Toa Komali

No the Toa Mata don't get old, anymore than Optimus Prime gets old. But them arriving on a island after Makuta or what have you and having mask collecting be their mission to beat him that does. The mask collection thing it worked back then because this catchphrase was in everyone's mind and heart at the time "Gotta catch Em' all!" it is why Yu-Gi-Oh and other collectable series was working then because collecting was in and to a degree still is. But the fad of collecting all masks, Krana, Kratta, Kanoka and such is not as strong a selling point now. The characters are not the problem, it is the method to the story that is the problem as again I point to Optimus Prime how many times has Cybertron been under attack? How many times have humans and living machines fought the same war, and how many times has Optimus died? As a fan of Transformers and Bionicle I can say with full honesty the characters can stay the same and certain parts of their mission can too, but after Transformers: The Unicron Trilogy did we see Minicons with every figure, no we didn't. What about Mata Nui already having its champions who have defended it for years and made life good, but Makuta assails the Island. He is not a native, he is a conqueror looking to add Mata Nui to his empire or he is a "Demon" from beyond the region and like darkmatter in the Kirby universe seeks to claim all before him so he may reshape it into more of him to put it another way he is a virus and his function to corrupt and reformat. Heck Makuta could be literally out to destroy Mata Nui, again just to sustain himself like the Beast Planet from Shadow Warriors. Same Characters can get stale if they are handled poorly but there is a series where the same three people are in a never-ending cycle and it is the third most successful franchise its creator and owners have. "Legend tales of a kingdom old, a land once lush thanks to three of gold. Green fields and blue waters cover the land, the peaceful peoples all held onto the other's hand. Peaceful time it slowly spun, no fear or need to run. A hard days work done, now it is time for fun. But slowly a shadow seeped, through the cracks it would reap. Oh dear oh no, this can't be so, what is happeing, to the joyous light, will our world sink into night?! A bright light it appears, its courage has grown through the years! It journeyed across our land, what is that held in his hand, Why no, can it be, do you think? Is that the sword of evils bane?! No man can hold that it is insane! But here we see night turning into day, the hero he had it the evil it did slay! Now we can sing once again, in peace the day as bright as it began this quest was beyond our dreams!"- Wind Waker intro custom lyrics Ok it may need some tweaking to follow the rhythm properly but every line could describe any of the Zelda games and they have not gotten stale by a longshot. Verbatim the plot to all but two Zelda games is in that song so tell me the same characters and basic premise can't be times.

Phong: Chance has nothing to do with it, the future is not determined by the throw of the dice. But by the conscious decisions of you, and me. I'm not ruling it out Lego has never failed to surprise me, we may only have a blink into a possible return. Who knows but regardless there are Lego Idea Projects gathering momentum faster than a blue hedgehog on blast processing, unlike a good chunk of Lego Ideas like the Central Perk friends set or the disney related sets and beyond this idea is pure Lego. So there will be no need to haggle, communicate with a organisation like ABC, NBC, WB, Ect. this set if it gets the votes is one Lego can stamp a "Pass" on so it can be in our hands from their brilliant minds. One way or another Bionicle is getting recognition soon, if not the home front then we can do our part for the legend to never truly end. "Legacy is in the air" and for me that has many meanings.

Taria, why you do this to me Taria? You wound me, shattered a dream! Dashed it on the rocks like a cheap ceramic bowl, I trusted you Taria! You were the chosen one, you were meant to wear the Inika not loose it! Ok I really hope you can take a joke here Taria because that was meant to be read in the voice of the Godfather, not a legit tormented cry at you for pointing it out. I mean no harm just wanted to try to get a chuckle out of my fellows. In a way I am both glad and sad, glad we don't need to keep speculating on sill for fun stuff from Chris, as well as not having to learn a third mythos while I write and create a story set in what I call "The Legacy" universe of G1 Basically it is a alternate universe where Teridax slipped up his timing at the Core Processor and Mata Nui awoke after the Inika jump started Karda Nui. Mata Nui carried out his mission and made a attempt to protect all worlds from plans like Teridax's, he turned the GSR into a moon of the newly reborn Sphereus Magna. Now like I said I also am sad, I truly believe Lego could pull a Hasbro and have Bionicle become like Transformers a multigenerational series where the old stories can continue for the older fans and the new toy lines have their own story. We gave Bionicle 2015 the nickname G2 I would love for there to be a bionicle generations one day. But I can't tell lego what to do, at least alone I can't but I'm not pushing them on this just yet. May Bionicle return one day and may it be as awesome as we know it can be.

