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[Element lord Of Milk.]

So yeah, discuss doctor who, the awesome british sci-fi/Time travel show.

Also: i think it's hilarious that almost an entire season passed by in the time BZP was down XD .


~ELM~

[voiced otter]

I have been watching for a few years. 2nd tennant season. I also have seen almost every Torchwood episode as well. But yea. Such an awesome show. Matt smith is also great. I haven't seen many epps before tennant though,

[Enzee]

I have got to say; this season has been really good.

Although other people seem to have a love it or hate it mentality.

Edited by Enzee, Oct 13 2011 - 11:41 PM.

[Bioran23]

The finale, compared to the rest of the episode (minus the Pirates episode - that one was ugh.), was a bit disappointing. Overall though this season has to be the best one out of the revived series so far - all the gems with TGWW, TDW, Closing Time etc.

Edited by Bioran23, Oct 13 2011 - 11:43 PM.

[Element lord Of Milk.]

I think that this season as a whole was sort of a mixed bag, some of the episodes were terrible(The pirate episode is seriously my most hated episode of DW)and i was pretty dissapointed with the first half until AGMGTW.


~ELM~

[Ravrahn]

This season has been brilliant, apart from CotBS and to a lesser extent Night Terrors. I've become such a hardcore fan since BZP went down, it's not even funny...

I still refuse to buy figures though

[Alyska]

My favourite episode this season has to be "The Doctor's Wife", mostly for this exchange:

Doc: She's the TARDIS... but she's also a woman... but she's the TARDIS... but she's a woman!
Amy: Did you wish really, really hard?
Doc: Shut up!
TARDIS: Hello! I'm "Sexy"!
Doc: ...Still shut up!

EDIT: Also "Let's Kill Hitler", for leaving us in suspense about who's going to try and kill Hitler, then locking him in a closet and forgetting about him.

Edited by Alyska, Oct 14 2011 - 02:03 AM.

[Venomcus]

Fantastic, for the most part. I liked the Dalek cameo in the finale, and the return of the Silents. Shame it's going to be a loooooong wait for the next series....

[Enzee]

You'd think being on BZPower would mean that we'd be used to long waits.

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At least we only have to wait until December, right? And then the longer wait begins.

[Alyska]

Anyone seen the Red Nose Day skit? I think the title was "Space and Time". It's available online in all regions, so it may be good for all you Who-deprived people who haven't watched it yet.

[Lord of Adders Black]

Personally I'm one of the people who likes that Moffat has created a huge overarching story that covers Matt Smith's run, makes an interesting change from the series-long arcs we got with Davies. Complaining that he hasn't wrapped everything up after two series finales is like only reading up to Two Towers and complaining they never reached Mordor

[The Inquisitive Automaton]

Ugh, don't talk to me about Doctor Who. I just...I just feel disappointed with it now. I've been defending it for so long from my friends who hate it, but I'm not sure I can be bothered to hold off their attacks when I myself was disappointed by the finale. I ALMOST wish RTD was back (Almost, I would never actually wish such a horrible thing) as at least he knew how to set up a good story. Even if it did end with more Deus Ex Machina's than God in a Japanese Warehouse.

[Senrab]

I liked the finale.

Also, silence will fall.

And bowties are cool.

[The Inquisitive Automaton]

I liked the finale.

Also, silence will fall.

And bowties are cool.

When I first heard Silence Will Fall and discovered the Silence were a species (Or so it seemed for the time being), I was hoping they just had an unfortunate habit of tripping up all the time. Shame I was wrong about that part.

[Lord Koji]

So, read Ratking, the Aurelio Zen novel. Silence will fall kept popping up (book is from '89, or something), enjoyed that.

Anyway, on topic. I did enjoy the finale for a standalone episode, and because it's basically promising that we'll delve into the mythos of the Doctor next year.

But, I really didn't enjoy this season. Better than any Davies season, though, minus Series 1. There's something about Eccleston that makes anything unable to beat Series 1.

Torchwood: Miracle Day. I did enjoy it, despite being mostly filler. I enjoyed it more than this season of Who, at least. I just hated Davies even more at how the end of the finale went. Killing off my favorite...

[Teemaich]

The latest series was way too River Songy and overall felt underwhelming compared to the last. Did have its moments though.

[CHTrilogy]

I'm becoming attached to the pinball game!

[Danska: Shadow Master]

Perhaps it's due to having much higher expectations since Moffat took over, but I didn't enjoy Series 6 nearly as much as 5. It had some brilliant episodes, sure. Day of the Moon, The Doctor's Wife, A Good Man Goes to War, Night Terrors, and the finale I certainly enjoyed, though it did kind of leave me with a feeling of "well what was the point of all that then?" given that most of it takes place in an alternate/pocket/whatever timeline that affected nothing, and didn't even result in anything changing besides the Doctor and River getting married (which I can't decide if I like or not and could have happened anyway). Overall I just found the series ever so slightly underwhelming.

