Here is the review topic for my first COT epic, Marked. Constructive criticism and comments are very welcome. ![]()
- Vorex
Edited by Indecisive Individual, Jun 18 2013 - 01:46 PM.
Posted Oct 29 2012 - 05:58 AM
Here is the review topic for my first COT epic, Marked. Constructive criticism and comments are very welcome. ![]()
- Vorex
Edited by Indecisive Individual, Jun 18 2013 - 01:46 PM.
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Oct 29 2012 - 08:42 AM
Posted Oct 29 2012 - 12:13 PM
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Oct 29 2012 - 12:30 PM
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Posted Oct 29 2012 - 12:50 PM
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Oct 29 2012 - 02:20 PM
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Posted Oct 29 2012 - 02:29 PM
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Nov 01 2012 - 03:11 PM
Wotz: I just love the writing style of it. From what I've seen so far though, it should totally be a Doctor Who episode
Vorex: It's nice to have my writing style complimented.
And, once I've got a little further into it, you'll realise that this isn't really a Doctor Who kind of thing...
Wotz: I know, but all your prologues have a kind of Who-y feel to them
Posted Nov 01 2012 - 03:18 PM
1: Hoodies and jeans and converse are cool. (but yeah, he does sorta look a lot like you)Alrighty, so I reviewed the prologue over PMs so I'll do some copy-paste magicness.
Wotz: I just love the writing style of it. From what I've seen so far though, it should totally be a Doctor Who episode
Vorex: It's nice to have my writing style complimented.
And, once I've got a little further into it, you'll realise that this isn't really a Doctor Who kind of thing...
Wotz: I know, but all your prologues have a kind of Who-y feel to them
So, on to chapter 1:
Bit 1: Alex's appearance reminds me of me ^.^ Although he seems to lack my phenomenal dress sense
Him talking to Christina seemed like a serious version of some kind of mix between Transformers and The Inbetweeners, but maybe that's just me.
Bit 2:MARK BEARER ALERT
Bit 3: Ooh, nice and Potter-y. Although I think it might have worked better if we'd seen Ryan be a prick beforehand, then it would be more satisfying to see him get magicked.
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Nov 01 2012 - 04:57 PM
Posted Nov 01 2012 - 05:15 PM
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Nov 02 2012 - 04:41 AM
Ah, okay. Then I'm curious to see what the 'more interesting' chapters will be like.Well, first chapter. It's okay if it's a little predictable (I wasn't going for anything really original with Alex's introduction -- I considered this likely the least interesting one, so I wanted to get it out of the way first).
(not entirely sure what 'urban fantasy' is, but I'd say that it's probably at least something close)
I'll work on that.
- Vorex
Posted Nov 02 2012 - 04:49 AM
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Nov 02 2012 - 11:24 AM
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Posted Nov 02 2012 - 11:40 AM
Just so that you know, not everything will be set in Britain. I chose England for this particular character, though. (and I probably should have expected some comparison to Spider-Man, but somehow I didn't. Probably due to the fact that there are multiple characters with powers)
This feels a bit...I'm having trouble putting my finger on what I'm not liking here. The characters don't quite feel real to me, and this basically sounds like Spider-Man set in Britain (although that's not such a new idea, considering that the latest actor to portray him is British). What I feel is that the discovery of his power came too quickly, before the character was even really known to the reader. There was some attempt at characterization, but nothing was done as far as humanizing him, so this really feels half-baked and rushed. I think you really kind of have to get into his psyche before leaping to the types of things that he finds he can do, because I'm not interested in the powers yet. I'm waiting to make sure that the main character is someone whose shoes I can walk in rather than a name. You just haven't set him up emotionally yet, and the reason the story needs that is because I'm interested in how the powers affect him on a deeper level. Right now, this just seems to be an excuse just so say "look, he can shoot lightning from his hands."
