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[~Takava Nirhii~]

I want to get into Random Matchup, but just trying to wade into it is extremely frustrating.

When I'm trying to construct a team, I can never get it right. It just seems too easy for everyone else, but for me, I can't get the right moveset, can't get the right combination of Pokemon, the team has too big of a weakness to a type, trying to find the right items without breaking item clause, all that is just irritating. How the heck do you construct a good team?

I want to try and wade my feet in and EV train an easy Pokemon, but trying to decide which one to train is another matter. You have to figure out which moveset you want to use for that one, and there's never just one good one, there's around 4, each with moves that you have to make a choice on, which is impossible if you know little about competitive battling. Also, you can forget altogether about EV training if you don't have power items, which you have to win from the Battle Subway, and I always lose there if I don't have EV trained Pokemon, because my in-game team is nerfed to the strength of unevolved Pokemon over there, and they're slow as heck. They also all share a weakness no matter which way I arrange them.

Halp?

[The Captain]

I want to get into Random Matchup, but just trying to wade into it is extremely frustrating.

When I'm trying to construct a team, I can never get it right. It just seems too easy for everyone else, but for me, I can't get the right moveset, can't get the right combination of Pokemon, the team has too big of a weakness to a type, trying to find the right items without breaking item clause, all that is just irritating. How the heck do you construct a good team?

I want to try and wade my feet in and EV train an easy Pokemon, but trying to decide which one to train is another matter. You have to figure out which moveset you want to use for that one, and there's never just one good one, there's around 4, each with moves that you have to make a choice on, which is impossible if you know little about competitive battling. Also, you can forget altogether about EV training if you don't have power items, which you have to win from the Battle Subway, and I always lose there if I don't have EV trained Pokemon, because my in-game team is nerfed to the strength of unevolved Pokemon over there, and they're slow as heck. They also all share a weakness no matter which way I arrange them.

Halp?

I spend most of my time on Random Matchup, and I do pretty well considering the low-lifes one stumbles upon there ( ), but if you can create a team that can combat a solid Trick Room team and a Drizzle + Swift Swim team, you should be fine. Those are the most common teams that wipe the floor with regulars. Note, I only play Doubles and Triples, so if you're playing Singles I can't help you. I find Hitmontop with Technician, Fake Out, Mach Punch, and Sucker Punch is always a safe lead.

I seem to have general success with my current RM Doubles/Triples team. I've been using:

Shiny Event Raikou @ Rash @ Brightpowder (has saved his life on numerous occasion)
-Thunder
-Aura Sphere
-Extreme Speed (for revenge killing)
-Weather Ball

Tornadus @ Mild @ Flying Gem
- Dark Pulse
- Hurricane
- Rain Dance (gives Raikou a 100 Power Water attack and makes Thunder reliable)
- Tailwind

Moxie Scrafty @ Adamant @ Leftovers
- Dragon Dance
- Fake Out
- Drain Punch
- Crunch

Machamp @ Naughty @ Choice Scarf
- DynamicPunch
- Stone Edge
- Thunderpunch
- Fire Blast (completely surprises walls like Skarmory and the like, and 100% accuracy is a boon)

Reuniclus @ Bold @ Flame Orb
- Psychic
- Trick (rather than use R. offensively, I generally just latch FO onto anything physically scary; pluss, if I don't use it, I don't have to worry about Sleep or Paralysis)
- Pain Split (recovery and damage, rather than Focus Blast - is rarely used but generally is a life saver in a pinch)
- Trick Room (I use this to actually reverse other teams Trick Room sets - my R. is so slow that it outspends most other teams and completely wrecks their set up, as my whole team beyond Scrafty is speed-based)

Shiny Serperior @ Timid @ Big Root
- Toxic
- Calm Mind
- Giga Drain (with Big Root, this gives twice as much health and is extremely helpful, stall wise)
- Leech Seed (again, with Big Root, this thing has crazy recovery and makes Serperior extremely bulky, especially in doubles and triples)

I've been using this team for almost a year now and it's pretty gold. Just try to pick things that either are benefited by Trick Room or Rain Dance teams, or pick things that neutralize weather threats and TR. My R. completely ruins other TR sets and Raikou is immediately boosted by other teams' Drizzle, and Tornadus's priority Rain Dance eliminates Sandstorm, Sunshine, and Hail teams.