Closing Time really annoyed me. I loved the episode, right up until the ending. The Cybermen have spent centuries perfecting their conversion method, converting thousands of people who, believe it or not, have emotions! Once upon a time, they had emotions to! If the conversion process causes them all to die the moment the person being converted feels love for someone then all the Cybermen would have died as soon as they attempted to convert anyone. There is also no logical reason why the conversion thingy should be linked to the Cybermen. It makes no sense!

Apart from that I'd say they got the Cybermen pretty much spot on. Now to wait for Series 7.

[Kumata]

I liked the overall idea of most of this season's episodes, but several with great ideas fell flat, whether it was due to poor directing or poor scripts (The God Complex in particular could have been fantastic, but it was just mediocre).

Saw the nature of The Question coming a mile off, although I liked it all the same. I like how Moffat's picking up on story threads that began in the classic series and hopefully it'll go somewhere interesting.

[GSR]

I enjoyed most of the season, but overall I felt it was a little weaker compared to series 5. Part of that is that a lot of the season was tied up in the arc; I preferred the somewhat more subtle buildup of seasons past.

Also, Torchwood needed to be about 2/3rds as long as it was.

Edited by GSR, Oct 14 2011 - 11:09 AM.

[Ghosthands]

Apparently it's been announced that Moffat's only giving us half of 2012's series, and showing the rest in 2013.

...

WHAT!? Doesn't he think I pay my licence fee for a reason?

[GSR]

There's an interview from fairly recently that says something along the lines of he feels that Who works better as an autumn show, and that they want to make 2013 as big as possible since it's the anniversary year.

[The Inquisitive Automaton]

I enjoyed most of the season, but overall I felt it was a little weaker compared to series 5. Part of that is that a lot of the season was tied up in the arc; I preferred the somewhat more subtle buildup of seasons past.

Also, Torchwood needed to be about 2/3rds as long as it was.

They just needed to not bother with Torchwood. I really didn't like Miracle Day, as it didn't seem the slightest bit like it belonged in the Whoniverse and there was barely a single alien, and the one there was had no significance on the plot. [/forcingmyopinionsonothers]

[Republic Commando Sev]

I just started watching this show recently, and I LOVE it. The 1st episode I watched was "The God Complex" and I was hooked after watching that. I ended up watching all the ones in Series 6 Part 2 after that, "Let's Kill Hitler", "Night Terrors", "The Girl Who Waited", "Closing Time" and "The Wedding of River Song". I absolutely loved each of those episodes. I liked them so much that I went out and bought Series 5 without seeing any of those episodes, which is something I never do.
I just watched "The Eleventh Hour" last night, and it was definitly one of my favorites.
Now I'm just waiting for The Complete Series 6 to come out so I can buy that and see the episodes I missed.
Sev

[Republic Commando Fixer]

I have just staring watching it as well. This show is truly amazing! All the characters have GREAT chemistry. Plot is really good! And overall this show is great! Matt Smith is my favortie reincarnation of the Doctor.

[Neelh]

It's epic! Seriously, my friend is like a Fem!Doctor and I'm the DoctorDonna because all the other names were taken. And when she gets married, she wants to use a bow tie to take her vows with.

TMI.

Anyway, I really like it, especially the creepy episodes, and JC (James Corden/Craig). My favourite episode was the one with the dolls and the hotel one. Purely because the were so suspenseful.

[BZP Blade]

Series 6 was awesome. The Wedding of River Song was very interesting, and I liked the part where the show overlapped with The Impossible Astronaut for the moment. Partly because we finally get to hear the dialogue that went on, and partly because of the comedic joke that shortly followed. =P

The ending was kinda interesting; people could say it was anti climatic, but did anyone not expect that ending, after something was shown earlier in the episode?

Can't wait for the next series, though. Any word on the Christmas Special yet, or is it still too early for any hints to that?

[-Toa Lhikevikk-]

I'm still cheering for the fact that the TARDIS's sentience is finally confirmed after literally decades of fan speculation.

[Heat]

I thought Let's Kill Hitler was a waste of a great setting.

-Heat

[CHTrilogy]

The whole Teselecta doohickey was a little cheesy..

[GSR]

I'm still cheering for the fact that the TARDIS's sentience is finally confirmed after literally decades of fan speculation.

And that, kids, is how Neil Gaiman lives up to years of expectation form a fandom. Probably the best episode of S6.

[The Inquisitive Automaton]

I thought Let's Kill Hitler was a waste of a great setting.