As for the bully boyfriend, that all seemed painfully contrived. I kind of want an explanation as to why the girl went out with him in the first place and how he affected her psychologically. I'm glad that she was frightened by Alex, since realistically I think that's what should happen, but otherwise there's just something really lacking as far as how this space was taken up, and it didn't really take me on any sort of journey, nor did it set up for one.
Even though shorter chapters attract more readers, for the integrity of the story I think you might want to put a lot more into each one of them, because so far I've been left a bit unsatisfied and unclear if some of my questions (such as who Alex is as a human being) will ever be answered in future chapters.
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"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Nov 11 2012 - 01:46 PM
Posted Nov 11 2012 - 01:56 PM
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Nov 16 2012 - 06:51 AM
Um... could you expand on that a little?Well, you've managed to nag me into replying.
Thoughts ...
Totally not Mark Bearers, but anyway, everything seems to be going a bit too fast.
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Nov 17 2012 - 11:34 PM
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Posted Nov 19 2012 - 12:51 PM
Well, the proper details of David's powers haven't been gone into, and if you saw someone's eyes light up and then jump and land on a car, you would have to wonder. And Liam was trying to make himself seem moronic, to get David's guard down.
I'm going to have to agree with OM. Everything's going incredibly fast. It's going at the very least three times the speed that it needs to be going at. When Liam explained things to David, he got into the technical details and David just caught on way too fast. He could have resisted Liam a lot more and that encounter could have been drawn out more as well so that we could see reality gradually sink in for David, but his discovery of his powers were describbed in essentially one paragraph where he managed to avoid getting hit by a car, and Liam's interjection asking if he had superpowers just seemed really weird, even after it was revealed that he knew about the powers in the first place.
David got some characterisation in the beginning through exposition, but it seemed to have nothing to do with his presence once you actually started using him as a character. Same with Liam, who I imagined as some sort of dweebish emo but then he turned out to be some sort of Irish Hitler. I'm not entirely sure how to pin him, and everything was a bit confusing.
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"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Nov 20 2012 - 03:13 PM
Posted Nov 20 2012 - 03:18 PM
Bit 1: David will have to be the 'straight hero' of the group. And, Liam isn't meant to be the imposing villain at the moment, there are multiple villains. He's the 'misguided' villain; as you probably know, there's usually at least one in each piece of fiction I write.Bit 1: To be honest Liam isn't exactly the most imposing villain ever
He does seem ever so slightly Moriarty-ish, which is a plus. David's a bit... Normal, but he's pretty likeable I 'spose. Knowing you though, he'll be very different by the end.
Bit 2: Not entirely sure what this bit's all about. Is this another power of David's or is there larger power at work?That little electrified thingy reminded me of BZPRPG N&D.
Bit 3: Nice day.
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Nov 24 2012 - 12:29 PM
WHHYYYYYplaying Angry Birds on her phone
Posted Nov 24 2012 - 12:35 PM
1:Alrighty, new chapter.
Bit 1: She plays guitar
Bit 2: I was a little confused at first, I thought her dad was secretly a criminal.
Bit 3: Not big on eating breakfast, is she?
Bit 4:WHHYYYYYplaying Angry Birds on her phone
Also interesting you used the name 'Sam', which could be a boy or a girl, if you catch my drift...
Overall this is one of the better chapters so far. The pacing is a truckload better than that of the overly fast (IMHO) first and second chapters.
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Nov 24 2012 - 12:44 PM
Posted Nov 24 2012 - 12:46 PM
I hope that, once the chapters introducing characters are done, they'll be longer. I have plans written out for each chapter, and I might even combine a few for the sake of longer chapters.Huh, telepathy. How odd.
I just still wish the chapters were longer. At the current length they do suffice to introduce the characters, yes, but IMO a bit more could happen.
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Nov 26 2012 - 06:56 PM
Believe in the me who believes in you!~Kamina
Posted Nov 27 2012 - 01:13 PM
This is a man who knows what he's talking about.Pretty good so far, but I can see why there saying it is to fast, althought to me, it seems like a T.V shows intro episode, where they do a bit for each character, then go to the main stuff.