ALSO, there is currently a free American Victini Mystery Gift event giving out a V-Create, Fusion Bolt/Flare, Searing Shot Lv. 50 Victini. Worth grabbing.

Anyone know of any independent distributions going on or have they been over for a while?

Edited by The Captain, Dec 12 2011 - 03:14 PM.

[Ra's al Ghul]

few notes,

reuniclus has access to recover. pain split isn't as reliable. i'd sub it out.

psychic by itself has terrible coverage and loves being walled, seeing as how common dark types are in standard. running only one attack on reuniclus is a terrible idea, but if you're dead set on it, don't run stab. shadow ball/focus blast have perfect neutral coverage.

serperior is completely walled by venusaur or ferrothorn.

machamp is generally inferior to conkeldurr, and a scarf set isn't as viable on machamp without speed EVs. judging by your post, none of your pokes have EVs or you don't know what they are. bulk up machamp (or conk) might do you some favours.

scrafty wants shed skin if it has leftovers. if not, life orb will be more beneficial to you, as moxie scrafty has little staying power.

tornadus could probably do with a better item, since flying gem is more ideal for acrobatics sets. damp rock, or even life orb or leftovers may serve you better.

i, of course, am the guy who can only play doubles using terrakion and beat up ambipom.

[The Captain]

few notes,

reuniclus has access to recover. pain split isn't as reliable. i'd sub it out.

psychic by itself has terrible coverage and loves being walled, seeing as how common dark types are in standard. running only one attack on reuniclus is a terrible idea, but if you're dead set on it, don't run stab. shadow ball/focus blast have perfect neutral coverage.

serperior is completely walled by venusaur or ferrothorn.

machamp is generally inferior to conkeldurr, and a scarf set isn't as viable on machamp without speed EVs. judging by your post, none of your pokes have EVs or you don't know what they are. bulk up machamp (or conk) might do you some favours.

scrafty wants shed skin if it has leftovers. if not, life orb will be more beneficial to you, as moxie scrafty has little staying power.

tornadus could probably do with a better item, since flying gem is more ideal for acrobatics sets. damp rock, or even life orb or leftovers may serve you better.

i, of course, am the guy who can only play doubles using terrakion and beat up ambipom.

A. I know what EVs are and all of my competitive Pokemon are EV-trained.
B. R. isn't there offensively - it's there to distract and reverse Trick Room sets, that's all. I try to work with non-traditional sets.
C. Machamp has 100% accuracy, something Conkeldurr lacks and its Fire Blast takes care of the Ferrothorn that would usually block Serperior
D. My Scrafty does just fine, thank you. It's mostly there to allow Raikou and Tornadus do most of the work while Fake Out takes effect.

[Erebus]

Looks like the new Pokemon game shown at Jump Festa is a crossover game between Pokemon and Nobunaga's Ambition. It will be a turn-based strategy-RPG game set in what looks like feudal Japan. So far, only on DS (not 3DS).

You should find in-game pictures on various sites by now.

This of course is not what I expected.

Edited by Erebus, Dec 17 2011 - 01:41 AM.

[Bundalings]

the heck

Whyyyyy GameFreak? Whyyyy

[BZP Blade]

I've gotta say, I did not expect that at all. 0_o I'm kinda hoping this isn't the thing they're going to reveal, but it sounds like it might be interesting... RTS isn't exactly a genre Pokemon's done before, so it might be fun. Especially since I've been playing Fire Emblem recently. =P

[GSR]

'Twas fun to watch the fallout from the announcement. Definitely unexpected, but it could be cool. Looks very FFTA to me at the moment.

