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[Ultimate Sybre]

If you could make ANY changes to ANY official BIONICLE movie, which one(s) would it/they be and what changes would you make? Changes as in voice-acting, scenes, plot, anything.

My changes would be voice-acting wise. I would do a backflip in my seat if Tobey Maguire and/or Chuck Norris had voice-acted someone. Also, I would make certain characters make cameos in every movie except Web of Shadows (I have nothing against that movie).

So, what will you change?

-Sybre

[Axilus Prime]

MOL: Final battle would be a fight that wrecks Mangaia, not a Kohlii match. The Takutanuva thing still happens in a GIVE ME YOUR FACE moment where Takanuva tries to tear off Makuta's face to weaken him to the point of being killable, but they tumble back into the protodermis.

LOMN: They use their elemental powers and score some victories on the Dark Hunters, slaughter a few Vahki but not too many so they don't look like they're about to win so easily, but enough so that they seem like Toa rather than Tall Matoran (as the Kikanalo put it) with mask powers.

WOS: Zivon, all spinner powers featured, all Rahaga given lines, the Toa putting up more of a fight and taking down the Zivon together. (Not tricking the Kahgarak into sending it back, literally killing the Zivon.)

TLR: Mata Nui voiced by Peter Cullen, Mata Nui fights Tuma, almost loses, then instead allows Tuma to whack his mask so that he gains the form represented by his Titan set. Unfortunately, that gives Tuma Rock Elemental Powers as well. Colossal battle, they win, Metus ends up looking like a fool and scampers off as he did, as a snake.

And of course there'd be a sequel, which Mata Nui wins by having those in the MU attack Makuta from within in key points that he reveals to them, and then tears open his chest when he is weakened to let everyone out. He then proceeds to have a five minute longer battle with Makuta, evenly matched to the last blow, and tears off Makuta's arm in the end. He uses the arm to make the gravity to fix Spherus Magna, then executed Makuta with a headshot--from Makuta's own arm.

And the entire golden armor thing is removed completely. Mata Nui goes into the mask and all that. Tahu is appointed leader. The End.

[fishers64]

For Web of Shadows, I would have made the plot of that movie actually match the book of the same name. That's all it needed, really - the differences from that are what killed it.

And a different ending song.

It would have been nice to have had the Zivion in there, but that would have made it too long.

As for the rest of the movies, I like them as they are.

[Janaro]

Bring in a competent writer.

[Axilus Prime]

Competent writer? The movies were passable..

The Zivon would not make it too long. The average movie is 2 and a half hours. WOS was little more than one hour.

[Hurricane iBrow]

MOL: Have Makuta release more than six Rahkshi, with each type centering in on a different village (not necessarily same color), so that the Toa Nuva remain divided in the beginning against their will, defending their village from a wave of Rahkshi with help froom the Matoran. Takua, Jaller, & the Chronicler's company take the Avohkii to Kini-Nui, where Takua becomes Takanuva and battles Makuta with help from the Company.

LOMN: Remove the montage of the Great Disks, and center the plot more around the Toa on the run from the Dark Hunters & Dume, while searching for Lhikan. Also, give at least the six Great Disk Matoran a larger role.

WOS: Instead of some battle against Visorak in the end, have the Toa Hordika (minus Vakama and Matau, but with the Rahaga) battling against the Zivon with aid from Krahka and Tahtorak.

TLR: Instead of Mata-Nui confronting the Skrall Tribe all by himself, have him lead an army of the other tribes against them, but still have Mata-Nui duel with Tuma one on one.

-ibrow

[fishers64]

Competent writer? The movies were passable..

The Zivon would not make it too long. The average movie is 2 and a half hours. WOS was little more than one hour.

Kids have limited attention spans. The average kid's movie is a half-hour, and by that standard WoS is long.

[Cratak]

The only thing I would change is making LOMN's story less hazy. Perhaps putting in more detail of what they did, along with giving the Matoran that helped them some of the limelight. The Morbuzkah would have been nice too.

[Ultimate Sybre]

The only thing I would change is making LOMN's story less hazy. Perhaps putting in more detail of what they did, along with giving the Matoran that helped them some of the limelight. The Morbuzkah would have been nice too.