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Dec 11 2012 - 01:39 PM
Okay, you finally got me to read it so now it’s time for me to make me review it. I just hope this doesn’t come across as too critical. Which it probably will and should, given I’m being a critic.
Right, the first thing I noticed was that whenever you introduced a character you would stop the entire story to give a paragraph or two detailing their appearance and what their general personality is like and while that’s all well and good, it does come across as a bit jarring. Jean Valjean commented on the same thing and though your response was perfectly legitimate, I just want to add onto his point by saying that it doesn’t mean you should just not bother describing them at all. You just need to find a way to describe them gradually. Introduce the character and give the reader tidbits of detail as we go on. For example in chapter 4 you say “and although she didn’t know it her eyes had gone from blue to a dark shade of purple”. It just feels so much more detached from the rest of the story, whereas you could have had Eve look in a mirror at some point and discover for herself that her eyes had changed colour. This would also have allowed for character building as the reader sees her reaction to such a confusing difference. I guess it’s just a matter of showing and not telling which makes things flow so much easier.
Next up I guess I should comment on another thing that’s been brought up before and that’s just how everyone seems to react to everything. I have to be honest in saying that in every chapter there’s a moment that makes me wonder why a character didn’t show a completely different response. In chapter 1, it’s Alex confronting the bully. When his powers start showing, Ryan’s only response to a glowing teenager is “Fancy lightshow”. Even if Alex had run up with a hundred glowsticks shoved down his back that has to be a cause for at least some reconsideration of the assault. Likewise in chapter 2, David seems a little too accepting of Liam’s speech. Liam is literally some guy he has never met before who comes up to him and starts ranting about how humans are pathetic , how an ancient evil has awoken and all of that stuff. If someone did that to me, I’d think he’s nuts yet David seems to take it all in his stride as though this was a normal day. Finally in chapter 3, I have to wonder just what Mark was thinking when his daughter passed out and his best response was to tuck her into bed and leave her all alone. Alice’s reaction to Eve’s mind reading abilities was a little curious too as she almost immediately went from sceptical to excited. There wasn’t even the moment of horror I’d have thought would be common to see in someone who just found out there’s someone they can’t hide a single secret from.
One small note I have to make is on the character of Liam. I said before how almost the first thing that he seems to do upon meeting David is practically tell him that everyone he knows and loves is a piece of dirt that he’d love to step on. If he’s trying to manipulate people onto his side then I don’t think he’s doing a very good job because surely only a few very mean-spirited people will react to this with “Okay sure, let’s crush some ants”. Perhaps if he took his introduction slower and maybe fed hints and suggestions for world domination into conversations every now and again, joining him might not seem such a bad idea.
Finally I just have a couple of loose comments to make on top of these. First of all, if you could space out the paragraphs it would make things much easier to read than if they’re all in one big clump. I also noticed you have a tendency to overuse commas which can give a sentence a very stop-start feel.
I should probably finish off by saying that this probably does seem like quite a negative review but it isn’t and I do want to see this story improve. These are just the things that need working on. So far, I think it’s interesting and if you can iron out the creases then you’ll have something great on your hands.
"I have seen my dreams laid out before me, then taken away just as quickly."
"I have been shown fear in a handful of dust."
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Posted Dec 11 2012 - 02:12 PM
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Dec 13 2012 - 01:34 PM
I suppose it comes as no surpise that I enjoyed chapter 4. A lot. ^^
There was just one thing that irked me a bit; and that was the point where you all of a sudden introduced a 1st person narrator (the "unlike the other characters I have introduced so far" part), which just somehow didn't fit in with the rest 100%. Maybe that's just because it has never occurred so far, though ^^
Edited by Taka Nuvia ~ Demon Jester, Dec 13 2012 - 01:36 PM.