[~Takava Nirhii~]

I was fighting Sabrina, and apparently my lv. 5 Mew, with Whirlpool, Waterfall, Flash, and Cut, can defeat a lv. 53 Wobbuffet. O_o

Awesome.

Of course, I made it PP stall so the Wobbuffet could Struggle and kill both itself and Mew, so he wouldn't get any unwanted EVs.

Still awesome.

[Loner]

Well, I got stuck with a Mild Latios on SoulSilver, but on the other hand all of its IV's are at least 20. Should I train it?

Edited by Lone Defender, Dec 29 2011 - 12:44 PM.

[~Takava Nirhii~]

@Lone Defender: All the competitive sets I've seen have him with Timid, mostly to outspeed the musketeers, Infernape, and speed tie with Lati@s and Gengar. If that's not a problem for you, I'd keep him, especially if its Sp. Atk and Speed IVs are 31 like you said earlier (bwa ha ha).

[Loner]

@Lone Defender: All the competitive sets I've seen have him with Timid, mostly to outspeed the musketeers, Infernape, and speed tie with Lati@s and Gengar. If that's not a problem for you, I'd keep him, especially if its Sp. Atk and Speed IVs are 31 like you said earlier (bwa ha ha).

I corrected that because I imputed the stats wrong...however, the Sp. Atk and Speed do sit at a healthy 25 and 23 respectively.

In other news, I'm honestly suprised at how many people I've seen using Victini. Yes, I'm aware that M14 Victini got released (using one myself). Choice Banded V-Create HURTS (actually, V-Create just hurts period).

[Ra's al Ghul]

victini = only reason sun was banned from UU

fact. fact.

[Vox The Shadow of Reality]

hey i wll admit that i'm not a die heart pokemon fan i only enjoy the games because there is something addicting about the games i really don't like any other form of pokemon but the games. I will admit i can not wait for febuary when the is suppose to be a mystery gift over wifi that will release arceus. i have never owned that pokemon before so it will be nice to have.
Here is a list of the pokemon games i own

• pokemon emerald
• pokemon diamond
• pokemon platinum (i love giratina)
• pokemon heartgold
• pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of time
• pokemon collisuem 1 and 2
• and pokemon white

I will admit my all time favorite pokemon is giratina. i currently have two giratinas one in diamond and one in platinum. I have both of them named death because i kinda of see giratina as the grim reaper of pokemon and the grim reaper was originally just named death. I have only had one pokemon i have ever gotten to level 100 hundred and that is my darling Karzahni a male typhlosion and let me tell you i can beat the whole elite four with just him and a decent amount of leppa berries and i can take out any elite four pokemon with one eruption attack. so that is what i use the entire elite four
I don't want to sound like i'm braggin but i would like to put his info here
nature bashful
highly curoius happily eats anything
hp 294
attack 221
defense 200
sp. atk 263
sp.def 188
speed 234
attacks eruption pp 8 and earthquake pp 16 those are his permanent attacks the other two i change out depending on the situation.

I must say that i do use the glitch in pokemon emerald to clone the legendaries in that game so i can have a copy of all three and the regis in all my pokemon games. i do not copy the master balls or the rare candies because at that point i would consider that cheating.
I must put something out i'm looking for a person who has a pokemon black version and has a pokemon that knows the move charge. if anyone is willing to trade please send me a PM and i we can set up a trade.
My friend code is 3138 9222 8342 and my name is VOXUMO on the game and it is a pokemon white version
so yeah that is about it.

[The Captain]

@Lone Defender: All the competitive sets I've seen have him with Timid, mostly to outspeed the musketeers, Infernape, and speed tie with Lati@s and Gengar. If that's not a problem for you, I'd keep him, especially if its Sp. Atk and Speed IVs are 31 like you said earlier (bwa ha ha).

I corrected that because I imputed the stats wrong...however, the Sp. Atk and Speed do sit at a healthy 25 and 23 respectively.

