Krakua Vision

[Voxumo]

alright i was just thinking about krakua and that is when it hit me. We will never know what fortress he was guarding when vakama had his vision. Now since it does not seem the serials will be finished we will never know for sure. so seeing as this could become a theory i will place my idea on what fortress he was talking about.i think it was metru-nui he was guarding. and yes i know someone will probably go"well i'm sure vakama would recognize metru-nui."and here is my retort to that" Metru-nui had huge walls surrounding the island with weapons mounted every where and beings other than matoran there when the final battle was being waged against the brotherhood."Would you remember your home town that consisted of maybe 10 building then you leave for like 5 years and you comeback and there are skyscraper everywhere, where your house used to be is the city dump now. i don't think you would immediately know that was your home.so see what i mean? I think that metru-nui could be the island krakua is protecting in the vision.

[Taipu1]

I believe it was said Krakua was the only defender. Metru-Nui had massive defences, what Toa were left, Order Members, and eventually Bohrok as well.

[BBBBalta]

I don't really see how this is possible, as there's no time when this could have taken place between the time Vakama saw the vision and the MU was destroyed. Why did you think the island was Metru Nui in the first place?

[Makuta Matata]

I think I'm missing something. When was this vision?

[Voxumo]

I think I'm missing something. When was this vision?

this vision took place in the book time trap where a kratana was attached to vakama's mask where he talked to the future krakua

[Makuta_of_Oz]

What if he was defending a fortress solo during the OoMN's war with the BoM?

[Dorek]

This theory has been tossed around a lot before. Last time I checked, Greg said the vision had yet to happen, so it does not occur during the siege of Metru Nui.

[Voxumo]

well what i was talking about is just since bionicle ended we will never know exactly what island krakua will be guarding. so my question was what possible locations he could be guarding. that is what i meant

[bonesiii]

well what i was talking about is just since bionicle ended we will never know exactly what island krakua will be guarding. so my question was what possible locations he could be guarding. that is what i meant

Oh. Well, I don't think it could be Metru Nui for the reasons others gave (also, it's more like, you're familiar with tons of skyscrapers and you come back and see still a bunch of skyscrapers ).Personally what I would hope for is something like my fanfic The Islander (link in sig). Without spoiling the reasons why, basically the island of Mata Nui is recreated in the southern ocean (an idea the BSS originally came up but nothing could be done with canonically). If that was done, a fortress could be built there and Krakua could guard it alone.Alternatively, there could be islands in rivers or lakes, or along the ocean's coast, and any of them could have a fortress built on it in the future. We shouldn't assume that Spherus Magna is devoid of islands; it's a huge (and now complex) landscape.

[Makuta Luroka]

My question is: was it specifically stated to be an island? it could very well be in the desert if not.

[fishers64]

My question is: was it specifically stated to be an island? it could very well be in the desert if not.

It was. The surroundings behind Krakua in said vision were described to be "an island fortress".

[T.B.O.C]

well what i was talking about is just since bionicle ended we will never know exactly what island krakua will be guarding. so my question was what possible locations he could be guarding. that is what i meant

Also, BIONICLE hasn't ended yet, Greg just has many other, far more important priorities right now, including a new child, his job at Lego, writing for Ninjago, and such. I for one, hope he goes on with Krakua, I always liked that character.Edit: Couldn't the island fortress be the one the Golden being created out of nowhere? 'tis a possibility... Edited March 14, 2012 by T.B.O.C

[fishers64]

Edit: Couldn't the island fortress be the one the Golden being created out of nowhere? 'tis a possibility...

Why would Krakua be guarding that? If he was, wouldn't he be mind-controlled by the Golden Skakdi and less likely to send random messages into the past?And I thought that said fortress was on a peninsula, not an island.

[T.B.O.C]

Edit: Couldn't the island fortress be the one the Golden being created out of nowhere? 'tis a possibility...

Why would Krakua be guarding that? If he was, wouldn't he be mind-controlled by the Golden Skakdi and less likely to send random messages into the past?And I thought that said fortress was on a peninsula, not an island.

I don't know, it just suddenly occurred that was an island fortress thing, and how many of those do we know of, anyway? About the peninsula and or island thing, I'll take your word for it, since it's been forever since I reviewed that part of the story. Makes sense to me.

[fishers64]

Edit: Couldn't the island fortress be the one the Golden being created out of nowhere? 'tis a possibility...

Why would Krakua be guarding that? If he was, wouldn't he be mind-controlled by the Golden Skakdi and less likely to send random messages into the past?And I thought that said fortress was on a peninsula, not an island.

I don't know, it just suddenly occurred that was an island fortress thing, and how many of those do we know of, anyway? About the peninsula and or island thing, I'll take your word for it, since it's been forever since I reviewed that part of the story. Makes sense to me.

I seem to recall that the Golden Skakdi and Co. walked out to the fortress upon creation, not using boats. It was close to the sea, but not completely detached from the central land mass. There's the reasoning.

[bonesiii]

It's plausible, maybe more so than my above ideas. The fact that the Golden being's in charge there is irrelevant as in future story that would likely change. And in a universe with elemental powers, someone like Onua could remove part of the peninsula, turning it into an island. And the Order, Krakua alone, or some new organization he belongs to could repurpose it, and he would guard it.Could happen.

