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Rule 1 on BZP: If it exists, there will be drama about it eventually

I don't think the 'controversy' is as insignificant. The main concern is that many of us (and I include myself), are certainly sticklers for correct grammar.

 

However, in our assumptions of correct grammar, it is assumed that those who speak to us have the same education and abilities as us. We neglect to think that maybe they didn't have that good of schooling, or read as many books as we did, or can't process words and letters like we do.

 

So it's not so much a controversy, as a chance to see another side we don't often consider, and an opportunity to expand our view on the world and realize that we still have some privilege we must remember, and lessons still to be learned.

I don't even know what caused all this. I think it's an interesting debate and all (as someone raised among grammarians but also someone who's acutely aware of the difficulties spelling and grammar can pose for those with learning disabilities). But as to why people started talking about it in the first place, I have no clue.

I don't even know what caused all this. I think it's an interesting debate and all (as someone raised among grammarians but also someone who's acutely aware of the difficulties spelling and grammar can pose for those with learning disabilities). But as to why people started talking about it in the first place, I have no clue.

Someone corrected someone else and then it led to an exchange of opinions on that occurrence that spread out into the length of topics from there. I don't really see any controversy going on. It'd be a controversy if someone corrected someone else and then got banned for it

You should see the argument about protodermis.

 

This? Pshaw.

Rule 1 on BZP: If it exists, there has been drama about it already and probably will be again

 

FTFY

 

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to be fair i haven't seen many people at others' throats? i've seen some people point out usage of terms like "ignorant" and "lazy" and "spiteful" and "Grammar Nazi" make them feel uncomfortable/personally insulted due to the manner in which the original person chose to convey their thoughts, and have seen many people defending "improper" writing on the basis that it's easier and comes to them more quickly and provides a more casual tone they want to convey (or that people who use improper writing may have difficulties in some manner, or not have English as a first language and not be aware of the thousands of grammatical rules, etc...)

 

i haven't seen anyone going on a crusade about how anyone who uses proper grammar sucks, or vice-versa (unless i missed something?) but i have seen discussion on it and some people pointing out terms that one would better do without when trying to make a claim

 

in the end i mostly see "it's not invalid to use improper writing" and "it's kind of a jerk move to call out people on their grammar/spelling and think less of them" unless like, i missed something, somewhere?

^Edit: Maybe I'm just reading them weird, the tone seems much more angry and defensive than that to me.

 

I don't think the 'controversy' is as insignificant. The main concern is that many of us (and I include myself), are certainly sticklers for correct grammar.

 

However, in our assumptions of correct grammar, it is assumed that those who speak to us have the same education and abilities as us. We neglect to think that maybe they didn't have that good of schooling, or read as many books as we did, or can't process words and letters like we do.

 

So it's not so much a controversy, as a chance to see another side we don't often consider, and an opportunity to expand our view on the world and realize that we still have some privilege we must remember, and lessons still to be learned.

 

Except with the vast majority of entries on the subject that I've seen where people defend "improper" grammar, it's not "This is how I was taught to speak, this is what I understand", it's "I do this because it's convenient and easier". Which is completely fine, but it's not something this big.

but how is that cutthroat... ?

I wouldn't say cutthroat, more of passive aggressive. I was paraphrasing, the actual messages, at least to me, seem much more defensive and sound much more like they're looking for an argument.

i haven't seen much of that besides for people bluntly saying terms like "Grammar Nazi" and the aforementioned terms i highlighted weren't appropriate terms to use... which i agree with, either way

I feel like this is a thing on basically all Internet forums and isn't unique to BZP. I think I've seen people get nitpicky about grammar enough times that it doesn't phase me anymore.

 

I'm not gonna try and use perfect grammar everywhere on the Internet because I have to do that enough for essays/midterms and I'd like a break once in a while. Yes, I think when you're have a discussion or something being coherent is important but that does not always mean being grammatically correct.