In other news, I'm honestly suprised at how many people I've seen using Victini. Yes, I'm aware that M14 Victini got released (using one myself). Choice Banded V-Create HURTS (actually, V-Create just hurts period).

I'm training up a Choice Band V-Create Victini right now. Throw it into doubles with a Tailwind Tornadus and you have an instant sweep.

[Loner]

Hey does anyone happen to have any Dream World Pokes that they'd be willing to part with (mainly Carvahna or Sharpedo)? I can offer several things in return:

Adamant Kabuto with Perfect HP, Attack, and Speed IV's
Shiny Adamant Riolu with Ice Punch
Shiny Totodile (Hasty)
A ton of Morning Sun Larvesta's (from the distro last year. Captain, I believe I still owe you one)

[The Captain]

Hey does anyone happen to have any Dream World Pokes that they'd be willing to part with (mainly Carvahna or Sharpedo)? I can offer several things in return:

Adamant Kabuto with Perfect HP, Attack, and Speed IV's
Shiny Adamant Riolu with Ice Punch
Shiny Totodile (Hasty)
A ton of Morning Sun Larvesta's (from the distro last year. Captain, I believe I still owe you one)

PM me. I actually just finished breeding some DW Pokemon and have some spares.

[Vox The Shadow of Reality]

Hey does anyone happen to have any Dream World Pokes that they'd be willing to part with (mainly Carvahna or Sharpedo)? I can offer several things in return:

Adamant Kabuto with Perfect HP, Attack, and Speed IV's
Shiny Adamant Riolu with Ice Punch
Shiny Totodile (Hasty)
A ton of Morning Sun Larvesta's (from the distro last year. Captain, I believe I still owe you one)

I have some spare dream world pokemon pm me

[Vox The Shadow of Reality]

hey i recently looked up all my dream world pokemon and i have made the list now
and here is the way they are organized
name gender level nature ability. also any pokemon whose name looks like this name/name means they have evolved so for example
drowzee/hypno i had captured him in dream world as a drowzee but i evolved him into a hypno. so yeah. if any one is interested in trading for any of these pokemon please send me a PM and we can negotiate it. so yeah thanks/


lickitung f lv 10 docile cloud nine
trapinch f lv 10 relaxed sheer force
shuppet m lv 10 sassy cursed body
larvittar f lv 10 impish sand veil
mareep m lv 24 sassy plus
togekiss m lv 10 naughty super luck
stunky f lv 22 relaxed keen eye
drowzee/hypno m lv 26 modest inner focus
mr.mime m lv 10 modest technician
torkoal m lv 10 quiet shell armor
houndour f lv 10 quirky unnerve
taillow m lv 10 calm s######
kangaskhan f lv 10 jolly inner focus
bellsprout f lv 10 serious gluttony
duskull/dusclops m lv 37 sassy pressure
smoochum f lv 10 rash hydration
mamoswine m lv 34 jolly thick fat
banette f lv 37 bold cursed body
burmy m lv 10 docile overcoat
nidoran m lv 10 hardy hustle
bronzor lv 10 careful heavy metal
houndour m lv 10 impish unnerve
hoppip m lv 10 rash infiltrator
spinarak m lv 10 serious sniper
phanpy m lv 10 naive sand veil
yanma m lv 10 modest frisk
lotad/lombre m lv 20 rash own tempo
mawile m lv 10 naive sheer force
rattata/raticate m lv 23 jolly hustle
croagunk/toxicroak m lv 41 bashful poison touch
skorupi/drapion m lv 40 relaced keen eye
surskit/masquerain m lv 23 bashful unnerve
spoink m lv 24 lonely gluttony

[Element lord Of Milk.]

So yesterday while my dad was reformatting my computer, I decided to start playing Pokemon White again.

I forgot how much fun it is .


~ELM~

[~Takava Nirhii~]

You know that contest they had in Japan way back when where they voted on a version mascot to be given out? Well, apparently Rayquaza won.

And it comes with V-Create.

WHAT?

[BZP Blade]

Yeah, I saw that yesterday, and was gonna post something, but forgot to find the topic.

