Jump to content

  • Log in with Facebook Log in with Twitter Log In with Google      Sign In   
  • Create Account

Welcome to BZPower!

Hi there, while we hope you enjoy browsing through the site, there's a lot more you can do if you register. The process is easy and you can use your Google, Facebook, or Twitter account to make it even faster. Some perks of joining include:
  • Create your own topics, participate in existing discussions, and vote in polls
  • Show off your creations, stories, art, music, and movies and play member and staff-run games
  • Enter contests to win free LEGO sets and other prizes, and vote to decide the winners
  • Participate in raffles, including exclusive raffles for new members, and win free LEGO sets
  • Send private messages to other members
  • Organize with other members to attend or send your MOCs to LEGO fan events all over the world
  • Much, much more!
Enjoy your visit!

Posted Image


Click to ToggleParticipate in our raffle!

Hi, Guest. Come take a look and participate in our raffle:

Chima 2014 Big Raffle
Chima 2014 New Member Raffle
Chima 2014 Little Raffle

Photo

Codename "BIONICLE"?


  • Please log in to reply
22 replies to this topic

#1 Offline Illuminatus

Illuminatus
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Outstanding BZP Citizens
  • Mask of Light Unveiled

  • 5,172 posts
  •   Outstanding BZPower Citizen

Posted Jun 14 2013 - 06:28 PM

I just had an idea that frankly blew my mind (LOL). I need to share it with you guys:

 

So, basically it's been known since the time before time that Bionicle stands for Biological Chronicle. It was Faber's initial idea, which, however, is tightly connected with the concept of Mata Nui being one gigantic being or "organism" housing an incredible amount of miniature beings that from his perspective resemble cells, each type serving a unique purpose. It wasn't known what exactly the "Biological Chronicle" meant until it was revealed that the MU is, in fact, the Great Spirit's body (and that's when, I hope, most people realized just how ingenious the name was). So, technically, the "Bionicle" refers specifically to the life and times of Mata Nui, and his internal universe.

 

It makes me wonder, though, what if the "Bionicle" actually has an in-story role? The Great Beings essentially initiated the construction of the Mata Nui robot so that they could later on rebuild their world. That was its main purpose. What if, however, the "Bionicle" in particular, was a side-project, started by the Great Beings to monitor the activity of all the living "cells" within Mata Nui's body over a very extended period of time. Perhaps someone among the GBs (the typical nutcase outsider that no one ever takes seriously) might've have had a clue that the Matoran and everyone else would eventually develop emotions and ambitions and other seemingly unforeseen characteristics. The "Bionicle" would essentially be a vast log or database, contained on some form of external "server" and it would contain the memories (or "backup") and life experiences of every single being who has every lived in the MU.

 

It sounds insane, doesn't it? But it is exactly what a Great Being would do, IMHO. And why wouldn't they, considering it would aid them greatly in any future attempts to build new worlds and populate them. It's precisely what a genuine "demiurge" like the Great Beings would implement.

 

Let me know what you guys think.


  • 0

illuminati_bionicle_180.png


#2 Offline darthme

darthme
  • Members
  • Turaga

  • 96 posts
  •  

Posted Jun 14 2013 - 08:48 PM

So basically what you are saying is that all current Bionicle lore (that happens inside the MU) is actually known because it was recorded by a Great Being?  Like a giant compendium of history to be viewed by the Great Beings?


  • 0
6701cfca.gif
DET ER JO DANMARK, MANG!!
 
BZRPG Profiles

#3 Offline Illuminatus

Illuminatus
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Outstanding BZP Citizens
  • Mask of Light Unveiled

  • 5,172 posts
  •   Outstanding BZPower Citizen

Posted Jun 14 2013 - 08:55 PM

Well, it's not known because of that, but they might have a record kept somewhere. That's what I'm saying.


  • 0

illuminati_bionicle_180.png


#4 Offline darthme

darthme
  • Members
  • Turaga

  • 96 posts
  •  

Posted Jun 14 2013 - 09:57 PM

But, canonically, if a Glatorian or Agori on Spherus Magna were to stumble upon these information cache, they would be able to view and learn of all the MU's history since it's launch? 


  • 0
6701cfca.gif
DET ER JO DANMARK, MANG!!
 
BZRPG Profiles

#5 Offline fishers64

fishers64
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Outstanding BZP Citizens
  • Nuhvok-Kal Collapsed

  • 4,316 posts
  •   Outstanding BZPower Citizen

Posted Jun 14 2013 - 10:03 PM

Maybe this is why the Matoran had Chroniclers?


  • 0

#6 Offline Chro

Chro
  • Members
  • Emerging Mata Nuian Protector

  • 1,603 posts
  •  

Posted Jun 14 2013 - 10:27 PM

[color=#808080;]Very interesting and plausible. I don't know if the GBs would refer to it as Bionicle, but they project itself sounds like something that they- or one of them, probably Velika- would do.[/color]


Edited by Chro, Jun 15 2013 - 09:04 AM.

