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I was just thinking the same thing. In fact, sound waves actually travel more efficiently through water than through air, to the point where IIRC the speed of sound is significantly higher underwater. EDIT: ~4 times faster, as it turns out Perhaps we could assume that the audio receptors of protodermic beings function differently somehow than human ears and thus can't pick up soundwaves underwater? idk

yeeeesssssssss classic punky stuff 5/5

Stylistically not something I'd seek out. Technically intricate and fascinating though. I dug the flute interlude. 4/5 speaking of woodwinds in genres that don't usually have woodwinds, let's bring the bass clarinet into folk/roots music. it's about time.

He's definitely green and grey, not gold. He got a fairly detailed description when he appeared in one of the serials in late 2008. Technically speaking, Karzahni was definitely gold and black... and then when he appeared in a set in 2007 he was suddenly green and silver. That's one reason I don't tend to consider descriptions of unportrayed characters to be the be-all and end-all of the characters, since Lego themselves didn't let descriptions like that stifle them when it came time to debut a previously undepicted character. True, but then again Artahka was never transformed, as far as we know. I am in love with the idea of Tarnished Artahka.

He's definitely green and grey, not gold. He got a fairly detailed description when he appeared in one of the serials in late 2008.

4/5 A little generic instrumentally, but I thought the lyrics had some clever bits

Lhikan's Hau in any color would have been glorious.

@fishers- Clearly the bird is a metaphor for the fog, and vice-versa Crack theory: Jehui is the Foe of the World. "Ruling with Fire and Light" simply means he will somehow get Vyroko/Deschyny to do his bidding. And we've already seen him manipulate Deschyny. "He has glided for three days" refers to him zipping around in his spirit form. The word choice is a red herring to make us mistakenly suspect Vyroko -- a bloodred herring, then. Bonus: the Tahtorak is almost suspicious of how clever Jehui is Not that I want this to happen, of course -- Jehui is my favorite character!! D:

Possible? It's not just possible, it's already happened!! kidding aside, it's definitely possible -- like you mentioned, the Toa Hagah had masks in shapes that were not standard for the powers -- heck, even Nuju had a modified mask as a Toa. But aside from practical alterations like Nuju's eyepiece or variations with ceremonial significance as in the case of the Hagah, I imagine most mask-makers would frown upon such practices, as it would just be confusing (and potentially dangerous: suppose an angry rahi is rampaging through the district and the local Toa needs a Pakari to subdue it, so she grabs what appears to be a Mask of Strength, only to discover that it is actually a Mask of Sensory Aptitude. Consistency in shape is important!)

I wonder if you could carve a Vahi shape out of other Kanoka? Like if the Matoran became a Toa, it would take the form of the actual mask. It has been shown that Kanohi can be different shapes than their actual form, such as Norik's Pehkui, Iruni's Kualsi if you follow the headcanon that the Volitak's true form resembles Nidhiki's mutated face. You could carve a Vahi-shaped Matoran mask, yeah. but it wouldn't turn into a mask of Time if the Matoran became a Toa. It's impossible for multiples of the same Legendary Kanohi to exist simultaneously, and as SPIRIT mentioned, it is also impossible for a Mask of Time to exist which is not Legendary. The reason for this is a basic difference between how Great masks function and how Legendary masks function -- Great masks act as batteries for various powers, whereas Legendary masks act as conduits for fundamental forces of the universe itself.

There's no ambiguity. It was ultrasonic (until the slowdown of some in the GC), and they didn't need to speak orders to Matoran. Anybody who failed to show up to work could be collected, shoved into their place of work, and they'd know what to do from there. And in other situations, generally being fired at with the Vahki powers, chased, or otherwise attacked means "bad." And the only possible "good" interaction with the Vahki is not interacting with the Vahki @Toa Vanson -- Vahki are definitely too small to produce anything like the tripod noise Thing is, I can see why some Vahki might use sirens -- specifically Vorzahk and Keerahk, since staffs of Erasing and Confusion would turn Matoran into worse workers (I never really understood why those powers weren't considered counterintuitive), so sirens would be useful to give Matoran one last warning before scrambling their brains for the rest of the day/week/whatever. However, given the desire for total silence within Ko-Metru, sirens on Keerahk would probably be a supremely bad idea, and as for Vorzahk, the distinctive sound of them smashing through everything in their path is probably siren enough The Vahki are already super-intimidating as they are -- I'm not sure sirens would be necessary for intimidation.