If they weren't eh, if they were the piraka had their defeat coming even without you know destroying everything. Move Along is a great song.

Bah, I still like the idea of love in the setting. No not like that you sickos, no if any of you have yet to read it I'll link it https://www.deviantart.com/nickonplanetripple/gallery/64101494/the-toa-a-bionicle-retelling Nick has a great interpretation of the Early romance, they don't reproduce but having someone you'd like to always be with or to take care of mutually like Hewkii and Macku or Jaller and Hahli before the about face is not harmful. Heck it's quite like how children understand love, the have crushes but it has nothing more than being a really good friend they trust more than anyone else. My up coming project will follow this as well as allowing MU residents to have future generations, it is really a expansion on how Jaller was revived by Takutanuva I.E. two beings channel energy into a object (Matoran, Toa, Turaga it would be Kanohi) and a new instance of that species is created. Greg mostly changed that concept to keep sick minds from messing with a otherwise wholesome concept.

Um are we going to ignore Vakama, Takua, even Matau? Those three really showed emotion a lot.

I commend you for apologizing my friend, I know I've bumbled a bit since the forums reopened myself and thanks to a fellow member I was able to fix it before it went nuts. Anyway a musical doesn't necessarily need romance in it, there are many examples out there. Sure most musicals have romance and love songs but it needs not be a limitation but a option. I like the old cartoons where you'd get musical numbers in them, like the Donkey Kong Country tv series (Sterling Jervis is a great singer) but again Bionicle I am not so sure it could do it, a Play isn't the same as Brodway I've been in ones with no music at all. So yeah interesting idea but ultimately I can't see it working.

I think this is a joke, someone posted this like five times as separate threads.

Didn't you know, they let the Animated alumnus finish off the story last Botcon. Unicron, RID 2001, both have connection to current series or rather would if the concept of "The Shroud" hadn't happened. Indeed they do do focus alot on G1/bayverse (Which coincidentally isn't even Bay anymore) but there are a few threads to others you got to look for (Trust me I've spent like the last four years researching Transformers as if I was writing a thesis in university on it. They are there if you know what to look for.) I will agree though we need to get back on topic and I two love both franchises alot. I got both Transformers and Bohrok for Christmas many years apart but they both are deep in my very core of fiction and geekdom. I just hope we know Faber enough to trust him not to put us on Earth, it is the whole reason it took 3 years to see a movie afterall because "Bionicle didn't work with humans, especially young humans among Toa, Turaga and Matoran" and funny enough the movie we got had some alumnus from Beast Wars in it (Tahu and Dinobot have the same VA and it is awesome!) that is the last on Cybertron you'll hear from me in this thread. But a dream to have a multiversal Bionicle is something Lego can do just as well as any competitor maybe even give a friendly rivalry rise.

Doesn't stop Hasbro, that is my point. Think has any Transformers series truly been left to rot, no they acknowledge them and even work the old stories to cross over with the new. Cybertron always continues not just with fans but with the creators and writers, Mata Nui=Optimus, Makuta=Megatron just because G1 ended 30 plus years ago doesn't keep it from the lime light we see those heros in new works as they were and as they are. Why can't Lego do what another franchise has done, keeping sections of the Multiverse expanding even if they aren't the forefront current line? Imagine it Bionicle G1 being relevant as Transformers G1, that is what I mean? Think of it like this, G1 ended in the 80s, but come 1997 that very universe, very time line, was revisited with what came after the Autobots and Decepticons. Maximals and Predicons, so far as to the point that they visit the very HQ of G1 to protect it from being erased. Let's one day see the conflict we didn't see inside Mata Nui while the Toa floated on the ocean new heros working behind the scenes and maybe just maybe sets released for Con goers. Epic doesn't begin to describe the possibility that could bring, Bionicle is just as amazing as Transformers if not more.