I'm amused. xD

[~Takava Nirhii~]

Any reason why Global Link's down? :I

[Ra's al Ghul]

You know that contest they had in Japan way back when where they voted on a version mascot to be given out? Well, apparently Rayquaza won.

And it comes with V-Create.

WHAT?

i'm excited and terrified

rayquaza just got a coverage move as strong as stab outrage.

overheat's a better move but still

[Vox The Shadow of Reality]

question what does it mean when someone says EV training?

[Ra's al Ghul]

pokemon can train their stats- this is called EV training.

to elaborate, when you KO a wild pokemon or even another trainers pokemon in game, your pokemon gets these nifty little toys called effort values for a particular stat- take for example machamp, who gives you 3 EVs for your attack stat. so for every machamp you defeat, any pokemon who was in the fight gets 3 attack EVs. you can get up to 255 EVs in any stat on any pokemon, and for every 4 EVs, your pokemons stat goes up by one. its why a garchomp can have either 359 attack with a neutral nature or 296 with the same nature.

[The Captain]

Has anyone else been unable to connect over WiFi for online trades outside of the GTS? I've tried a few times with several different people and it just simply will never connect.

[Vox The Shadow of Reality]

I want to get into Random Matchup, but just trying to wade into it is extremely frustrating.

When I'm trying to construct a team, I can never get it right. It just seems too easy for everyone else, but for me, I can't get the right moveset, can't get the right combination of Pokemon, the team has too big of a weakness to a type, trying to find the right items without breaking item clause, all that is just irritating. How the heck do you construct a good team?

I want to try and wade my feet in and EV train an easy Pokemon, but trying to decide which one to train is another matter. You have to figure out which moveset you want to use for that one, and there's never just one good one, there's around 4, each with moves that you have to make a choice on, which is impossible if you know little about competitive battling. Also, you can forget altogether about EV training if you don't have power items, which you have to win from the Battle Subway, and I always lose there if I don't have EV trained Pokemon, because my in-game team is nerfed to the strength of unevolved Pokemon over there, and they're slow as heck. They also all share a weakness no matter which way I arrange them.

Halp?

Hey takava i was wondering since you seem to be just starting on the global link and need help getting use to it. Well i'm also recently new to it and have only won one battle. So maybe we could train together? If your interested please PM me

Has anyone else been unable to connect over WiFi for online trades outside of the GTS? I've tried a few times with several different people and it just simply will never connect.

I'm assuming your also referring to when we could not trade over wifi room. Oh yeah i need to know when we our doing the rain check for trading ok.

[Emperor Sirius]

Here's something to talk about: Shiny pokemon I found a blue ditto once in my Fire red game but I had no idea why it was blue so I never caught it. Then my sister found a blue psyduck in platinum and caught it and now its part of my platinum team. Then I had a good friend trade me a shiny zorua. What shiny pokemon have any of you found.

Edited by Driken Toa of Shadows, Jan 31 2012 - 01:42 PM.

[Bundalings]

Only Basculin, unfortunately. I've traded for a lot, though.

[~Takava Nirhii~]

I have a Shiny Kricketot from Platinum, a Shiny Luvdisc from Black, and a Shiny Oshawott from Black from Masuda's method. I also have a Japanese Shiny Bellsprout that I got from the GTS in my Diamond. I would be willing to trade the Kricketot or Bellsprout for an event Regigigas. (HINT HINT )

Yeah, needing that Regigigas.

[Ballom]

I've found a few Shiny Pokemon between my various games. Shiny Zigzagoon from Sapphire, shiny Bibarel and Gastly from Pearl, shiny Hippowdon and Houndour from Diamond, shiny Geodude from HeartGold and SoulSilver, shiny Azelf from Platinum (really awesome, that one was). I've also traded for quite a few from people. I'm thinking I'm forgetting a Poke or two, so I may amend that list later.

Oh yeah, and the red Gyarados don't really count.