[Tilius]

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Edited April 26, 2021 by Tilius

[bonesiii]

Well, it IS possible it's just a future made possible by the Inika but not essential. But we know it wasn't just a random possible future because it was said that if the Inika failed that future wouldn't happen. Greg might also have confirmed it will happen, but I dunno. Vakama's visions do tend to come true, though.

[T.B.O.C]

Well, it IS possible it's just a future made possible by the Inika but not essential. But we know it wasn't just a random possible future because it was said that if the Inika failed that future wouldn't happen. Greg might also have confirmed it will happen, but I dunno. Vakama's visions do tend to come true, though.

This probably has no relationship with it, but the Mahri are currently with the Golden Being on the island, but the island wasn't brought about because of them. Just saying.

[Taipu1]

Well, it IS possible it's just a future made possible by the Inika but not essential. But we know it wasn't just a random possible future because it was said that if the Inika failed that future wouldn't happen. Greg might also have confirmed it will happen, but I dunno. Vakama's visions do tend to come true, though.

This probably has no relationship with it, but the Mahri are currently with the Golden Being on the island, but the island wasn't brought about because of them. Just saying.

The fusion made the fortress, and the fusion is made up of the piraka, amongst other things. And the piraka all fitted in a big cauldron of EP because of the Mahri, as they wanted to get the Mask of Life, which ended up in the pit because of the Inika. These are all events that are linked together, the Piraka and now the fusion are the standard enemies of the mahri, so maybe it all has some relevance to Krakua and the vision he gave Vakama.Or maybe I'm stringing together unrelated points to get a ridiculous and irrelevant conclusion

[fishers64]

I think the main thing was that if the Mahri did not save Mata Nui's life, Krakua would not get the chance to guard the fortress. Thus it could be anytime during the Order/Makuta war or afterward on Spherus Magna, although the former is fairly well documented.

[T.B.O.C]

Well, it IS possible it's just a future made possible by the Inika but not essential. But we know it wasn't just a random possible future because it was said that if the Inika failed that future wouldn't happen. Greg might also have confirmed it will happen, but I dunno. Vakama's visions do tend to come true, though.

This probably has no relationship with it, but the Mahri are currently with the Golden Being on the island, but the island wasn't brought about because of them. Just saying.

The fusion made the fortress, and the fusion is made up of the piraka, amongst other things. And the piraka all fitted in a big cauldron of EP because of the Mahri, as they wanted to get the Mask of Life, which ended up in the pit because of the Inika. These are all events that are linked together, the Piraka and now the fusion are the standard enemies of the mahri, so maybe it all has some relevance to Krakua and the vision he gave Vakama.Or maybe I'm stringing together unrelated points to get a ridiculous and irrelevant conclusion

That is highly plausible, in my opinion. This would also fit into my theory that Zaktan wasn't really killed, and that he was the green cloud, and could possibly be the controller-person of the fusion. But who knows?

[Taipu1]

Well, it IS possible it's just a future made possible by the Inika but not essential. But we know it wasn't just a random possible future because it was said that if the Inika failed that future wouldn't happen. Greg might also have confirmed it will happen, but I dunno. Vakama's visions do tend to come true, though.

This probably has no relationship with it, but the Mahri are currently with the Golden Being on the island, but the island wasn't brought about because of them. Just saying.

The fusion made the fortress, and the fusion is made up of the piraka, amongst other things. And the piraka all fitted in a big cauldron of EP because of the Mahri, as they wanted to get the Mask of Life, which ended up in the pit because of the Inika. These are all events that are linked together, the Piraka and now the fusion are the standard enemies of the mahri, so maybe it all has some relevance to Krakua and the vision he gave Vakama.Or maybe I'm stringing together unrelated points to get a ridiculous and irrelevant conclusion

That is highly plausible, in my opinion. This would also fit into my theory that Zaktan wasn't really killed, and that he was the green cloud, and could possibly be the controller-person of the fusion. But who knows?

That would possibly imply that the purpose of the Krakua vision had a higher meaning, nothing to do with saving Mata Nui's life. Of course, given it was the Mahri's destiny to save Mata Nui's life, I think it unlikely.

[fishers64]

Well, it IS possible it's just a future made possible by the Inika but not essential. But we know it wasn't just a random possible future because it was said that if the Inika failed that future wouldn't happen. Greg might also have confirmed it will happen, but I dunno. Vakama's visions do tend to come true, though.

This probably has no relationship with it, but the Mahri are currently with the Golden Being on the island, but the island wasn't brought about because of them. Just saying.

The fusion made the fortress, and the fusion is made up of the piraka, amongst other things. And the piraka all fitted in a big cauldron of EP because of the Mahri, as they wanted to get the Mask of Life, which ended up in the pit because of the Inika. These are all events that are linked together, the Piraka and now the fusion are the standard enemies of the mahri, so maybe it all has some relevance to Krakua and the vision he gave Vakama.Or maybe I'm stringing together unrelated points to get a ridiculous and irrelevant conclusion

That is highly plausible, in my opinion. This would also fit into my theory that Zaktan wasn't really killed, and that he was the green cloud, and could possibly be the controller-person of the fusion. But who knows?

That would possibly imply that the purpose of the Krakua vision had a higher meaning, nothing to do with saving Mata Nui's life. Of course, given it was the Mahri's destiny to save Mata Nui's life, I think it unlikely.

Or it could be just an extension. Vakama is still "waiting and hoping" that the Mahri will free themselves from the Golden Skakdi and come back to assist the Toa - if he knows about their current predicament. A vision can have more than one meaning.