RoTF and the first movie oddly have a funny little Time related thing, according to the first movie the Allspark landed on Earth roughly 20,000 B.C.. RoTF the father of the Decepticons is on Earth in 17,000 B.C, roughly 3000 years after the great realic he served landed on Earth since B.C. counted backward to 1 and then 1 A.D counts up. Relativity is weird, but I am all for Mata Nui having viewed us all the way back then 100,000 years is inconceivable to a point in Human minds. But for Earth to hold any remnants of his visit in the 21st and beyond century would only make sense if a Olmak is involved, Red Star's Purpose was conservation of resources and flight take off. Why would anything be left behind when that is the case? Also speaking of Cybertron, who here besides me think Lego should make Bionicle their Equivalent to Transformers? By which I mean each Generation is its own universe but they are all connected somehow, a Bionicle Gen can be like a Transformers Gen, the story is soft rebooted to allow new fans to enjoy it but the old fans and stories can be continued in comics and convention stuff. If any Lego creation has the power to be Legos' Juggernaut on par with a 30 year old franchise it's Bionicle. New legends are awake, but old memories must be told. For that is the way of the Bionicle.

Glad I can help ya my friend, I hope all goes well.

Got a collection of G1 masks but no G2 stuff. I am using them for Pepakura paper art, so I can sculpt some MoL style Matoran and others, my best hope to help is to recommend you to this site https://www.yeggi.com/q/bionicle+masks/ I have found a great deal of mask patterns and models there. Though oddly not the Great Masks of the Toa Mata, got those from Modeler Resource along with the Toa models I suspect a Biomedia connection there and all I can say is thanks if so.

Very close indeed, shut me up on that subject. Still I hope this has more in common with the first series and less Earth. Bionicle may be Biological Chronicle but well it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth if it is Earthly, in setting.

To be fair not as fast as this, this kind of movement would need more than Ice shifts that is also continental shifts here. I just find it more coincidental is all, especially since some parts of Lego Geography have looked much closer to real world stuff like this.

I see full Krahkan in that mask, that is something and a amazing unplanned (?) connection to villains with Masks. Cannot agree with you on the Mask of Elemental energy similarity though, Cheeks are not pronounced enough. I think though this is giving me a idea, Kanohi based off the helmets and masks of previous Lego series, like the Stingray guys in the old Auqazone sets or the knights from the 2003-ish line that was kinda a Middle-ages Ninjago now I think on it. Pity Johnny Thunder didn't have a mask nut the Aussie style one side up brimmed hat, among my Lego memories Johnny is second only to the Infomaniac of Lego Island fame. I properly discovered Lego around 1996-7 and the rest is life long. As for a computer scenario Makuta is more like the Viral villain Megabyte from the first CGI cartoon "Reboot", he is calm, collected, ever scheming and if Lee Tokar hadn't played Teridax in the movies (How did he do it? This is the guy who voiced Bling-Bling Boy in Johnny Test, Mr. Higsby from Megaman Nt Warrior, Doctor Frog in League of Super Evil a short run on US airwaves, and I think it was Inkey in Pac-Man and the Ghostly Adventures alongside many Bionicle Alumnus if I recall. All his characters have a somewhat whinny touch to their voice but Teridax is full on Baritone-Bass levels of deep voice) Tony Jay would of been my pick for his voice, pity Jay never got a role in the first three since he passed back in 2006 he would of made a great Icarax seeing how he was the most like Teridax in mindset. Off topic sorry, but back to the Analogy. Megabyte was pure brute strength much as Teridax in 2003 was, he had the power to infect a program with touch alone which in another similarity changed the color of the infected to match his deep blue metal skin (As Teridax infected things they became either slimy, rusted or toxic looking as a corruption to the poor saps enslaved by him. But Megabyte could not infect all of the system he was in as it had security parameters , in this case the Matoran, Toa, Turaga and Rahi were able to fight as anyone being infected would could use will power, and the Toa unless forced to wear the Mask were Gaurdian protocol (Think Tron only they don't need the User, in fact in Reboot which takes place inside a computer where no one knows what is inside their OS. just as beyond

Nah nah I'm not trying to do accurate exact replication of scale for Mata Nui or Sphereus Magna, no this is research to grasp the size it could look right on a texture map of a planet not accurate but it makes sense if you look at it. Seeing as my spriting project requires a few orbital shots of Sphereus Magnus and a new body in place of Aqua Magna, Matoraus Magna which is meant to be the body of Mata Nui's GSR form if it were turned from a inside world to a external plant world. The Domes are now truly Islands in the seas of this moon for Sphereus Magna and Mata Nui is the best thing to set a reasonable replica of scale. It can't be accurate to the degree it would need to be if I wear actually mapping the Matoran Universe like a Cartographer.

