Video Game General (Official)

[Terminus]

I just remembered I have Bioshock. And I need to start it. It's one of those games I own that I've had for a while that I haven't really touched yet, I think I got about five minutes in, shut it off, and just haven't played it again. Of course, my copies of Uncharted 2&3 and The Ico &Shadow of The Collosus Collection are still in the plastic, so I've at least played more of it than those.

 

I really should get working on my backlog... Although I'd like to get through the games I'm playing at the moment first...

 

Also, I couldn't really get into Skyrim, but I really like the modding community. Even if you don't like vanilla Skyrim, you can find mods can make it appeal to pretty much anyone.

[Pupwa21]

Speaking of RPGs, Fallout New vegas is a good one for (trying to) immerse yourself into the game. It's simple really, You make your appearance, answer a few questions to determine your stats, Change the results to fit the Character you want to roleplay as and done. The only thing that's set in stone is that you do courier jobs at sometimes.

 

On the other hand, Fallout 3 gives you little freedom in terms of believing the Character is you. A lot is set in stone like; This is where you grew up, this is your room, this is a book you played with, that's your mom and dad and things of the like.

[Dapper-Sama]

Yeah, I really liked New Vegas for exactly that reason. What I really love is that the MC's age isn't locked at eighteen.

[Archer Vonn]

i hate you guys for mentioning new veggies i love that game so much i dont know how to talk about it anymore

 

my feelings toward it are just feelings at this point

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Honestly, Skyrim in general is a pretty mediocre game, I feel. It's only really worth investing time into if you're new to the genre or really have an itch for a CRPG- otherwise it's just... flat, and the lore can't really save it as much as it saves the other games. I mean, yeah, Arena and Daggerfall are both very clunky and awkward games even for their day, but there was a charm to it that I feel Skyrim is seriously lacking in- I never feel truly immersed into the game's world, no matter what perspective I used. Ah well.

 

I agree wholeheartedly if talking about vanilla Skyrim; thankfully, mods like Interesting NPCs have redeemed the Skyrim experience for me, where else I would have dropped it after my first playthrough. The power of mods is a truly liberating thing.

 

Where vanilla Vampires may be pitiful things, with slap-on-the-wrist penalties and little else to make them unique, I can find a mod that makes Vampirism a truly harrowing and dangerous experience, while granting far greater personalization and development of Vampiric powers. Where vanilla NPCs may be duller than a talking animatronic, I can find a variety of NPC and follower mods that provide well-written dialogue and quests, nearly on par with the follower quests of Fallout: New Vegas. Where in vanilla, loot is abundant and merchants merciful to a fault, with economy and loot overhaul mods I can make finding a piece of Ebony armor a truly special experience, equally unlikely, but possible, be my character level 1, or 100. Where in vanilla my PC is the Usain Bolt powered by a perpetual motion machine, with mods I can make him or her truly mortal, with needs such as sleep and sustenance, and a far lower run speed and carry weight. Where vanilla Destruction consisted mostly of "Get Impact, dual cast", with some overhaul and Spell mods I can turn it into an interesting experience, where every Spell has its niche.

 

Unfortunately, many quest mods require that I finish vanilla quests before they become available, so in my current attempt at a playthrough I've finished slogging through the Winterhold questline so I can get to The Last Altar's quest. It's so annoying that I have little time to RP my development into someone worthy of the title Archmage, when the whole College questline (though not technically timed) screams "Hurry up before something awful happens!" to the PC at every turn.

 

It's a pity, though; I enjoy installing mods and making them play together nicely, but I fear that the time spent finding, researching, making, and tweaking mods is nearly neck-to-neck with time spent actually playing the game.

Edited August 9, 2014 by The Kumquat Alchemist

[Archer Vonn]

i hate the 'modded skyrim so gud' argument. like its correct but its so oblivious to the fallacy that skyrim is still a pile of dirt that you put some silver on top of. like, lets be real guys modded skyrim still has awful writing, awful quests, and poor attention to detail, and generally uninspired level design. its mods might not, but skyrim itself is still awful. morrowind was a great game that was modded and look at how well that turned out. morrowind modders are still active and they were so active they made a new engine for it.

[Removed297]

i hate the 'modded skyrim so gud' argument. like its correct but its so oblivious to the fallacy that skyrim is still a pile of dirt that you put some silver on top of. like, lets be real guys modded skyrim still has awful writing, awful quests, and poor attention to detail, and generally uninspired level design. its mods might not, but skyrim itself is still awful. morrowind was a great game that was modded and look at how well that turned out. morrowind modders are still active and they were so active they made a new engine for it.