Ahh, thanks for the references fishers. I do not have my books with me

Except Matoran weren't supposed to be able to understand Vahki speech. At all. In Web of the Visorak, when the Toa Metru discover that the power surge caused the Vahki that remained functional to revert to speaking intelligibly, they find this surprising, and Whenua says something to the effect of "Everyone knows Vahki don't speak Matoran."

It totally was. I remember seeing it in its original 01-08 format. Totally forgot that it was you who made it, though and it's still just as funny seven years later I have the mask! Mata Nui is dead! Mata Nui is alive! I am dead!

That was the original concept, yeah. Scrapped because neither Nidhiki nor Dume were involved in the 2005 storyline, nor were they even Toa at the same time, much less on the same team. It does perfectly explain why Iruini's mask is shaped like a Vahki head, though So if we consider that the "masks shaped like other masks" thing would've been introduced to explain why Norik's Pehkui is shaped like a Kiril, it's no jump in reasoning to assume that Iruini's Kualsi is shaped like a Volitak -- we know it's not a Kualsi's standard shape, at the very least. In fact, if memory serves, I'm pretty sure that this is what most everyone assumed until 2007 when Greg was like " nah son it looks like Nuparu's mask"

Just thought I'd say, Nidhiki actually wore a Volitak in the story, so technically you don't need to paint anything for him. Of course Nidhiki wore a Volitak. But it's a very common headcanon that Nidhiki's Volitak was shaped the same as Iruini's Kualsi and the mask worn by Defilak, rather than the same as Nuparu Mahri's Volitak. Since the Toa Hagah's masks are specifically stated to have been shaped like masks of differing powers, and because the Toa Mahri came into being through some rather atypical transformations, there's no reason to assume that Nidhiki's Kanohi wasn't shaped like the mask we know as the Kualsi (Greg says otherwise, of course, but he's also stated in the past that he thinks and imagines in words rather than images. If you ask me, that means we don't necesssarily have to take his word on matters of aesthetics)

This was a wonderful little novella. I too am disappointed that we didn't get more of an explanation for the taboo against multiple-element masks, but I did like your interpretation of the Mask of Ultimate Power as a sapient entity, scheming to bring itself into existence. I'm also really into the parallelism between Makuta saving Ekimu from the Skull Spider and Ekimu attempting to save Makuta from the MoUP in the finale

Hot dang, this is stellar. He has even more of a "desert survivor" vibe than the official set, and I am SO into those boots. How did you manage to attach those armor shells to the Mata feet?

Function, probably Fate. I think it as a really interesting power and I wish it could have been explored further -- imagine if it had been applied to more than just physical feats? Runners-up are Levitation and Quick Travel. Appearance, the original Miru, Kakama, noble Ruru. Runners up are the Kiril, the Kualsi, and Lhikan's Hau, which I ish we could have gotten in more colors.

I'm not actually sure it does. The circumference of the Earth is about 25,000 miles/40,000 km; in feet, that's 132,000,000 -- barely more than thrice the robot's canon height. So while it's possible for him to lie down, it would be on a noticeable curve. He'd also probably be unable to stand up at all under the planet's gravity, given that he's the same height as its diameter, and thus it would probably be impossible to take off without knocking the planet out of orbit. Nah point taken. I was just being facetious there