Nope, I checked it the bit at the top of Antarctica is far more straight and is not a series of small Island like Archipelagos, this has a vauge outline similar to but not anywhere exact to be a Earth landmass. Funny enough the curly bit at the top reminds me of the cowlick on the obscure video game character Plok, to me though it looks like part of the southern island chains in Mata Nui. I always liked to say Bionicle was far far away from Earth, I.E. Sphereus Magna and its solar system is in a galaxy much like ours and Mata Nui may have passed Earth in the long distant past but even if he could land on it we'd be no wiser as Kini-Nui would disguise him.

I'm going to have to play through all the OG then Voya Nui is one I never ever got the chance to try when it was on the website, thank the stars that Biomedia is out there. I'll check em out, based off a crazy idea I has I think I can work this. The idea is inspired by Phantasy Star the first and second games, in the first many of the buildings (And remember Phantasy Star is a Sci-Fantasy game Tech and Magic are in harmony but the tech is advanced well beyond Earth concepts well by the standards of the 80s Sci-Fi terms) are blue dome shaped houses. In the second game it is more advanced and architecture has changed, though given that it is a RPG a city looks like a village but the building style still has a dome oddly it's at the top of the building now. Thank you for the key links there, I will look through them tomorrow as I am on my Wii U and Biosector loads oddly on here (Odd considering the other Bionicle Wiki out there the one with orange background has no trouble with its side bar getting in the way.) I completely forgot Le-Koro's tree top nature allowed for more verity since huts are more suited for tree habitation, what with having to place logs into the tree as a floor and foundation. I really need to play MNOG 2 all the way through, it's more RPG than MNOG which was a point and click adventure style (Thankfully without a goat puzzle) but I can explore most of the Island after I fix the bridge if I remember. As for Metru Nui we get some interior designs in the Promos and if I remember the game about the Plant that was made by Teridax (Makuta Bones I can't remember how to spell that darn thing's name let alone pronounce it, Karzahni is easy the other not so) and the Vahki animations show some skyline and exterior shots for buildings, considering that Metru Nui is the hogh point of tech in the Matoran universe I could see building like Sim City's Archologies Buildings that are cities in themselves. I'd say Agori and Glatoran would also follow the same kind of rules, The area dictates the style. The whole Bara Magna era villages were probably quite like the Pueblo buildings of the Native American tribes of the western deserts in the US, built into the very clif sides like Taijun or near the two giant trees in the Jungle village. Speaking of what kind of mega flora did Sphereus Magna have in its prehistory that they stand even to this day (And that is taking in account of the long life spans of the native Sentient races) petrified mega Redwoods sheesh!

Ok as I'm getting ready to work on some Bionicle pixel art and sprites projects in the near future I have found myself with a puzzle, in MNOG 1 and 2 most Matoran homes are dome shaped and even in Mask of Light the Ta-Matoran in the attack on Ta-Koro were huddled up inside a dome hut. This got me thinking on is this common throughout the Matoran Universe as I can't recall Metru Nui having dome shaped buildings besides the Moto Hub and the Great Temple where the Toa Suva is. Anyone else know of examples of Matoran homes? I think in MNOG 1 Vakama's chamber was within a building built out of the wall and was more boxy due to this with a classic "Stone Door Frame" like you'd see in the Flintstones. I think that they might move in another direction of Architecture on Sphereus Magna but really what are some good examples of nondome homes?

Back in the early years I too thought Mata Nui was meant to be the next step up in the cosmos, with the intro of Karzahni and Artakha we even had what could of been seen as the two under gods, beings to look after Mata Nui's Charges who passed on like in greek myth only Hades here was split in two. One who guarded a paradise (The Elysian Fields) and one who made sure no bad deed went unpunished (Tartarus). Makuta was always the prince of evil of the universe and had no real power over spirit only on the mind. Then we learn the Great Beings are really Glatorian who knew how to make things and as misunderstanding were labeled with a title that went to their heads, being mere scientists who could and can die. It is no wonder they were in your head "Us", "The Man Upstairs", "MOC" builders and so forth if you look at it they fit how we see ourselves when we create and build. We are the step between all Lego creations and the true higher powers (Based on your beliefs who that is but there is a step between even that and it is in Denmark. ) Also I only noticed from your avatar Chuck but the classic UFO Mask it looks a lot like The Mask of Shadows.

