Extra Participants in Group PMs for POBZPCs

Is someone trying to expand his perks?

No that idea is actually fine for me.

I don't really like this idea. I feel like it's unfair to Premier Members because then only POBZPCs get a perk for the same package we get while we stick with the same perks. Plus, I'm pretty sure you're suggesting this because you're a POBZPC?
 
-Rez

I'm willing to see what others think of this. If there's enough interest we might consider it. You're not off to a good start though.

Just a question, in wich situation are you planning to use a conversation with 15 people?

Currently, the limit of ten members does not include the conversation starter and its first recipient. As such, a group PM conversation that I'm currently in has twelve. Upping the limit to 15 means that 17 people can participate, and in all honesty, I don't see that as being practical.

^ That doesn't make sense. Are you sure it isn't a staff thing? I can only add 8 people to a vanilla conversation, aside from me and the other person.

We just got this perk, and you already want more out of it?

I don't really see it as necessary. I can't think of a situation where you'd really need even more people. Furthermore, why the POBZPC group beyond the possibility that you are one? What about people in the regular OBZPC group? Or just ask for an increase in general for all Premier Members? Perks just aren't really associated with the OBZPC group. It's just Premier Members that get the perks because they're paying for them. I don't see how to benefit from giving perks to an even smaller group.

Just a question, in wich situation are you planning to use a conversation with 15 people?

Chima Wiki staff conversation. Where we plan stuff. Typically stuff pertaining to the site that others don't need to see. We have a Skype group, but multiple staff don't have Skype and aren't able to get one for various reasons. I'm down to two slots left in the conversation, and we have 6 more staff that aren't in the discussion. :/
 
Also I changed it from POBZPCs to just any premier member

Edited by Meiko, Dec 30 2012 - 10:45 AM.

Are there 15 staff members in that Chima wiki?, that seems a bit much. 

Are there 15 staff members in that Chima wiki?, that seems a bit much. 

Yeah, there are a lot. Plus, there are the people like Bioran, Shadow Kurahk, and Tyler Durden that oversee the site that any major decisions or changes need to be passed through. It's a large staff team, mostly because The Ninjago Wiki had a lack of moderation besides myself and a few others, and it became very stressful on all of us. We're trying not to have that problem on TCW.

So make two group conversations and be the liaison between them. Seems to be too specific of a reason to need the increase still.

So make two group conversations and be the liaison between them. Seems to be too specific of a reason to need the increase still.

Which isn't any easier than communicating between the Skype chat and group PM. It takes a lot to have to communicate large plans like the ones we have in the Skype chat/conference calls to the group PM. We already have enough trouble communicating what goes on in conference calls to those in different time zones who miss out on them, and to have to communicate all of that in 3 places is quite excessive.

 

So make two group conversations and be the liaison between them. Seems to be too specific of a reason to need the increase still.

Which isn't any easier than communicating between the Skype chat and group PM. It takes a lot to have to communicate large plans like the ones we have in the Skype chat/conference calls to the group PM. We already have enough trouble communicating what goes on in conference calls to those in different time zones who miss out on them, and to have to communicate all of that in 3 places is quite excessive.

 

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This would be a valid reason if others required such a change. Others would need to require more PM slots for it to be taken up by the staff. The problem is, you seem to be the only person in need of this option.
 
-Rez

Maybe open a poll or such to reach more members to ask

So basically you want BZP to change to better help you organize things for another website?
Sounds like you need to find a better method of communication.

So basically you want BZP to change to better help you organize things for another website?
Sounds like you need to find a better method of communication.

No I didn't really. I only opened a suggestion in the tracker to see if anybody else shared the same idea on it, because that's what it's for. Obviously nobody else seems interested, so I'm just going to make sure the staff on TCW who are unable to get a Skype have an alternative.

Edited by Meiko, Dec 30 2012 - 06:03 PM.

Just to mention, though, it wouldn't be the first time that OBZPCs get perks. Like, you know, the name change perks. Might not be prevalent to the discussion right now, but I do want to point it out.

Obviously, no spambot is going to take the trouble to become an OBZPC, so I don't see what anyone here is exactly worried about. Is there a reason not to have multiple recipients? Granted not everyone may use it, but I can't see of a reason why not to just have the option to do so. I do remember the early days of the ICC where a system like that would have been great to have, and limiting it to 10-12 participants would have left some excluded.

Can't you just create a messaging function on the wiki, or create a private page that only staff members can view?

Can't you just create a messaging function on the wiki, or create a private page that only staff members can view?

Sure that's most likely possible, but it would require we hack/tweak the MediaWiki software, which we won't do for two reasons:

• If something goes wrong we'll most likely lose information
• Every time we update the MediaWiki software, we'd have to tweak it again, which we could very well have circumstance 1 occur each update.