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[Xanthorp]

So I have some mask ideas:

 

Kanohi Zetax, the Mask of Mental Return

Allows the user to "return," so-to-speak, to a past version of their mind. The effect of the use of this mask is permanent. The user forgets everything from the "return-point" on. Basic knowledge of the five w's are still retained. Some beings could use this to carve out a new life for themselves.

An example of use would be a toa (Canon example Lesovikk) who is very traumatized by event X. If they had this mask, they could "erase" all memories form that moment on.

 

Kanohi Eupho (Ay-foe), the Mask of Emotional Override

Allows the user to "implant" their emotions into another being or beings ("Victim(s)"). The mask is always on at a low level. Ex: a very angry makuta could make a toa feel nothing but wrath.

 

Kanohi Borili, the Mask of Shapeshifting

Allows the user to temporarily completely shapeshift into any living being, object, or thing (toa, rock, vahki, respectively), given that they're on the planet at the time of shapeshifting. The kanohi also allows the user to temporarily gain access of the "victim's" powers and element, overriding the user's powers and element. The kanohi also changes shape to match the being's mask, but it doesn't change power. Basically, if the being exists on the planet at the time of use, it can be shapeshifted into.

Restrictions:

-Requires focus

-Mass of "victim" cannot exceed 1.5 times that of user

-The victim cannot be the only one of its kind or the last of its species

-Size alteration and reconstitution/mutation of existing beings is inhibited by the mask

-The mask takes about a day to "recharge" the life energy used to shapeshift and/or change size.

--Shapeshifting back does not take life energy and can therefore be done in the same day

 

I don't know. I tried to not make the mask too overpowered. Also, can there theoretically be a failsafe in the mask that prevents conjunction with an Inakko and a Kenalgi?

[Geardirector]

I think Ghost needs some clarification. It says semi-tangible energy structures, does that mean that it lets you touch others with them, but they can't touch them back?

[bonesiii]

Sorry I've fallen so ridiculously far behind with this topic. Thankfully it's just in time spent rather than amount to say.

 

Note: Main reason I've been delaying work on EM is that canon-fit retelling of Bionicle history I'm working on. Once that's complete I hope to write the Season 1 finale for the EM, and get the Shards polls up and suchnot.

 

So I have some mask ideas:

 

Kanohi Zetax, the Mask of Mental Return

Allows the user to "return," so-to-speak, to a past version of their mind. The effect of the use of this mask is permanent. The user forgets everything from the "return-point" on. Basic knowledge of the five w's are still retained. Some beings could use this to carve out a new life for themselves.

An example of use would be a toa (Canon example Lesovikk) who is very traumatized by event X. If they had this mask, they could "erase" all memories form that moment on.

 

Kanohi Eupho (Ay-foe), the Mask of Emotional Override

Allows the user to "implant" their emotions into another being or beings ("Victim(s)"). The mask is always on at a low level. Ex: a very angry makuta could make a toa feel nothing but wrath.

 

Kanohi Borili, the Mask of Shapeshifting

Allows the user to temporarily completely shapeshift into any living being, object, or thing (toa, rock, vahki, respectively), given that they're on the planet at the time of shapeshifting. The kanohi also allows the user to temporarily gain access of the "victim's" powers and element, overriding the user's powers and element. The kanohi also changes shape to match the being's mask, but it doesn't change power. Basically, if the being exists on the planet at the time of use, it can be shapeshifted into.

Restrictions:

-Requires focus

-Mass of "victim" cannot exceed 1.5 times that of user

-The victim cannot be the only one of its kind or the last of its species

-Size alteration and reconstitution/mutation of existing beings is inhibited by the mask

-The mask takes about a day to "recharge" the life energy used to shapeshift and/or change size.

--Shapeshifting back does not take life energy and can therefore be done in the same day

 

I don't know. I tried to not make the mask too overpowered. Also, can there theoretically be a failsafe in the mask that prevents conjunction with an Inakko and a Kenalgi?

Mental Return -- This power is a nice idea, but why would it be a mask? I have trouble imagining that many people would want to wear that power on their faces normally. Maybe we should have a section for fan-submitted tool/artifact powers?

 

Emotional Override -- Firstly, that's an odd pronunciation for that spelling. Looks like Yoofo (Europe in SAE is pronounced Yurupp). But that's irrelevant to the power. My first thought is it may be too similar to the Mask of Emotion I already submitted from my Paracosmos masks. However, I can see a case made for it being separate due to the specific limitations. If you're still around (sorry again for delay *winces*) I'll let you decide if you still want it as a separate mask (say so if so, and I'll add it).

 

Shapeshifting -- this seems reasonable, but suggest a different name, since it involves taking on their powers too. Something like replacing, doppleganger... eh.

 

I think Ghost needs some clarification. It says semi-tangible energy structures, does that mean that it lets you touch others with them, but they can't touch them back?