A very estute way of looking at it, though I think you are correct in erring (Wow I'm a writer and I just now learned the proper spelling of that in this context, Thanks very much for that granted they never really got too high a level on spelling in my schools trust me you did not want the system I went with. "I can Spelz gud" ) on the side that it is not a biological thing. While we do know Makuta created Rahi through Energized Protodermis and Energy based virals, and Rhotuka are made of energy (Nuju used a ice block to bounce a spinner back at a Kahgarak and like all energy it bounced) they seem to be more connected to Will Power than Biology. Since certain Visorak have spinners that have nothing to do with biological effects, coupled with the fact that the shields of the Toa Hagah needed custom shields to fire their own I am one to lean towards it working on any creature depending on the power. I mean Roodaka cannot possibly be thinking of every function that her mutations would need to live, so as long as there is a DNA she can mutate it to a form shape and the Rhotuka fills in the blanks to make it function. Also considering the Ignika can change Agori into Snakes and in theory Roodaka's spinner can change that it makes logical sense.

I do have to agree with this logic, though the Rode and the "Sakon" (Remember that is my name for the prototype Calix in my Bionicle works) are quite "finished" by the looks of things guess they could always make test molds with Silicone and resin and paint the mask to look more true. Honestly I would love to visit Lego HQ and their Archives one day, see things we never saw officially but could of and have happened in the Bionicle (Remember we got a universe where Teridax was never once swayed by Shadow or a plan to take over and a world where Mata Nui died). If Lego ever reads this and I doubt they ever will cause it's a forum post on a discontinued line, something I would love to have near my area or at least at Lego Land would be history tours of multiple lines. A Museum Lego not just a book or video, no a actual museum showing off in person the creations that for so many made and make Everything Awesome! Anyway back to topic, I plan to use the prototype Masks in my story though I will need to figure out powers for them. I would love if someone actually modeled the "Sakon" in 3D so I could make a Movie version of it for a modelling project I'm doing, that is a actual figurine of Movie style Matoran. It's for my Prop Shop, I am so glad the render of Jaller with the Calix was Modeled and given a 360 turn around it lets me get a true scale for the figurines and detail of the More realistic designs.

I gave the Prototype Calix a new name and power ages ago. Name: Kanohi Sakon AKA: The mask of Craft Animation Power: Allows the user to create constructs from nearby drawings, sculptures, and or carvings. The mask is not giving life to the constructs merely allowing them movement and in the case of the drawings form. Drawn/Carved things will be made from the material that they were on prior to animation. Given that was ages ago I am refining the power but the basics are the same as ever.

Ok here is a interesting thought, but I recently was rereading the Hordika Venom entry and noted that it would have no effect on anyone native to Sphereus Magna. This makes sense as it would be Biological Protodermis that the venom was composed of, and only beings born within Mata Nui (I mean the Matoran Universe) would naturally have it in their genes. But that got me thinking there was another item brought to light during the Vhisorak saga, the wheels of energy with a verity of powers the Rhotuka Spinner and we all know one of the most morally backstabing and in it for themselves has the power to mutate too. Roodaka, the queen of the Vhisorak and one who made sure she was always on the hights of power! She possesses a Rhotuka that can mutate anything it hits into what ever she wishes, a Toa of Air and a entire team of toa who risked their lives to save the Mask of Light all knew too well. The only thing that could undo her alterations would be the Ignika, Pit Mutagen would make it worse and so would Hordika Venom. But unlike the Venom this power is supposedly anyone could manage if they had a way to charge a spinner and had a want to force things to be as they wished like Roodaka does. Would that mean even Sphereus Magna residents with out a ounce of Protodermis in them could create a Rhotuka and by extension be mutated, dehydrated, put into a void of Shadow and more just as Matoran, Toa and even Makuta could be? I think this is a thought that needs further discussion as nowhere have I found a truly conclusive answer to this question. At best I say it should do the same thing to any living creature (Mask of Life can Affect even nonliving matter it is merely easier for it to control life touched things, where is the proof it can change inert matter why the Legend Reborn, Mata Nui's body was born from Sand and some sand will hold bits of life forms but it is mostly stone) and it is a simple matter of having knowledge of the concept and a way to launch the spinner to have one yourself.