-Heat

Let's Kill Hitler annoyed me, as everything I saw advertised this as the day the Doctor meets Hitler, it was in the Radio Times, constantly being mentioned in interviews, and in general he was being set up like the villain, but he appeared for about three minutes, got shoved in a cupboard (Which I hoped he'd come out of again in Night Terrors) and was swiftly forgotten about. Even the method of meeting him was so forced it was painful. Surely if Melody was being subconsciously forced into killing the Doctor, she would have just shot him there and then when she first meets him. Or better yet, hit him with the car she was SPEEDING THROUGH A FIELD IN, IN THE FIRST PLACE.

[Lord Koji]

Let's face it, it was just a disappointing episode overall, especially coming off of A Good Man Goes To War.

[BZP Blade]

TWA: Actually, if you pay attention to the stuff being said and shown; she was trying to do that. =P "Accidental" firing in the TARDIS? Nearly running everyone over with the car? =P

But yeah, it was kinda disappointing that the title person appeared for all of two minutes, and half was to introduce the Teselecta(SP?).

[The Inquisitive Automaton]

B-b-but logic dictates that if she's under subconscious instructions to kill the Doctor, surely her first instinct is to shoot him as she as she points the gun at him. And nearly isn't good enough. =P

[Ravrahn]

But she's mental, logic doesn't have to dictate anything!

[BZP Blade]

What Rav said. =P Plus, well, the sequence showed how she'd grown up, and the fact that she was near her two best friends(And well, uh, you know.)... Maybe a combination of the two, or she just wanted Hitler to watch.

I'd go with Mental, however. =P That and the fact that she tried (and failed) to kill him like 5 times right after that, so... =P

[Booker DeWitt]

I thought Let's Kill Hitler was a waste of a great setting.

-Heat

Let's Kill Hitler annoyed me, as everything I saw advertised this as the day the Doctor meets Hitler, it was in the Radio Times, constantly being mentioned in interviews, and in general he was being set up like the villain, but he appeared for about three minutes, got shoved in a cupboard (Which I hoped he'd come out of again in Night Terrors) and was swiftly forgotten about. Even the method of meeting him was so forced it was painful. Surely if Melody was being subconsciously forced into killing the Doctor, she would have just shot him there and then when she first meets him. Or better yet, hit him with the car she was SPEEDING THROUGH A FIELD IN, IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Well, could they realistically have used Hitler in a key role in the episode anyway? Is there any scenario or story that could have him as a central character without offending people?

I went into LKH fully expecting him to have a very minor role, because you'd have to be incredibly careful if you were going to base an episode around him. Instead, they basically used him for comic relief, which is fair enough. With some awesome moments, like putting Hitler in the cupboard, and the line "Well, I was on my way to this gay Gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I suddenly thought "Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish. I think I'll kill the Fuhrer.""

All-in-all, a very good season. I was a little annoyed at the solution to the Doctor's death, but realistically it was always going to be either a Ganger or Tesselecta, and the Tesselecta was the less obvious of the two. Also, on 'Mels' not killing the Doctor on sight - that makes perfect sense. The brainwashing of the Silence wasn't particularly great, which is part of the whole reason why River ends up being a goodie.

Also, we need expansion on this River loving the Doctor thing. At the moment it's not believable, but I'm sure there are stories we're yet to see which will fill in the gaps.

- Tilius

Edited by Tilius, Oct 15 2011 - 08:37 PM.

[GSR]

Yeah, River seems to fall in love with the Doctor incredibly fast. I mean, thinking of her timeline, she'd spent maybe an hour of time with him (for most of which she wanted to kill him) before she wound up in that astronaut suit, at which point she apparently loved him enough to actually break reality. Pretty much the only way this works is if you recall that the Doctor spent some time adventuring with her in the 200 years between "The God Complex" and "Closing Time" and assume that was during River's time at Luna University for her.

I do wonder if they're done with River or not.

Spoiler

I know they've confirmed Amy and Rory will reappear to some degree, but apparently River depends on Alex Kingston's schedule. If they do bring her back, it would probably have to be akin to her series 5 appearances, since if they tried to cram in any more timey-wimeyness to her storyline it would probably explode.

Edited by GSR, Oct 15 2011 - 11:15 PM.

[Ravrahn]

If getting from no qualifications to a doctorate takes a similar amount of time in the future, then she had about 10 to have adventures with him. The Doctor managed to pretty much fall in love with her in about two years, only seeing her 4 or 5 times. There's no reason we should believe that River spent ten years actively looking for him and never once found him. They probably had quite a few adventures together between LKH and TWoRS.

As for the 'Mels didn't kill him straight away!' thing, she did actually explain that in the episode. The quote is "We'd only just met! I'm a psychopath - I'm not rude!"

Edited by +ravrahn, Oct 16 2011 - 05:03 AM.