It means partially tangible, kind of like a gel. It's not about a split effect as you describe, but rather simply behaving like a solid, but one that is somewhat intangible. Meaning if you push hard enough you could probably go through it. A Toa of Ghost could control a range of this from almost totally intangible to almost totally solid.

 

If you wanted to create a split-effect, you'd have to dial back the tangibility when a target tried to touch the ghost material back, as I see it, off the top of my head. But I wouldn't rule out such an automatic split effect if you want to use it that way, it's just not what I had in mind.

Edited by bonesiii, Jun 02 2013 - 03:55 PM.

[Geardirector]

I just had this idea for a character with that power, though the way you describe it also sounds fairly viable, I'll have to see where it goes

 

Either way, rest assured I'll be writing some EM fics in the near future.

 

Say, you may want to fix the Cipher Chronicles links in the reference topic, they're broken, and I was looking forward to reading it.

[bonesiii]

The links are broken because BZPower's archived old forums are down. I have no control over that unfortunately. You could try googling the titles to see if there's cache versions of them.

I was thinking recently too that if the archives don't come up soon I may request permission to repost all episodes on the new forum. Not sure how easy that'll be; some edits might not be gettable and the like, but anywho, it's one route we might go.

[Geardirector]

Googling yielded approximately silch trace of the CC, that's a tad disconcerting, I guess that leaves us with only one option.

 

Here's another question: The guide states that Agent attacks are somewhat common, though never explained. What exactly is the nature of these attacks, like, what would typically happen?

[Taipu1]

The most random one seen in the Cipher Chronicles (Whilst doing my best not to spoil them for you) involved an Agent arriving, thwarting all defense with minimum damage, only to steal an item of supposedly no value whatsoever.  Basically the motives aren't always very clear, but the intention is never to kill anyone. 

 

Glad to see this topic is back up top, I was beginning to worry the EM was done. 

Edited by Taipu1, Jun 02 2013 - 05:01 PM.

[The First Speaker]

Any news on the Shards polls?

[bonesiii]

I've made some progress on them recently. Almost done with checking all the new entries against the old (since there were three opportunities to post, two to repost, due to various issues, I have to make sure just the most up-to-date versions are in polls if they were reposted, which means checking each one manually).

 

The most random one seen in the Cipher Chronicles (Whilst doing my best not to spoil them for you) involved an Agent arriving, thwarting all defense with minimum damage, only to steal an item of supposedly no value whatsoever.  Basically the motives aren't always very clear, but the intention is never to kill anyone. 

 

Glad to see this topic is back up top, I was beginning to worry the EM was done. 

And FTR, that was in the first episode. I was gonna answer that reading that episode is probably the best way to learn the answer to that.

[Geardirector]

So, I'm working on putting together a general outline and "story bible" for an EM epic I'll hopefully be writing soon, but I'll need clarification on a few things that have escaped my notice browsing the reference topic.

 

1. How is cargo transported to the cargo stars, is it a teleportation system or some sort of remote-controlled vehicles?

 

2. How would a Makuta typically gain access to Energized Protodermis?

 

3. Is Wiki Nui a full-blown tech city or is there a significant wildlife and plantlife presence?

[bonesiii]

So, I'm working on putting together a general outline and "story bible" for an EM epic I'll hopefully be writing soon, but I'll need clarification on a few things that have escaped my notice browsing the reference topic.

 

1. How is cargo transported to the cargo stars, is it a teleportation system or some sort of remote-controlled vehicles?

 

2. How would a Makuta typically gain access to Energized Protodermis?

 

3. Is Wiki Nui a full-blown tech city or is there a significant wildlife and plantlife presence?

1) Robotic spaceship.

 

2) I'm a little foggy on this but I know we said the Wiki-Nui Museum has EP stored in some (locked) rooms. So a Makuta who was good (it can happen in the EM ) could possibly get some kind of contract with them. What I forget is if we ever said that was the ONLY known EP on the main planets or not.

 

Probably not because we generally like to avoid painting into corners here. But I think whatever the answer is, was stated in the Wiki-Nui part of the 100-page guide.

 

3) The latter. A skyscraper shown in Sticks and Stones for example was hollow in the middle with a garden at the base, and signicant potted plants. And outside the buildings there's sprawling forests dominated by the Blue Spring flower trees.

[LewaLew]

I don't suppose there's another Cipher Chronicles episode on the way soon?

 

 

Anyhow, I have a suggestion for a mask. Actually, it already sort of exists.

 

Kanohi WhateveritiswecalleditbackwhentherewasaBRC, the Mask of Reference

 

A mask that was given by the government of BZ-Koro to the former Reference Keepers. It was required to change anything within the Reference Center, and has the power to record knowledge within it that can be accessed by the wearer at any time. Now that the Reference Team has been disbanded, the former members still have their Masks of Reference, but can't use them to change the Reference Center's information, which has been placed in the BZ-Koro archived forum records.