 

 

When I say that vanilla Skyrim is awful in comparison to the glory of modded, I do not mean that mods solve all of vanilla's problems; I mean that I have modded my game so heavily that I can ignore nearly all the vanilla quest and NPC content in favor of the better provided by mods. The only thing modding can't fix in Skyrim are the vanilla quests and NPC dialogue; though indeed a large chunk of the game, a simple alternate start mod can help a would-be avoider of vanilla weasel their way out of the MQ.

 

I wish no anger between us for a misunderstanding; I agree with you that a bit of silver on a pile of dirt will do no good. However, I've found so much I deem silver that anything I deem filth is well-hidden. Perhaps your justified love of Morrowind will overshadow what good there may be in Skyrim, and you would never be able to mod Skyrim into something worth your while. However, I and many others find Skyrim's world map, aesthetics, and general lore a perfectly acceptable template for our better-written mod adventures.

 

 

Speaking of RPGs, Fallout New vegas is a good one for (trying to) immerse yourself into the game. It's simple really, You make your appearance, answer a few questions to determine your stats, Change the results to fit the Character you want to roleplay as and done. The only thing that's set in stone is that you do courier jobs at sometimes.

 

On the other hand, Fallout 3 gives you little freedom in terms of believing the Character is you. A lot is set in stone like; This is where you grew up, this is your room, this is a book you played with, that's your mom and dad and things of the like.

 

I can sympathize there. My first Fallout RPG was NV. Perhaps not the best starting place for the Fallout games, but certainly better than FO3. Playing one and then the other was a jarring transition.

Edited August 10, 2014 by The Kumquat Alchemist

[Pupwa21]

As I always say somewhere else.

Mods can't fix a broken game.

It just disguises it.

[Archer Vonn]

alright just to be clear i wasn't annoyed at you or nothing you're hardly the first person to have that opinion

[Hodor]

 

i hate the 'modded skyrim so gud' argument. like its correct but its so oblivious to the fallacy that skyrim is still a pile of dirt that you put some silver on top of. like, lets be real guys modded skyrim still has awful writing, awful quests, and poor attention to detail, and generally uninspired level design. its mods might not, but skyrim itself is still awful. morrowind was a great game that was modded and look at how well that turned out. morrowind modders are still active and they were so active they made a new engine for it.

 

 

When I say that vanilla Skyrim is awful in comparison to the glory of modded, I do not mean that mods solve all of vanilla's problems; I mean that I have modded my game so heavily that I can ignore nearly all the vanilla quest and NPC content in favor of the better provided by mods. The only thing modding can't fix in Skyrim are the vanilla quests and NPC dialogue; though indeed a large chunk of the game, a simple alternate start mod can help a would-be avoider of vanilla weasel their way out of the MQ.

 

I wish no anger between us for a misunderstanding; I agree with you that a bit of silver on a pile of dirt will do no good. However, I've found so much I deem silver that anything I deem filth is well-hidden. Perhaps your justified love of Morrowind will overshadow what good there may be in Skyrim, and you would never be able to mod Skyrim into something worth your while. However, I and many others find Skyrim's world map, aesthetics, and general lore a perfectly acceptable template for our better-written mod adventures.

 

 

Skyrim is not like an Obsidian or Trokia game, where the game itself is good, and just incredibly buggy and prone to crashing. Skyrim itself is just an incredibly bland, mediocre game- if it weren't for the name 'Elder Scrolls', it would've been forgotten about in a year or two nor would it have gotten the review scores it did. The gameplay is bland and uninteresting, level design is still unremarkable, and everything about it is still just mediocre.

 

It doesn't matter if I can mod in the Super Best Friends to be my party while I RP as Guts from Berserk, with Kenny Loggins blasting. The game is still, at its core, mediocre and no amount of mods- no matter how good- will fix that. Especially if you're playing the game on a console.

[Dapper-Sama]

I lost interest in Skyrim really quickly, and I kinda wish they'll use Oblivion's character creation in TES VI.

Edited August 11, 2014 by Dapper-Sama

[Hodor]

So I picked up a copy of Asura's Wrath the other day and started playing it.

 

It's like Gurren Lagann had a baby with Exalted and why didn't I buy this sooner?

[Just A Dot]

Do ANY of you own Playstation All Star Battle Royal? I'm close to Platting the game, and I need to play a match with someone on my friends list for one of the few trophies I still don't have.

[Dapper-Sama]

Nope, don't own it. Sorry.