  • 0

CHRO IS LIKE A BEAUTIFUL PHOENIX
EXCEPT MORE PAINFUL

Brickshelf
 MOCpages
➠ flickr
YouTube


#7 Offline darthme

darthme
  • Members
  • Turaga

  • 96 posts
  •  

Posted Jun 14 2013 - 11:48 PM

[color=#808080;]Very interesting and plausible. I don't know if the GBs would refer to it as Bionicle, but they project itself sounds like something that they- or one of them, probably Velika- would do.[/color][color=#ffffff;]Key to Nongu? Hmm[/color]

 

Wait, isn't that what Velika was doing? 


  • 0
6701cfca.gif
DET ER JO DANMARK, MANG!!
 
BZRPG Profiles

#8 Offline LewaLew

LewaLew
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Retired Staff
  • Senior Staff

  • 3,372 posts
  •   Retired Staff

Posted Jun 15 2013 - 05:42 AM

GregF thinks that BIONICLE probably has a meaning in-story, mainly because Vakama referred to it in the prologues of the movies, but he didn't seem to have anything in mind as to what it would mean in-story. I remember asking him about it before COPPA, but I've got to go to work, so I don't have time to find the post.


  • 0

#9 Offline TheSkeletonMan939

TheSkeletonMan939
  • Outstanding BZPower Citizens
  • Fluidic Master Nuva

  • 1,333 posts
  •   Outstanding BZPower Citizen

Posted Jun 15 2013 - 06:25 AM

That's a pretty good idea; the Great Beings starting 'Project: BIONICLE'. Kind of how Amanda Waller started 'Project: Batman Beyond'.


  • 0

Posted Image


TheSkeletonMan939's Soundtrack Emporium!

And thanks to Black Six for all those proto boosts he gave me over the years.


#10 Offline bonesiii

bonesiii
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Forum Leaders
  • Perpetual Master of Reference

  • 18,232 posts
  •   BZP Leader

Posted Jun 15 2013 - 08:43 AM

In-story it refers to chronicles of life, and has more of a "legendary" feel to the characters inside it, rather than another GB-programmed function. But this is possible nonetheless. I prefer to think of it as much more "organic"; meaning it's the writings of witnesses of events, which people would speak out loud to tell the story sometime in the future on Spherus Magna, like reminiscing.


  • 0

#11 Offline Illuminatus

Illuminatus
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Outstanding BZP Citizens
  • Mask of Light Unveiled

  • 5,172 posts
  •   Outstanding BZPower Citizen

Posted Jun 15 2013 - 09:19 AM

Yes, but still, knowing that the Matoran are technically AI, it would be a pretty nice twist for there to be an actual, precise record of history somewhere.


  • 0

illuminati_bionicle_180.png


#12 Offline slifer3000

slifer3000
  • Members
  • Armored Protector

  • 311 posts
  •  

Posted Jun 15 2013 - 03:42 PM

Well we are all AI, are we not? We aren't programmed or anything, but Matoran are not necessarily all constructed to fulfill one particular purpose and that alone. They have a destiny, but have a random factor to them that gives them personality.  


  • 0

Want to know how to make a blind Toa cry?

                   

                       Give him a Kanohi Hau.

 

 


#13 Offline Canis Lycaon

Canis Lycaon
  • Members
  • Emerging Fluidic Master

  • 1,281 posts
  •  

Posted Jun 15 2013 - 04:48 PM

Well we are all AI, are we not? We aren't programmed or anything, but Matoran are not necessarily all constructed to fulfill one particular purpose and that alone. They have a destiny, but have a random factor to them that gives them personality.  

...

I don't even remotely understand your point. AI stands for artificial intelligence. The Matoran were created artificially, but we were born naturally.


  • 0

I used to have a banner here.

 

But that RPG is dead.

 

What now?


#14 Offline slifer3000

slifer3000
  • Members
  • Armored Protector

  • 311 posts
  •  

Posted Jun 15 2013 - 05:33 PM

Matoran are grown organically and mechanized in factories, no? 

Wasn't it said that Matoran can be made in factories? We know they are part organic, and a common theory is that their organics are grown and inserted into the Matoran. Their brains are assumed to be at least part organic, meaning at least part of their intelligence is natural. 


  • 0

Want to know how to make a blind Toa cry?

                   

                       Give him a Kanohi Hau.

 

 


#15 Offline fishers64

fishers64
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Outstanding BZP Citizens
  • Nuhvok-Kal Collapsed

  • 4,316 posts
  •   Outstanding BZPower Citizen

Posted Jun 15 2013 - 08:46 PM

GregF thinks that BIONICLE probably has a meaning in-story, mainly because Vakama referred to it in the prologues of the movies, but he didn't seem to have anything in mind as to what it would mean in-story. I remember asking him about it before COPPA, but I've got to go to work, so I don't have time to find the post.