~B~

[Emperor Sirius]

I just traded for a shiny Mismagious and it's a fricking monster.

[Ra's al Ghul]

i love mismagius almost as much as i love gengar. and i do love my gengers.

[~Takava Nirhii~]

I tried my first attempt at RNG abuse today. I did it wrong, I'm sure of that, but I did manage to get an Axew that I thought was kinda good. Keep?

Axew, Jolly Nature, Mold Breaker
25-27/10-13/30/11-14/27-29/9-11

Pseudo-bulk?

Edited by ~Takava Nirhii~, Feb 02 2012 - 10:35 PM.

[King_Serperior]

@Takava, KEEP. Jolly would give axew (into haxorus if you're gonna use it out of little cup) a much needed speed boost, and Mold Breaker + Lum Berry/Choice Band can give you an awesome sweep to pick off stuff like Will-O-Wisp Weezing.

Now I'm not into heavy EV training or vitamins, but here is my super double train team. Comments and Criticism are welcome.

Serperior-Mild
Item:Meadow Plate/Big Root
Ability:Overgrow
Leaf Blade
Dragon Tail
Leech Seed
Giga Drain

Chandelure-Lax
Item:Choice Scarf
Ability:Flame Body
Flamethrower
Energy Ball
Shadow Ball
Hidden Power (Water)

Garchomp-Jolly
Item:Wide Lens
Ability: Sand Veil
Dragon Rush
Earthquake
Fire Blast
Stone Edge

These last two rotate on my team

Sigilyph-Rash
Item:Mind Plate, although this will change to Life Orb
Ability:Magic Guard
Psyshock
Ice Beam
Air Slash
Flash Cannon

Staraptor-Quirky
Item: Focus Sash
Ability: Intimidate
Brave Bird
Close Combat
U-turn
Steel Wing.

[Vox The Shadow of Reality]

i must ask what is RNG also i must say after i beat the game and i mean the second go around at the elite four. i some how gathered oodles of money and i have more than i need but i bought a whole lot of vitamins but really only to use to increase happiness. ( i hate pokemon that have to evolve happiness/friendship) even then i had money. i must say do the relic ruins by that ocean side town on the right side of unova and is the only place you use the dive HM. that was a useless hm to only use it once and it just an annoyance when teaching a move your like
oh i have to go to the guy who remembers nothing and the go to person who collects heartscales why we don't know but hey does and if you don't have heart scales then head over to lady who wants to see a certain pokemon move then you go to your pc find move switch pokemon into party head back show get hearts scale fly to heartscale collector give him scale he teaches move and you r like that was long and tedoius better be a good move. first pokemon you encounter move is useless and your pokemon faints and you want to throw pokeball on ground and go what the karzahni.
sadly i had that thing happen to me. oh and i know you can get heartscale from the survey wireless thing but it does not help much when the next person who has the game is 200 miles away. it's not worth it. imagine me saying that in a exaggerated way with a hiss liek voice better think of sidorak saying it. that should help

sorry went on a rant could not help it urge called twitch twitch. surprisingly i did not misspell anything wow.

[BZP Blade]

Agh wall of text.

If you just want to use the Dive HM to go into the ruins(Perhaps multiple times); why don't you just teach the move to something you won't ever be using? That's what HM slaves are for, after all. =P

[Vox The Shadow of Reality]

w

Agh wall of text.

If you just want to use the Dive HM to go into the ruins(Perhaps multiple times); why don't you just teach the move to something you won't ever be using? That's what HM slaves are for, after all. =P

well yeah i just thought it is a possibility and an actual event that happened to me
i actually have a crawdaunt in pokemon emerald that is my water hm slave

Edited by Shadow Reaper, Feb 03 2012 - 10:43 AM.

[BZP Blade]

Yeah, I understand, and the event is kinda a headscratcher(They should have a second set of four moves you could switch between outside of battle, would help even in more cases than just for HMs), but you can get a ton of Heart Scales anyway, and I'm sure I still have a ton left. =P