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[TNT-Vezon with an Olmak]

So, I was thinking about BIONICLE as I always do, when I thought of something. Voya Nui is part of the southern continent. It is also part of the roof of Karda Nui. When it blasted up in the Great Cataclysm, it created a hole in the MU. This hole created a waterfall from the Black Water in Karda Nui. When the cord linking Mahri Nui to Voya Nui was shattered, the island went back to its place in the southern continent. So I have two questions.

1) Was there a giant waterfall going through the southern continent for 1000 years?

2) Was there starting to be flooding when Voya Nui went back to the southern continent? Or did the Staff of Artahka fix that?

[The Iron Toa]

Yes, there was a waterfall flowing from the hole Voya Nui made in the sky and into the hole Voya Nui left in the continent. I don't think the Southern Continent would flood from it, because all the water went down through the hole and into Karda Nui (which of course hadn't been completely flooded yet).

[Dual Matrix]

Yes, there was a waterfall flowing from the hole Voya Nui made in the sky and into the hole Voya Nui left in the continent. I don't think the Southern Continent would flood from it, because all the water went down through the hole and into Karda Nui (which of course hadn't been completely flooded yet).

Totaly agree with you

[Meta-Mind]

This is actually confirmed by Downfall: Matoro is described as pursuing Voya Nui through a hole in the seafloor and into a cavern, and he can still breathe (as he was a water-breather when he died) because he's in a waterfall. He then manages to shoot past Voya Nui just before it slams down to the floor.

As for the waterfall itself... why else would there be the Swamp of Secrets?

[T.B.O.C]

I think the issue was that we don't know how anyone on the Southern Continent reacted to the gaping hole in their land and sky, with a waterfall running through it. I mean, someone had to have noticed that.

[Meta-Mind]

I think the issue was that we don't know how anyone on the Southern Continent reacted to the gaping hole in their land and sky, with a waterfall running through it. I mean, someone had to have noticed that.

The Southern Continent is a fairly huge place, and there weren't many inhabitants overall. It's possible that few other Matoran lived near Voya Nui before the Cataclysm.

[T.B.O.C]

I think the issue was that we don't know how anyone on the Southern Continent reacted to the gaping hole in their land and sky, with a waterfall running through it. I mean, someone had to have noticed that.

The Southern Continent is a fairly huge place, and there weren't many inhabitants overall. It's possible that few other Matoran lived near Voya Nui before the Cataclysm.

That's most likely what happened. Either way, matoran living in a certain radius of where it was most likely died when it was ripped out of the continent.

[Power of Fire]

They wouldn't notice the waterfall because the area near Voya-nui was isolated seeing as Karzanhi sent the badly repaired Matoran that area so no would find his handy work.

Edited by Power of Fire, Nov 14 2012 - 05:31 PM.

[fishers64]

I think the issue was that we don't know how anyone on the Southern Continent reacted to the gaping hole in their land and sky, with a waterfall running through it. I mean, someone had to have noticed that.

The Southern Continent is a fairly huge place, and there weren't many inhabitants overall. It's possible that few other Matoran lived near Voya Nui before the Cataclysm.

That's most likely what happened. Either way, matoran living in a certain radius of where it was most likely died when it was ripped out of the continent.

If they had noticed, would it have changed much in terms of story?

[T.B.O.C]

I think the issue was that we don't know how anyone on the Southern Continent reacted to the gaping hole in their land and sky, with a waterfall running through it. I mean, someone had to have noticed that.

The Southern Continent is a fairly huge place, and there weren't many inhabitants overall. It's possible that few other Matoran lived near Voya Nui before the Cataclysm.

That's most likely what happened. Either way, matoran living in a certain radius of where it was most likely died when it was ripped out of the continent.

If they had noticed, would it have changed much in terms of story?

Maybe not really, but still, people would start wondering if there was a giant hole in what you thought was your sky.

[Makuta Matata]

It would probably be odd to see a giant waterfall coming from the sky and into a giant hole in the ground. And somehow I don't think that nobody noticed, regardless of how sparsely populated the continent was.

[fishers64]

It would probably be odd to see a giant waterfall coming from the sky and into a giant hole in the ground. And somehow I don't think that nobody noticed, regardless of how sparsely populated the continent was.

True.

Maybe not really, but still, people would start wondering if there was a giant hole in what you thought was your sky.

Well, they had just gone through a cataclysmic earthquake, so the sky falling right after the earth shaking might not have been too much of a stretch for them to believe. Mata Nui was asleep...just a lot of wrong things were going on then. What was a waterfall compared to all that?