 Affirmative.  

7) Does the word Bionicle mean anything to the Matoran, Skadi, Makuta, etc?7) To the Matoran, it does, yes, since we have heard Turaga Vakama use it in the movies 1. Does the word Bionicle mean anything to the Matoran?1) It must, as Vakama has used it in conversation in all the movies  5.What does Bionicle mean to the matorans and all beings in the matoran universe?5) "Biological chronicle"

OP Theory supported, sort of.


Edited by fishers64, Jun 15 2013 - 08:48 PM.

  • 0

#16 Offline Chro

Chro
  • Members
  • Emerging Mata Nuian Protector

  • 1,603 posts
  •  

Posted Jun 15 2013 - 11:04 PM

Matoran are grown organically and mechanized in factories, no? 

Wasn't it said that Matoran can be made in factories? We know they are part organic, and a common theory is that their organics are grown and inserted into the Matoran. Their brains are assumed to be at least part organic, meaning at least part of their intelligence is natural. 

I think so... but what does that have to do with "we are all AI, no?" or anything like that? XD


  • 0

CHRO IS LIKE A BEAUTIFUL PHOENIX
EXCEPT MORE PAINFUL

Brickshelf
 MOCpages
➠ flickr
YouTube


#17 Offline bonesiii

bonesiii
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Forum Leaders
  • Perpetual Master of Reference

  • 18,232 posts
  •   BZP Leader

Posted Jun 15 2013 - 11:20 PM

I think slifer's point was that AI, if advanced enough to be like us, could come up with the idea to write chronicles of life, all on their own? And I tend to agree (assuming I understood right), but like I said, still possible (the theory here). :P


  • 0

#18 Offline nostalgicguy

nostalgicguy
  • New Members
  • Inhabitant

  • 1 posts

Posted Jul 12 2013 - 01:13 PM

 

GregF thinks that BIONICLE probably has a meaning in-story, mainly because Vakama referred to it in the prologues of the movies, but he didn't seem to have anything in mind as to what it would mean in-story. I remember asking him about it before COPPA, but I've got to go to work, so I don't have time to find the post.

 Affirmative.  

7) Does the word Bionicle mean anything to the Matoran, Skadi, Makuta, etc?7) To the Matoran, it does, yes, since we have heard Turaga Vakama use it in the movies 1. Does the word Bionicle mean anything to the Matoran?1) It must, as Vakama has used it in conversation in all the movies  5.What does Bionicle mean to the matorans and all beings in the matoran universe?5) "Biological chronicle"

OP Theory supported, sort of.

 

I thought that BIONICLE was short for BIO-mechaNICLE


  • 0

#19 Offline bonesiii

bonesiii
  • Premier Member
  • Premier Forum Leaders
  • Perpetual Master of Reference

  • 18,232 posts
  •   BZP Leader

Posted Jul 12 2013 - 05:22 PM

I thought that BIONICLE was short for BIO-mechaNICLE

That's not how "mechanical" is spelled.


  • 0

#20 Offline Makuta Matata

Makuta Matata
  • Members
  • Fluidic Master Nuva

  • 1,361 posts
  •  

Posted Jul 13 2013 - 03:01 PM

It's unlikely, but that would be the coolest plot twist ever.


  • 0

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)


#21 Offline Just Norik

Just Norik
  • Members
  • Emerging Fluidic Master

  • 1,264 posts
  •  

Posted Jul 21 2013 - 10:34 PM

Very Possible. The Mata-Nui Robot was supposed to revive Spherus Magna after a time, and maybe the GBs wanted to see how civilisations would evolve inside this covenient Petri Dish.


  • 0

MTG Dual Colour

http://www.bzpower.c...c=9733&p=547065My BZPower RPG profiles.


#22 Online Geardirector

Geardirector
  • Members
  • Pahrak-Kal Attacks!

  • 2,662 posts
  •  

Posted Jul 22 2013 - 01:21 AM

 

[color=#808080;]Very interesting and plausible. I don't know if the GBs would refer to it as Bionicle, but they project itself sounds like something that they- or one of them, probably Velika- would do.[/color][color=#ffffff;]Key to Nongu? Hmm[/color]

 

Wait, isn't that what Velika was doing? 

 

 

Velika was just observing, keeping an eye on things.


  • 0

#23 Offline Just Norik

Just Norik
  • Members
  • Emerging Fluidic Master

  • 1,264 posts
  •  

Posted Jul 22 2013 - 08:28 AM

Then he started to... you know.
  • 0

MTG Dual Colour

http://www.bzpower.c...c=9733&p=547065My BZPower RPG profiles.





0 user(s) are browsing this forum

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users