 

I started Batman: Arkham Asylum last weekend. If the others are anything like the first, I'm really interested in this series.

[Manducus]

Arkham City was pretty enjoyable, but there were some moments where I wanted to throw my controller at the TV.

[Terminus]

How is PS All-Stars? I was in the beta ages ago (I jumped in a few hours before it closed) and thought it was meh, but now that it's under $20, I might consider it.

Edited August 12, 2014 by Terminus

[Dapper-Sama]

@Kai: What about Origins?

[Just A Dot]

How is PS All-Stars? I was in the beta ages ago (I jumped in a few hours before it closed) and thought it was meh, but now that it's under $20, I might consider it.

It's like Smash Bros., but half the speed, with a bunch of nobodies in the roster, very little balance, stupid AI, and really easy combos.

 

It's really fun to just mess around in with friends, but it's way too slow and broken to take seriously XD

 

Though it made me interested in Gravity Rush and MediEvil, so, much like Smash Bros., I guess it did it's job of advertising other series to me.

[Fastcar800]

Just throwing this out there...

Need For Madness is an awesome car racing/smashing game created by Omar Waly. I think you guys would like it. Go check it out!  http://www.needformadness.com/

[Dapper-Sama]

X-Wing? Batmobile? How and why?

[Hodor]

http://pathfinder.obsidian.net/

 

Obsidian landed the Pathfinder license.

[Dapper-Sama]

An RPG adaptation of a tabletop RPG? Gee, that's never happened before.

 

Nah, in all seriousness, this is pretty good news.

[Hodor]

Yeah, it is. I'm not much of a fan of Pathfinder, but I really hope they come out with something great.

 

Edit: Just finished Asura's Wrath. My god, that was an experience that I loved every minute of. Just need to get the DLC and to unlock the 'hidden' episode.

Edited August 13, 2014 by Elric of Melnibone

[Archer Vonn]

Just throwing this out there...

Need For Madness is an awesome car racing/smashing game created by Omar Waly. I think you guys would like it. Go check it out!  http://www.needformadness.com/

 

yooOOOOOooo

 

this was my favourite game in like the seventh grade. they made a second one right?

[Dapper-Sama]

Does Garry's Mod need any additional software to run (i.e. Source engine games)?

[Pupwa21]

You need at least one Source engine game that isn't free.

 

The SDK's don't work with it.

[Dapper-Sama]

I thought that would be the case.

 

Half-Life 2 or Counter-Strike?

[Pupwa21]

Both can work and adds more content for you to use.

 

If your Counterstrike is the Orignal no, no, it can not work.

 

Also, I don't think HL:source would work for some reason.

Edited August 15, 2014 by Pupwa21

[Dapper-Sama]

What about Black Mesa, then?

[Pupwa21]

Not even offical or on steam.

[Dapper-Sama]

I thought it was on Steam.

 

Bah, whatevs. I'm getting CS.

[Terminus]

PSN is down (again) because of hackers (again)!

 

The good thing is that these hackers seem to be more of the internet troll variety than the actually-out-to-do-anything variety.

[Hodor]

If this has anything to do with that 'leak' of Fez's internal documents, I'm going to laugh.

[Wazdakka]

Notice that Playstation's feeling the heat on these recent hax.

 

Hmph.

 

Karma?

[Hodor]

I really doubt it's anything karmic. If anything, it probably has to do with some drama going on in the gaming community as a whole, which included the internal files for all versions of Fez (including documents relating to Steam, Xbox Live, and PSN) being released.

[Terminus]

So apparently they're DDoS attacks, which seem to only affect the service only insofar as users can't really use it, it's not a data breach or anything. And also Sony wasn't the only one affected, I know at least blizzard was also affected.

 

So so far nothing close to the PSN blackout of 2011 at the moment.

[Pupwa21]

What are you all talking about?

 

My PS3 works just fine.

[Terminus]

PSN was down earlier today.

 

Functionality has been restored a decent amount (as far as I can tell, PS3 is fine now, just played some Crysis 3), but some things still aren't working yet (I'm noticing this mainly on vita).

 

I'm kinda hoping that this means tomorrow's scheduled maintenance happened today.

[Archer Vonn]

Notice that Playstation's feeling the heat on these recent hax.

 

Hmph.

 

Karma?

 

"wahh my console is being bullied just like we did last gen"

[Terminus]

IT'S FINALLY HAPPENING!!!

 

Link confirmed for Mario Kart 8.

 

Glad the good news keeps on coming after those Smash roster leaks.