Actually, the Morbuzahk appeared for a few seconds in that movie. Remember the disk montage?

[Sumiki]

I can't believe no one mentioned eliminating the über-cheesy "'cuz that's what friends do!" line. I'd remove that in a heartbeat.

Something that always bothered me about LoMN is that they never used their elemental powers. There was no good reason for them not to.

On the whole, I felt that the first three movies took the stylization of the characters a bit too far. While I liked some of their alterations, and they made sense, the discrepancy between set and movie is astounding. Then TLR comes along, and they make everything as set-like as possible - right down to those blasted discolored pins. Personally, I would have preferred a design for all four movies that was in between - set-like, but not overly stylized.

[CeeCee]

I would want WoS to be a fairly long movie(2h 30m?). It would follow to main stories.

1. Vakama's struggle: He would betray the group, just like in the actual movie. It would show him slowly develope down a path of shadows, with many of his morals changing(Although keeping one until the end, which would be to never directly kill one of his former brothers)

2. Matau's struggle: For this to really work LoMN would have to really show Matau's immature nature. In WoS Matau would have to lead the team. He has to slowly develop in maturity, with many of the Toa dobting him. LoMN would also focus on Matau and Vakama's close friendship.

This would mean that the final battle would mean a lot more.
What do you guys think of this plot idea?

Edited by Alterego, Sep 10 2012 - 02:07 PM.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

MoL: Takua and Jaller's trip to nowhere was boring and useless. I know that's what brought the Rahkshi all over the island, but there must have been a better way to execute that. Also, at the end of the movie there should have been a brutal fight, not Takanuva jumping around screaming like a lunatic.

LoMN: Not much wrong with this, but again, maybe a fight? Vakama moving out of the way wasn't a very exciting method of defeating Makuta.

WoS: Explain Vakama's character more. Maybe some more Rahaga lines.

TLR: A complete rewrite of the script. Remove stupid lines about friendship and duty, get someone else to voice Kiina, give the Skrall voices, make the fight between Tuma and MN better, and change the plot completely.

[Cratak]

The only thing I would change is making LOMN's story less hazy. Perhaps putting in more detail of what they did, along with giving the Matoran that helped them some of the limelight. The Morbuzkah would have been nice too.

Actually, the Morbuzahk appeared for a few seconds in that movie. Remember the disk montage?

I forgot about it being shown then. :3 But what I would really want is for the Morbuzkah to be shown as a sentient being with an unknown master like it was shown in the books/comics.

[Hurricane iBrow]

I would want WoS to be a fairly long movie(2h 30m?). It would follow to main stories.

1. Vakama's struggle: He would betray the group, just like in the actual movie. It would show him slowly develope down a path of shadows, with many of his morals changing(Although keeping one until the end, which would be to never directly kill one of his former brothers)

2. Matau's struggle: For this to really work LoMN would have to really show Matau's immature nature. In WoS Matau would have to lead the team. He has to slowly develop in maturity, with many of the Toa dobting him. LoMN would also focus on Matau and Vakama's close friendship.

This would mean that the final battle would mean a lot more.
What do you guys think of this plot idea?

Yes. I loved how the relationship between Vakama & Matau was built in WOS, and if they'd been able to do it through two longer (and perhaps darker movies, as they would be under my changes) it would've been amazing.

-ibrow

[CeeCee]

I would want WoS to be a fairly long movie(2h 30m?). It would follow to main stories.

1. Vakama's struggle: He would betray the group, just like in the actual movie. It would show him slowly develope down a path of shadows, with many of his morals changing(Although keeping one until the end, which would be to never directly kill one of his former brothers)

2. Matau's struggle: For this to really work LoMN would have to really show Matau's immature nature. In WoS Matau would have to lead the team. He has to slowly develop in maturity, with many of the Toa dobting him. LoMN would also focus on Matau and Vakama's close friendship.

This would mean that the final battle would mean a lot more.
What do you guys think of this plot idea?

Yes. I loved how the relationship between Vakama & Matau was built in WOS, and if they'd been able to do it through two longer (and perhaps darker movies, as they would be under my changes) it would've been amazing.

