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    JAG18

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    I think it really depends on what your looking for - I can tell you right away that, while Shippey's is colloquialized and flows better on modern tongues, Hudson's adheres more closely to the original text. 

     

    Personally I like the more literal translations, but that's because I find the historical context of the poem more interesting than the content - which definitely isn't the case for everyone.

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    Trijhak

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    Yeah there are definitely some weaknesses with Vakama's conversion (and all the issues inherent with Roodaka are a whole 'nother ball of wax) but Web of Shadows is the most ambitious thing ever to come out of BIONICLE as a character piece and as a film. And I've really got to respect it for that, warts and all, just like the two movies before it. 2005 gets a lot of flak for being 'the year they didn't bring us back to the Toa Nuva like they said they would' and I think it's really too bad that that whole mentality rubs off on the movie and the whole 'Vakama turning evil' thing. Like, I get it, the actual idea of doing what they did in 2005 wasn't probably the greatest, but what happened happened and I'd like to appreciate it for what it is as much as I lament for what might have been.

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    FallenAtlas

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    This is a BIONICLE site, so for a lot of people BIONICLE is an important part of their lives. When someone sees something about it differently, it becomes an encroachment on something somewhat important to someone else. So disagreements happen.

     

    The anonymity of the internet just allows people to get angrier faster. That's true anywhere, not just BZP.

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    SPIRIT

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    The plot synopsis on the Disney Wiki says she must "prove herself a master wayfinder." I didn't realize that the term from Treespeak was Polynesian in origin.

     

    It's different enough that I don't suppose it will literally be BIONICLE: Disney Edition outright but it should be really interesting looking for parallels as more about the story comes out.

    emily

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    One thing you should probably understand is that the hints of Makuta being a tragic villain in Mask of Light were some of the ONLY such hints in the series, and should not be considered indicative of some early, abandoned aspect of the character.. In Makuta's first appearance in the Mata Nui Online Game, he was established as a deceiver who would not hesitate to lie to the Toa in order to make them doubt their heroic convictions. Given that, why would you assume that his claim that "sleep spares [Mata Nui] pain" was anything other than more of the same?

    The only reason I started thinking about this in the first place was because of this bit from the 2003 Style Guide:

     

    The Rahi are beasts influenced by the infected masks they wear; the Bohrok are carrying out a legitimate mission, and only lack of understanding of the part of others makes them seem bad. Even Makuta will eventually be shown to have good reasons for his seemingly nasty behavior... it is his methods that are at fault more than his motivation.

    Regardless of where things began and ended, it is absolutely certain that Makuta was not considered a true 'villain' by the story team in 2003.

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    believe victims

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    Thank you. I really don't get what is so hard to understand about this for some people. Stories aren't made to be internally consistent microrealities - they're meant to say something. That's why it really bothers me when people get worked up about canon - aka an arbitrary collection of 'right' and 'wrong' assignments to different pieces of media. "What really happened" isn't the important thing - the important thing is the media pieces themselves, what they offer, and what they have to say.

    Kaleidoscope Tekulo

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    It isn't so much Western culture corrupting Easter philosophy as it is Western philosophy fundamentally differing. Look as far back as Beowulf and the idea of light=good dark=bad is already well-engrained in our culture.

     

    I do agree that it is overplayed at this point - which is why it is a shame they pulled the original plot with Makuta being good out from under us.

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    emily

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    What is the mask/head shown on the Makuta cap? I don't think I've ever seen that picture before.

    Yeah - curiously, that seems to be an asset that goes otherwise unused anywhere. If I had to make a guess I would say it is the 'Makuta image' from before the Infected Kanohi were envisioned (a rather late development to the BIONICLE mythos, so it can't have represented Makuta from the beginning).

    Noxryn

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    It was the weirdest feeling seeing canonization polls in S&T in 2014, nearly five years after the story's conclusion. I thought we were done with this, but I guess we may never truly be.

     

    It used to get to me a lot, but like Santa I realized that there is really no reason to take the 'officially official' story as doctrine. Let it be what you want it to be, what you love about it.

    Zeddy

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    Dude, there were LEGO stores way before then. We've had one here at the Mall of America for as long as I can even remember. I once bought a six-pack of Bohrok for $20 there.

    Takuma Nuva

    Yeah, on second thought, I'm not sure what I was thinking - the Mall of America one was established in the late 90s, if I remember correctly.

    Zeddy

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    how does this i dont even

     

    That was 2004. If memory serves there weren't even any LEGO stores at all back then. Just seasonal kiosks in some places. How does a LEGO product from before a store existed end up in the store's inventory, never mind the question of how the sets survived to be on the shelf today?

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    Letagi

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    I was able to beat it 2 or 3 years ago using a download version of it. I was also able to do it "legitimately" without upping the skills in code, but that was only because I was (purposely) using a slow computer, making the skill games much easier, especially stamina and strength. It was strangely rewarding completing, though I always loved this game because of the added Matoran culture and so on.

    Oooh, that's clever. I'll have to give the game another try using Cheat Engine to slow the framerate, it never occurred to me that modern computers might be playing the game faster than intended.

     

    I've never been able to complete the game without cheating. I literally upped Hahli's skills all to 100 and I still couldn't beat the Kolhii matches. I'm terrible at this game.

    emily

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    Unless Makuta is in the habit of lying through his teeth to himself for no reason

    Well, that's just it; he does. Everything he does in in service of this grand, ultimate plan, which amounts to little more than self-delusion. He wants to be more important than he is.

     

    And all those mutterings about sparing Mata Nui pain are technically true; it's just omitting the detail that he, Makuta, is the one who caused him to be awake and suffering in the first place.

     

    I'm not sure where you're getting that MoL was supposed to be the end of the series. Much like TV shows, I'm sure they had to be prepared for an inevitable cancellation, and plenty of plans adapted and changed along the way, but MoL in particular was always the first part of a trilogy, which is why you have the ending leading directly into LoMN.

     

    And that's why Takutanuva had to be killed off; couldn't have a god-tier being just waltzing around =P. Then, in LoMN, you learn more about Makuta, and how he's the one who actually caused Mata Nui's downfall in the first place.

     

    This is all written under the assumption that there were significant plans to conclude BIONICLE in 2003. Naturally, were that to be false (which is entirely possible), this is a load of crazy gibberish.

     

    But I feel that there is a definite underlying pattern in Mask of Light that supports my theory to a degree. No way to know for sure, but it is nice to wonder.

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