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[Aanchir: Rachira of Time]

I thought they looked fine. My only real issue was Tahu's mask - you know the scene in Mask of Light where he's falling from a lavafall? Pay close attention, and his mask FLAPS. ew. Just, ew.

But they didn't look anything like the sets. I would have them look more like the Toa from the animated commercials. 
 
And for certain masks, i would have a mouth piece that moves as they talk, like the Kakama, but for the Hau, i would have the 'mouth' just be a hole and have the actual mouth of the Toa be seen and move behind it.

I thought they looked fine. My only real issue was Tahu's mask - you know the scene in Mask of Light where he's falling from a lavafall? Pay close attention, and his mask FLAPS. ew. Just, ew.

But they didn't look anything like the sets. I would have them look more like the Toa from the animated commercials. 
 
And for certain masks, i would have a mouth piece that moves as they talk, like the Kakama, but for the Hau, i would have the 'mouth' just be a hole and have the actual mouth of the Toa be seen and move behind it.

They weren't supposed to look like the sets. The movies appearances are supposed to be more canon than the sets.

It should also be noted that one criticism I've seen in reviews of the Ninjago TV special and other LEGO animated features is that "the characters look like they jumped out of a toybox". Some reviewers who clearly don't understand the sanctity of the LEGO minifigure even go so far as to suggest the claw-shaped hands of minifigures should be replaced with ones that move more realistically. So clearly for some people toy accuracy in this kind of medium can be incredibly distracting.

Not to mention that if the movie characters looked completely accurate to the sets, then there would be a loss in the sense of continuity between characters designed with different set design standards. Kids watching LoMN might not be able to tell that the Matoran are supposed to be the same species as the ones in MoL, given how very different they look. The movie makers' decision to stylize the characters helps them to follow more consistent design rules than the ones from the sets, which were subject to constantly-evolving design standards.

[Neelh]

I found the movie masks, especially the Kaukau, to look better than the sets.

 

I wouldn't have liked the movies as much as I do if they had been setlike? They aren't as relatable as CGI, in my opinion.

[Darth Jaller]

I found the movie masks, especially the Kaukau, to look better than the sets.

 

I wouldn't have liked the movies as much as I do if they had been setlike? They aren't as relatable as CGI, in my opinion.

 

I agree with that. Though as to the question of the topic at hand... I would just have rewritten the entire trilogy. Kept the same basic plot, maybe, and some of the scenes the same, just removed a whole bunch of the cheesy dialogue and added much more epic stuff in its place. That would probably be all for WoS and LoMN; though Mask of Light, I would make more changes to: make Takua and Jaller seem less childish, for one, they act like bickering children a lot of the time. And mess with the ending a lot - the Kohlii match, sure, could stand to be replaced with a proper fight, and the Nuva's defeat of the Rahkshi left a lot to be desired on the epic scale; but I'm thinking more after that. For example, I'd scrap Jaller's resurection; as much as I like him, I always thought bringing him back to life just nullified the significance of his death, which always bothered me somewhat, and it just went downhill from there. Got confusing, actually - I never understood what Vakama thought he was trying to achieve by pushing Jaller and Hahli onto the giant UUD symbol, or why that randomly resurected Takanuva and supposedly awakened Mata Nui even though later we would find it actually didn't - so I would have redone that part completely.

[ToaKapura1234]

I found the movie masks, especially the Kaukau, to look better than the sets.

 

I wouldn't have liked the movies as much as I do if they had been setlike? They aren't as relatable as CGI, in my opinion.

 

I agree with that. Though as to the question of the topic at hand... I would just have rewritten the entire trilogy. Kept the same basic plot, maybe, and some of the scenes the same, just removed a whole bunch of the cheesy dialogue and added much more epic stuff in its place. That would probably be all for WoS and LoMN; though Mask of Light, I would make more changes to: make Takua and Jaller seem less childish, for one, they act like bickering children a lot of the time. And mess with the ending a lot - the Kohlii match, sure, could stand to be replaced with a proper fight, and the Nuva's defeat of the Rahkshi left a lot to be desired on the epic scale; but I'm thinking more after that. For example, I'd scrap Jaller's resurection; as much as I like him, I always thought bringing him back to life just nullified the significance of his death, which always bothered me somewhat, and it just went downhill from there. Got confusing, actually - I never understood what Vakama thought he was trying to achieve by pushing Jaller and Hahli onto the giant UUD symbol, or why that randomly resurected Takanuva and supposedly awakened Mata Nui even though later we would find it actually didn't - so I would have redone that part completely.