-ibrow

I agree. I think Metru Nui should have been a trilogy though. So many good characters that only got a few lines. Nuju, Onewa and Whenua barely got a look in

[Axilus Prime]

Yep. As a trilogy, with each movie 2h30m, they could have shown the WHOLE Metru Nui story.

[man774]

mask of light: po koro. ga koro. more matoran.
metru nui; complete rewrite.
web of shadows:mebbe explore an inner struggle witihn each of the toa hordika, and how roodaka might use taht to turn them all. Except matau. he resists temptation and turns them all back.

and a movie for voya nui, karda nui, and mahri nui.

[Magnetic Vorahk]

I would make them not awful.

Edited by Magnetic Vorahk, Sep 16 2012 - 03:54 PM.

[Biff]

Give the Toa Metru elemental powers in LoMN. I mean, come on! The Nuva had 'em. Why didn't the Metru?

[fishers64]

Give the Toa Metru elemental powers in LoMN. I mean, come on! The Nuva had 'em. Why didn't the Metru?

The thing was, the Metru ran out of elemental energy fighiting the Morbuzak and the Krahka, which were pretty powerful enemies. They didn't know that they would be facing Makuta soon.

[Toa Smoke Monster]

MoL: Make the fight between Takanuva and Makuta an actual fight, not a Kohlii match. (Kind of what TNG Prime described.)

LoMN: I would've make it a little more challenging for the Metru to trap Teridax in his protodermis cage. And in the battle to trap him, I would've had all the Metru present, not just Vakama.

WoS: I wouldn't really changed anything about this one.

TLR: Have Tuma be a much tougher opponent for Mata Nui. He was the leader of the Skrall, after all. Even with an injury to his back, he still should've been harder to take down than the way he was in the movie.

[Ultimate Sybre]

MoL: Make the fight between Takanuva and Makuta an actual fight, not a Kohlii match. (Kind of what TNG Prime described.)

WoS: I wouldn't really changed anything about this one.

Although I thought a Kohlii match was excellent at the time, now that I think about it, there could have been an actual fight with Takanuva still doing the finishing move. And I think Takutanuva deserved more screen time.

Even I have change ideas for this movie.

[CarkaJack]

1. Get rid of those ugly brick-sized eyebrows on all the character's masks.

2. Make Teridax not look like a radioactive robot devil with it's face smashed in.

3. Have Greg Farshtey involved in the writing, even if it's only a little bit.

4. get rid of Kiina's abnoxious voice.

5. Let the crew know that THEY'RE CYBORGS. THEY HAVE ORGANIC ORGANS lolredundant AND MECHANICAL ARMOR.

6. The Mata Nui chest-ripping awesomeness.

7. Taka and Terry actually fighting.

BTW, has anyone ever watched 'BIONICLES of Doom'?

[Jedi Knight Krazy]

I would swap the art styles of Legend Reborn and the first three movies. The first three looked extremely organic, which made less and less sense as we found out just how mechanical the inhabitants of the Matoran Universe were. Compare that to Bara Magna, where everybody's actually a mostly organic being wearing armor, and they look like robots in the movie.

[Fastcar700]

If you could make ANY changes to ANY official BIONICLE movie, which one(s) would it/they be and what changes would you make? Changes as in voice-acting, scenes, plot, anything.

My changes would be voice-acting wise. I would do a backflip in my seat if Tobey Maguire and/or Chuck Norris had voice-acted someone. Also, I would make certain characters make cameos in every movie except Web of Shadows (I have nothing against that movie).

So, what will you change?

-Sybre

Yeah. A voice change would be good.

[makuta_icarax]

I would've loved to have seen a Metru Nui trilogy... the Disk montage really ruined that one for me, it took out a whole lot of characterization and plot. I wish there could have been a lot more of the Toa who didn't have that many lines.

On another note, a Mahri movie or a movie showing the two robots fighting would have been amazing.

[Ultimate Sybre]

Oh, and a movie for 2001 and/or 2006 would be cool. I thought '06 deserved a movie.

[Axilus Prime]

What we needed was not TLR, it was a second trilogy encompassing 2006-2008. Those years needed a movie more than any of the others. And each movie would have to be 2h30m so it can cover EVERYTHING. Awesomeness.

[Refy L.S.]