[The Iron Toa]

I agree. We know the Southern Continent was relatively sparsely populated, and the Voya Nui region must have been remote enough for Karzanhi to consider the Matoran he sent there hidden from the rest of the world. But that sky dome covers the whole continent, so a waterfall the size of Voya Nui -- bigger than any waterfall on Earth -- should have been visible for a great distance. I agree that it being noticed wouldn't have impacted the story much, and that they'd just go along with it being part of the bizarre cataclysm their world experienced.

[TNT-Vezon with an Olmak]

For #2, what I was suggesting is that nothing plugged the hole in the dome once Voya Nui came back to its spot in the continent. So wouldn't there be a giant rush of water unitl the Staff of Artahka was used to fix "the hole in the sky?"

[Dual Matrix]

The staff was used before Voya Nui returning you can read it In Gali Nuvas blog

[The Iron Toa]

Huh. Good point, TNT-DJ Vezon, and I misunderstood you. Voya Nui fell back through the hole in the sky it left and into the hole it left in the Southern Continent, but how did the hole in the sky get fixed? I don't see how the Staff of Artakha could have fixed it before the island returned, because the hole and the waterfall were still there at that time, for the island and Matoro to descend through. Maybe Voya Nui did get hit by the waterfall for a little while after returning to its proper place, and the staff soon fixed that? Voya Nui would have been flooded anyway during its descent (the caves the Matoran hid in must have been sealed) so it wouldn't make much of a difference if the hole in the sky wasn't fixed right away.

Edited by The Iron Toa, Nov 15 2012 - 02:51 PM.

[TNT-Vezon with an Olmak]

Oh, it was? Didn't know that. Then how did that hole in the top of the dome get sealed?

[Dual Matrix]

No really read Gali Nuva blog

[The Iron Toa]

Aha, here's a useful quote:

"And when your fellow heroes sever the cord hat binds Voya Nui to Mahri Nui, it too will be restored to where it belongs and the hole it made sealed behind it." - Helryx, Toa Nuva Blog (not named in that story)

The staff was indeed activated before Voya Nui reentered the universe (but I think very shortly before), and apparently had a delayed effect to seal the hole when that happened. Convenient. Thanks, Toa Temporal.

[Master Inika]

Well, we can rule out that Makuta Mutran underwent a generous relief effort.

[Dual Matrix]

Aha, here's a useful quote:

"And when your fellow heroes sever the cord hat binds Voya Nui to Mahri Nui, it too will be restored to where it belongs and the hole it made sealed behind it." - Helryx, Toa Nuva Blog (not named in that story)

The staff was indeed activated before Voya Nui reentered the universe (but I think very shortly before), and apparently had a delayed effect to seal the hole when that happened. Convenient. Thanks, Toa Temporal.

Thanks I knew that because I was wondering about that before but when I read it, problem solved

Sorry I didn't have time to find the exact quote

[TNT-Vezon with an Olmak]

Oh, I thought they were talking about the hole in the continent...

[The Iron Toa]

Well they could be, but 'sealed behind it' makes me think they mean sealing the hole in the sky once it passes back through.

[Dual Matrix]

Well, we can rule out that Makuta Mutran underwent a generous relief effort.

What do you mean?

[TNT-Vezon with an Olmak]

Well, we can rule out that Makuta Mutran underwent a generous relief effort.

What do you mean?

I think he was kidding.

[Master Inika]

Well, we can rule out that Makuta Mutran underwent a generous relief effort.

What do you mean?

I think he was kidding.

Yeah, it as mentioned somewhere that Mutran was the Makuta of that area, and he payed very little attention to it.

[fishers64]

Well, we can rule out that Makuta Mutran underwent a generous relief effort.

What do you mean?

I think he was kidding.

Yeah, it as mentioned somewhere that Mutran was the Makuta of that area, and he payed very little attention to it.

And he paid quite dearly for his laziness and inattention, seeing as he ended up in the Karda Nui swamp below.

[Master Inika]

Well, we can rule out that Makuta Mutran underwent a generous relief effort.

What do you mean?

I think he was kidding.

Yeah, it as mentioned somewhere that Mutran was the Makuta of that area, and he payed very little attention to it.

And he paid quite dearly for his laziness and inattention, seeing as he ended up in the Karda Nui swamp below.

"I mean, how long can it take Mutran to do something about that hole in the sky?"

"Well, he is in Karda Nui."

"What? Since when?"