEGO. There have been exclusive sets designed by fans and such, but what you have to realize is that this isn't their primary function. Their primary function is to succeed and thrive as a company, whatever it takes.

Just something to consider before acting like everything LEGO has done that you dislike is some sort of a personal attack on the fans.

 
from "Bring Back Bionicle on Cuusoo: A Friendly Rant":
 

Hey guys. Know what Lego, as a company, is? A business. And do you know what the point of a business is? To make money. They provide a product in order to garner sales and, thus, to make money. If a product doesn't sell well enough, it gets canned. Remember Mars Mission, or Power Miners, or any of those other Lego themes that didn't sell well and died an early death?

So a couple years back, Bionicle's sales started slipping. It had been going for nearly a decade, it had a good run, but it was losing popularity (fun fact: the members of fansites and clubs, IE most of you guys, only make up a small portion of the overall consumer base!) and making less money for Lego. It was being overtaken in sales by System lines and licensed themes. The storyline at this point had become so muddy and confused (not to mention completely reliant on past knowledge, which makes it -very- hard for a new fan to get into) and the sets weren’t selling well, so the only logical thing was to stop it. Bionicle had run its course.

And Bionicle had an ending. It finished. If they had canceled it totally out of the blue without wrapping up anything in the storyline, I could totally understand you guys’ utter nerd-rage. But the story had an end, and heck; they even gave us a final series of sets (the Stars) as a tribute to some of the line’s most endearing characters! Even the sets had an actual conclusion!

In closing, Lego isn’t your best friend who does whatever you want, they’re a company. And a company does what’s best for business, not for a minority group of buyers like yourselves.

 
from "Bionicle's Current Status: A Doctor's Opinion":
 

"McCoy?"
"It's dead, Jim."

 
thank you and goodnight.


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I have to argue with Power Miners and Mars Mission as examples of themes that died an early death. Power Miners was intended to be a one-year theme that got extended due to high initial sales. I don't know much about Mars Mission's sales, but generally themes aren't continued for more than a year unless they do well.

 

A better example of a theme that died an early death would be Exo-Force, which ended unexpectedly and before the story could be drawn to a close. Or Galidor, which ended on a cliff-hanger that went unresolved due to abysmal sales.

 

Of course, many themes could be argued to have lasted longer than planned, simply due to the fact that Lego plans its themes to be able to end one year in by default; it's only the successful ones that keep going, and that's when the big multi-year plans start to be fleshed out. Even Bionicle had this sort of escape hatch: if its first year had been unsuccessful, Christian Faber has explained that Makuta's defeat that year would have caused the Great Spirit Robot to have awoken a full seven years earlier than it actually did.

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Scanty Demon
Jun 04 2013 09:59 PM
For the question: I have to bring out my famous "SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP" time and time again.

Forgive my ignorance but didn't most of the Bring Back Bionicle feelings subside with like only three people still believing it had a hope of coming back? Has it come up again? If you want feel free to use my "shut up" gif for further discussion on the matter.
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For the question: I have to bring out my famous "SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP" time and time again.

Forgive my ignorance but didn't most of the Bring Back Bionicle feelings subside with like only three people still believing it had a hope of coming back? Has it come up again? If you want feel free to use my "shut up" gif for further discussion on the matter.

Apparently some of the BBB projects on Cuusoo have like, 100 votes, so I guess there's like 100 people that want it back? Which statistically might as well be 3.

 

Shut up is still probably the correct response to that hullabaloo tho.

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there's been some "Lego killed Bionicle/Lego owes us/we're waiting for Bionicle's return" hullabaloo going on, particularly in the wake of the sites being taken down

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Bionicles

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The Lonesome Wanderer
Jun 05 2013 06:58 PM

Bioniclez

Fixed that for ya ;)

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Aanchir: Rachira of Time
Jun 06 2013 09:14 AM


For the question: I have to bring out my famous "SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP" time and time again.

Forgive my ignorance but didn't most of the Bring Back Bionicle feelings subside with like only three people still believing it had a hope of coming back? Has it come up again? If you want feel free to use my "shut up" gif for further discussion on the matter.

Apparently some of the BBB projects on Cuusoo have like, 100 votes, so I guess there's like 100 people that want it back? Which statistically might as well be 3.
 
Shut up is still probably the correct response to that hullabaloo tho.


For the record, I think that even among Cuusoo users, there are far more people want BIONICLE back than have supported those BIONICLE projects. The issue is that a lot of those people can't agree what it is exactly that they want. What was it that made BIONICLE so great? Do we want new versions of familiar characters we have grown to love, or minor characters who we've never gotten to add to our collections? Do we want to wrap up the story or start it back up again for the long term? It all varies depending on who you ask.

Personally, I find a lot of the Bring Back BIONICLE projects I've seen are really bad for one reason or another: unimpressive MOCs and stories, characters I have no reason to become emotionally attached to, parts and building styles that are obsolete or simply structurally unsound, etc. I used LDD to put together my own concept for a BIONICLE Cuusoo proposal, meant more as a tribute to BIONICLE than as a proper continuation. But I never ended up proposing it to Cuusoo because I realized most people who want BIONICLE back in any form would hate it for the same reason they hated the BIONICLE Stars. What was intended as a loving tribute would instead be seen as a shallow imitation.

Overall, I wonder if it would even be possible to bring back BIONICLE without alienating many of the people who want it back... not that it matters from TLG's perspective, because the people who would really determine if a BIONICLE reboot succeeds or fails are mostly people who never experienced BIONICLE when it was alive.
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