Edited by LewaLew, Jun 06 2013 - 09:43 PM.

[bonesiii]

First I'm trying to finish that canon-fit history retelling (The Destiny of Bionicle), then I hope to get to the CC Season 1 finale (well, after Shards polls).

 

And I very much like the idea of using the Mask of Reference! (How did I not think of this? ) I can approve that, although a re-wording to say the general power definition first and then get to the Reference Keeper part would be better methinks. At first I thought you were defining an RK-only mask with the arrangement as-is (but that'd be a very minor change, so consider it approved; remind me to add it if I don't within a few weeks or so; out of time now).

[LewaLew]

Yeah, I was feeling nostalgic for the old RK days, and thought of that. Basically, it's BS01... BUT ON YOUR FACE!

 

Which makes it more like Google Glass.

[tomdroidser]

Thought of a strange new mask with a strange backstory:

 

Mask of Alternate Minds

 

Created from the essence of the void that exists between all known universes, this mask allows the user to, if not used wisely, permanatly swap minds with an alternate counterpart. This power cannot allow the user to swap minds with an alternate self in the same universe and is rendered useless if the wearer is a multiversal singularity (if there is any).

 

I'll give an example in its use if asked in a later post.

 

-Tomdroidser

[Taipu1]

Thought of a strange new mask with a strange backstory:

 

Mask of Alternate Minds

 

Created from the essence of the void that exists between all known universes, this mask allows the user to, if not used wisely, permanatly swap minds with an alternate counterpart. This power cannot allow the user to swap minds with an alternate self in the same universe and is rendered useless if the wearer is a multiversal singularity (if there is any).

 

I'll give an example in its use if asked in a later post.

 

-Tomdroidser

 

What if their alternate universe counterpart cottoned on to what happened, and used the mask to switch back immediately?  Or is who they swap with random?

[Chro]

Taips, I think he just said that it wouldn't work on an alternate version of the same being, so that wouldn't be an issue, really.

[Taipu1]

Taips, I think he just said that it wouldn't work on an alternate version of the same being, so that wouldn't be an issue, really.

 

No, I think he meant alternate versions in the same universe.  Like Takanuva couldn't swap his mind with any of the Shadow Takanuvas that Tridax brought to the MU.  Otherwise who would they be swapping their mind with?

[bonesiii]

Thought of a strange new mask with a strange backstory:

 

Mask of Alternate Minds

 

Created from the essence of the void that exists between all known universes, this mask allows the user to, if not used wisely, permanatly swap minds with an alternate counterpart. This power cannot allow the user to swap minds with an alternate self in the same universe and is rendered useless if the wearer is a multiversal singularity (if there is any).

 

I'll give an example in its use if asked in a later post.

 

-Tomdroidser

I do have several major issues with this.

 

First of all, I would shy away from one-time use masks to populate the fan-suggested masks list in the first place. It's not what we had in mind for that list. Granted that canonically there is a one-use mask, the Mask of Elemental Energy, but I tend to reinterpret that in my stories as multi-use like any other mask for the same reason. The word permanent in there is an issue.

 

You do imply that it's only permanent if not used wisely, but what would a wise use be? Perhaps the main problem is I'm just not understanding this right.

 

Also, I assume that by singularity you mean a person with no alternate counterpart at all (rather than a black hole ). I can confirm there's no such thing, so no real need to include that.

 

Another issue is that the void that exists between universes and leaping between other dimensions is about the closest you can get to "sacred" in the Multiverse, since one of the biggest story mysteries is how the Olmak in that void is related to the origins of the Multiverse itself, and it's difficult just to watch an alternate self (as Kyn did with a very expensive machine). If there was such a mask as this I think it would cheapen these things. Especially to say that it is created from the essence of the void. That would imply it's the only mask, for one, so isn't of much use on a "feel free to use for other characters" list, and also kinda implies this would be nearly as valuable as the fragments of the original Olmak itself. That's a bit much.

 

I would be okay with you using this in a story anyways as a local top-secret thing that doesn't affect wider story, but I'm having trouble seeing it as good for the list.

 

However, a modification to make the swap temporary, make it not a lone mask, and not mentioning anything about the void, etc. might work out.

[tomdroidser]

Revised from my original idea:

 

Mask of Alternate Minds

 

A reletively unusual mask, this mask allows the user to, if not used wisely, temperarily swap minds with an alternate counterpart. This power cannot allow the user to swap minds with an alternate self in the same universe and is rendered useless if the wearer is a multiversal singularity (if there is any). The mask's effect wears off anywhere between one day to one week.

 

And something very different:

 

Mask of Self-Restriction

 

The mask limits or "drains" the strength, power, and energy of its wearer when it's considered "inactive." When the mask is "active," the wearer loses the "limiters" and is unrestricted. Restrictions are set by the wearer once the wearer starts wearing the mask. Commonly worn by beings considered "abnormal" or "overpowered."

 

-Tomdroidser