MoL:
- More Rahkshi
- Make the Rahkshi actually look like Rahkshi
- Make the Matoran act more like they did in MNOG. They were too childish IMO.
- Get rid of Takua's ugly Pakari. Gosh did that look bad.
- Change Tahu's voice actor. And Lewa's. Tahu was way to gruff and deep, and Lewa was a bit too high and exaggerated.
LoMN:
- Maybe changed the Vahki designs. They looked a little to abstract from the originals.
- I dunno, probably not much else. I actually though LoMN was pretty good, given it was a childrens movie.
WoS:
- I don't really know. WoS was alright too.
TLR:
- Fix the ending. Or make a better one. It really irked me how they kind of just left off, even though Mata Nui barely got anywhere nearer to completing his goal, besides from finding the prototype robot.

Other than that, I'd probably get whoever made TLR to do the first three movies. They had much better visuals and portrayed characters a lot better IMO.

[northmarch]

First 3; nothing, they were awsome! ( except for that glitch with jaller's mask at the end of LoMN)

The Legend Reborn was good in story, but the animation, and scale were terribl.
I counted 22 things they messed up there, and 1/3 or them were in the opening sequence.
To sum up though; animation more like the first 3 films, no clones, fix the scaling issues with the villages, completely redo the opening, and no lame-nonsense sound effects (Kiina).

[CeeCee]

First 3; nothing, they were awsome! ( except for that glitch with jaller's mask at the end of LoMN)

What was the glitch? I have never noticed one.

[Rawrmouse_Bieber]

They should of made the first movie about the Toa Mata and then the second should of been the MOL arc.

[CeeCee]

They should of made the first movie about the Toa Mata and then the second should of been the MOL arc.

IMO
01,02,03-Trilogy
05,05-Trilogy
06,07- Trilogy
08-Trilogy, and would have all the toa teams in it.
09- Should be changed to some other plot but end the same way

Edited by Alterego, Sep 29 2012 - 01:21 PM.

[Ultimate Sybre]

They should of made the first movie about the Toa Mata and then the second should of been the MOL arc.

IMO
01,02,03-Trilogy
05,05-Trilogy
06,07- Trilogy
08-Trilogy, and would have all the toa teams in it.
09- Should be changed to some other plot but end the same way

Now that I'm thinking about it, a 2010 movie might have been nice.

[northmarch]

@ alterego

That glitch with the mask was that, when jaller gets his new mask at the end, you can see right through the top corner of the mask.
Weird

[Zestanor]

Mm... The Legend Reborn would use a Nathan Furst score. That would give me serious chills.

[Extractor]

I don't like the way how TLR appealed to a much 'younger' audience. The voice acting and script and music was TOO childlike in my opinion. The visuals were great, but they could have done better with the content. Otherwise, I have nothing to say about the other movies. They were great in their own ways.

[Ultimate Sybre]

You know, I would like to see what a Tim Burton BIONICLE movie would be like.

[Master Inika]

MoL: This was the best one, IMO. My biggest problem is how Pewku seems exaggeratedly animated, but it is a kids' movie.

I do notice a lot of people take the scene in Ko-Koro, right before Kopaka freezes the Rahkshi, out of context. They claim Takua was abandoning Jaller out of cowardice, but he was really trying to lure them away from him. I'd make that clearer.

And, in regards to the Kolhii match between Takanuva and Makuta, keep in mind that Makuta intentionally lost. If he was actually trying to beat Takanuva (whom had only been a Toa for about ten minutes), he probably would have won, and that would have thrown off his Plan.

LoMN: I really don't like how the movie skips over the Morbuzakh subplot. I'm okay with it being skipped, but how they went about it bothered me. For instance, Whenua remarking "What a waste," as he hands Vakama his disk ignored their significance in beating the Morbuzakh. The novelization even makes this error. I'd also give the Great Disk Matoran cameos, just for the heck of it.

WoS: I'm okay with Norik having most of the Rahaga's lines. Realistically, it's hard for me to imagine where they'd put them. It would also minimize the other characters (like Whenua) even more. At least we hear Bomonga and Kualus in the Animated Comic. I would have changed Keetongu's face to more resemble his set form, and made Sidorak seem less buffonish.

[Lenny7092]

I believe that each one of all four Bionicle movies would be better if it adds more characters.