That claim ignores the fact that continents are different sizes. What does "continent-sized" even mean? Surely you're not suggesting we impose our own ideas of scale onto the GSR's interior environment, since that's exactly what you've spent this whole thread trying to convince, me, Cressona, et al. not to do? Well, that's fine. I'm not trying to get it into "tame" territory anymore, not now that you've shown me how SM can remain its canon size with no contradiction to storyline Shrinking him down doesn't mean the sunholes have to be the pupils, though. Even at half-size I was still picturing the sunholes as his tear ducts. Besides, I just like the idea of the Toa Metru flying airships out the tear ducts -- it's very Fantastic Voyage Ok, that's a bit of a game-changer for me then. At this point I take no concrete position on the GSR's size. Remember that the robot was designed to spend a very significant portion of its existence flying through space. That necessitates a system to produce artificial gravity for the interior, a system which the GSR has been confirmed to have. You're thinking of 2009's The Legend Reborn (typically referred to around these parts as TLR). That Toa-sized character was Mata Nui. This is an excellent point. We should have been considering what the upper limits are for the size of the interior continents. As it is, you have shown there'd be no way to fit an Australia-sized continent inside the GSR even at a height of 40 million feet (I'm choosing to trust your calculations, because I haven't the motivation to try to work through them myself ), so I'm going to go ahead and assume that the NC is considerable smaller. Let's go for New Zealand-sized, maybe

I just went back and edited that part of my post for more clarity, but I was too late Basically, what I was thinking by "territories" was species habitats or factions. Metru Nui has six regions, yes, but it's also primarily inhabited by Matoran, and -- as you said -- ruled by a single Turaga, so here we have both a primary species and a single faction. Then you can consider islands like Xia, Zakaz, and Stelt, which each are inhabited by one primary species -- although Stelt does have some diversity, it's still primarily ruled by one specific species -- or places like Odina and Daxia, which are home to a multitude of species, but to only one faction each. Of course, now that I check BS01 in a state of actual alertness, unlike the reply I wrote at 2am, I see I'll have to scrap that whole idea -- for some reason, I'd always assumed that the Continents were inhabited by multiple species, but it appears that they were populated only by Matoran and Rahi, along with the resident Makuta. Now I'm just wondering where I got that earlier notion Nevertheless, I hold to what I said about size: the Southern Continent could be as small as the island of Mata Nui and still be larger than all the other landmasses inside the MU. IIRC Odina was one of the largest islands, and it's still small enough that its huge, sprawling fortress is clearly visible from above, so it'd have to be smaller by far than the aforementioned Mata Nui. Yes, but if you line up Mt. Ihu with his nose and Naho Bay with the tear duct of his left eye, his mouth is still chilling off the coast, south of the point where Le-Wahi and Ta-Wahi join. I'd demonstrate but I have no skills whatsoever in image manipulation If, however, you halve the robot's size -- as your own image suggests -- I'm pretty sure it would all line up right on the dot. And of course this means nothing in-universe -- the fact that these are out-story clues is the foundation of my argument. I'm trying to get back to what the story team was thinking while cooking this all up fifteen years ago. That's what I've been trying to do with this thread -- push for the largest possible option that does not, in my mind, contradict the intentions of the original story team. When I said the GSR could be as small as Australia, I didn't mean that I necessarily think it ought to be, at least from where I stand now. Sorry for failing to clarify that When you say that "the Reformation plotline was invented apparently around the time that the size of the giant was pinned down," though, do you mean that the Reformation wasn't part of the original giant robot concept? Because if so, that too miiiiight force me to adjust my position again Higher likelihood, yes. Naturally But my thought is that the likelihood is negligible in either case -- 40 million feet or 20 million feet alike. I should've worded it in terms of negligibility, but again, it was way too late for me to be posting

Toa Kohron, since Nidhiki is usually just described as "emerald," you could always just use the dark green Kualsi from Defilak. If you really want it silver, though, I've found that metallic silver Sharpies are a perfect match for the silver from 2002-05 (less so for the Pearl Light Grey silver we started getting in '06). The only downside is that the marker can dry out fairly quickly, so you may need a handful at your disposal just in case, and it can rub or scratch off extremely easily; you'll need to handle the mask only by the edges when it's done, and I wouldn't recommend this for a moc that you expect to experience anything rougher than permanent display. I've also never used it to color an entire mask -- only highlights myself; were I back home with my collection, I'd show you examples, but alas -- so I can't say whether the texture will look convincing, or if it will have an obviously "markered" look. That's all I got, I'm afraid. Sorry I can't help with the white masks

Now THAT would be one doozy of a misprint! (Pearl gold refers to the gold used from late 2005 onwards, e.g. Brutaka. Was it the 2004 flat gold Vahi you're talking about?)