Then who would lead the Toa Inika? Although maybe they could have just made Jaller not die or introduce a new character and kill him.  Also, if Jaller died and stayed dead, everyone would think Lhikan's mask was cursed.

[Darth Jaller]

...I'd actually like the idea of Lhikan's mask being cursed... XD But I dunno, maybe Kapura? Or at least, he could be the Toa of Fire... Kongu would have probably been the leader in that case; I seem to recall Jaller mentioning at one point that he would have been just as qualified as he was.

 

'course, this is just my personal oppinion, since Jaller's death is a huge nostalgic moment for me

[Jedi Knight Krazy]

 Also, if Jaller died and stayed dead, everyone would think Lhikan's mask was cursed.

I actually remember thinking that after LoMN...

[Ultimate Sybre]

 Also, if Jaller died and stayed dead, everyone would think Lhikan's mask was cursed.

I actually remember thinking that after LoMN...

I never though of it, though. I just simply watch and enjoy the movie.

[slifer3000]

 

I thought they looked fine. My only real issue was Tahu's mask - you know the scene in Mask of Light where he's falling from a lavafall? Pay close attention, and his mask FLAPS. ew. Just, ew.

But they didn't look anything like the sets. I would have them look more like the Toa from the animated commercials. 
 
And for certain masks, i would have a mouth piece that moves as they talk, like the Kakama, but for the Hau, i would have the 'mouth' just be a hole and have the actual mouth of the Toa be seen and move behind it. 

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I thought they looked fine. My only real issue was Tahu's mask - you know the scene in Mask of Light where he's falling from a lavafall? Pay close attention, and his mask FLAPS. ew. Just, ew.

But they didn't look anything like the sets. I would have them look more like the Toa from the animated commercials. 
 
And for certain masks, i would have a mouth piece that moves as they talk, like the Kakama, but for the Hau, i would have the 'mouth' just be a hole and have the actual mouth of the Toa be seen and move behind it. 

They weren't supposed to look like the sets. The movies appearances are supposed to be more canon than the sets.

 

Well i wouldn't make the Toa be EXACTLY like the sets. MY movie Toa Mata would have their arms like the standard sword arm (the arm Tahu, Gali, Kopaka, and Lewa use to hold weapons) but with a hand on it. Let me explain my perfect Tahu Mata:

 

Legs flipped, bluky side on top, creating masculine, fit appearance. Circle in the 'joint' of the Mata Legs would be red. Rest of leg would be orange. Some rustiness here and there. The pistons found throughout the legs would be red, creating a small hint of a red in the orange legs. The pistons would pull and heave like tendons. 

 

The chest would be more smooth, and would use the pistons you find along the Toa Mata's sides. The chest would be given almost an Iron Man look: smooth, but with lines that show were numerous armor plates join to form a broad chest.

 

So yeah, it would look like the toy, but would look a heck of a lot more BA than the MoL characters. Plus, you know the promotional art of the infected Kanohi Hau? Like that big 'ol zoom up? 

That one? Yeah, see those little pores in the mask's 'skin'? They create a rugged look. I would have them included in EVERY Toa's mask. Not the Kaukau, but all the others would have a worn and almost rusty appearance, but maintain their primary color. I would have certain masks have different mouths. The mouth of the Hau would just be a hole revealing the Toa's bare mouth in the hole. The Pakari would have a hinged jaw that connects to the mouth, giving the mask its own mouth. The KauKau would be a hole, the Kakama would have a built in mouth. Miru would be a hole, and Akaku would probably be a hole. 

 

If I become a movie producer, should I be so lucky, I will be producing a Bionicle movie, and probably wind up having them look like what i described. 

Edited by slifer3000, May 16 2013 - 09:45 PM.