Posted Dec 13 2012 - 01:43 PM
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Jan 01 2013 - 01:01 PM
Like so often, I enjoyed the chapter, but this time, even though it was not that short, things were going a bit too fast for me. Not fast as in, too much information can't process, but fast in terms of pacing. IMO Crux breaking Alex worked a bit too easily;: but then again, I probably don't know the characters like you do. ^^"
Posted Jan 01 2013 - 01:24 PM
Like so often, I enjoyed the chapter, but this time, even though it was not that short, things were going a bit too fast for me. Not fast as in, too much information can't process, but fast in terms of pacing. IMO Crux breaking Alex worked a bit too easily;: but then again, I probably don't know the characters like you do. ^^"
I'll admit that Alex was somewhat easily broken, but he really wants Christina to remain out of what's going on, although it is for more selfish reasons than he admitted. The main reason for the last scene in the chapter was actually how quickly he was broken, proving that even Crux was surprised by how quickly he agreed.
- Vorex
Edited by Simply Vorex, Jan 01 2013 - 01:24 PM.
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Jan 03 2013 - 09:38 AM
Chapter 4
I really don't like the occasional breaking of the fourth wall by the narrator. It really makes you aware you're reading an epic and completely takes you out of the world you're trying to get into.
(that’s second for you Americans)
Unlike every pretty much every other character I’ve introduced so far
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It's just pain. Pain in writing form.
Also, how did Stephen know he had powers to unlock? Wouldn't he just assume it's a weird tattoo thingy?
-So, it seems to activate itself when I’m in danger.
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So Stephen can't be killed?
Good to see the story going somewhere at last, but the first half of this chapter is mediocre at best.
Chapter 5
Yay, it's Alex, the Pirok of Marked ![]()
Crux = Albino Morgan Freeman...?
I liked that conversation. I liked it a lot. Nice and vivid descriptions and all that, which is what this epic has indeed been lacking a lot so far.
Someone's bringing down the businesses of Ireland by kidnapping all the customers and turning them into space Nazi monkeys.
alex nerr:'(
So yeah I was impressed with Chapter 5, definitely made up for Chapter 4. Good stuff.
Posted Jan 03 2013 - 10:07 AM
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Jan 29 2013 - 01:25 PM
Another chapter
(and if I'm late with this, I apologize :/)
What got my attention was the listing of all the Markeds' powers:
Telepathy, Electricity, Telekinesis, Foresight, Necromancy, and Teleportation.
Somehow Electricity stands out a bit, if you ask me. All the other powers/abilities/whatever would basically fit into any period of time, but how could one explain to a medieval person what electricity is? Sure, it might all seem like magic to them, but somehow... it's a bit odd.
Apart from that the chapter's fine, though. Not as fast-paced as some of the previous ones, which is a good thing. ^^
Posted Jan 29 2013 - 01:49 PM
"We're not like them... we're something more... something better..."
"I never asked for this. I never asked to be a god."
"I suppose you think you can stall me, keep your hands lit up and ready to fire until one of us gives out and you can take the shot. Thing is, that's gonna tire you out after a while. But a gun? It doesn't tire out. All I have to do is keep my arm raised."
Marked: Chapter 10 (Coming Soon)
Posted Feb 02 2013 - 06:05 PM
I think I made clear in private my immense distaste for a building slap bang in the middle of London that rivals the scale of the Empire State building, yet Alex hasn't heard of it and nobody else really cares. It really throws away the whole feeling that this is set in the real world and just asdfghjkl;pain.
On the other hand, I really like the underground bit, it reminds me a bit of MI6 from the Alex Rider novels, kinda like how I imagine Crux as looking like an Albino Bill Nighy.
Convenient that they happened to turn up in the right place. A bit of destiny kicking in there methinks...
I want to get out of her
Should be here, unless you were going for some kind of sick minded subliminal messaging.
i dun see no boomtoran y
So yeah pretty good chapter, it'd be on par with the last one if not for the ridiculous building slap bang in the middle of London. A nice length as well, almost up to my ideal chapter length which is a plus.
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