Bzprpg News And Discussion

[Lara White]

I can buy a blackness illusion.A rough calculation: the village map is about four inches long on my screen. If from at its widest point it's 200m, that means that there's 50m per inch. The treeline is (eyeballing it) about 1/2 an inch away. That puts the treeline at 25 meters (or for us imperial-using folks, 82 feet) away. Somewhat distant, but someone can cross that on foot pretty fast, not even considering a Toa's average foot speed.

[They]

"ooh look at me and my power: squid ink! Blah"It's super not effective.

[Nuju Metru]

Okay, I'll end this Mahiki discussion with some official guidelines for the mask, which I guess needed establishing.The below description is pulled from BS01, and the important parts are bolded:

The Kanohi Mahiki is the Mask of Illusion. The Great version allows its user to shapeshift to a limited degree or to cast illusions. The user can shapeshift into forms of similar mass and imitate voices, but cannot copy any powers the original has. The Noble version does not let the user shapeshift. Instead, it only allows them to cast illusions. The Kanohi Rode will see through its usage, while a Kanohi Elda will allow its user to sense a being hidden by an illusion.

I have addressed the "shapeshifting to a limited degree" matter twice this week via PMs, and I've said the same thing both times. A Mahiki user, when casting an illusion upon themselves, is effectively visually shapeshifting. Unless somebody tried to touch the Mahiki user, they would have no idea that said Mahiki user was not what they appeared to be; this is the power of the mask. However, when shifted, a Mahiki user inherits none of the powers of what they are imitating, physical or otherwise. This means that when it comes to imitating Rahi, flight, sharp claws, strength, and any other perks of said Rahi, may not be used. This isn't the Mask of Kindred, after all. The Mahiki allows its user to perform visual illusions upon themselves, and only visual illusions. They do not become what they appear to be when their mask is in action. Insofar as invisibility/camouflage goes: you cannot cast illusions that imitate invisibility - the Mahiki also isn't the Huna/Volitak. What one can do to camouflage oneself is imitate an object of similar mass that would not be out-of-place in the setting, or paint one's body with rough, suitable color swatches, like a real-world camouflage outfit. The latter, however, is a very crude technique; unless a Mahiki user was looking behind themselves the entire time and concentrating heavily, they would not be able to "paint" their bodies to directly resemble the setting behind them, and certainly not in a convincing way upon any scrutiny. The power of the Mahiki when it comes to self-illusion lies in its ability to quickly learn three-dimensional forms and let their user recreate them convincingly, not in its ability to turn the user into a veritable scanner for the settings that lie behind them and then impeccably paint those settings onto its user.The Mahiki is the Mask of Illusion, and it is a non-combatative mask. No illusions cast by the Mahiki user can be damaging in any physical way - no blinding. The Mahiki can be used for good or evil, but it is not a weapon. It is a tool of deception, not one of violence; the most damage you could feasibly do would be deeply shock or emotionally damage an opponent by showing them something disturbing. Illusions of this nature, though, are of course cast in the real world and not on the mental plane. The larger and more complex an illusion being cast by a Mahiki user is, the more energy and concentration it will take to maintain. Visual shapeshifting, as described above, does require constant attention by the user to remain convincing, too.Also: in order to imitate another being's body/voice effectively, a Mahiki user must have already actively observed/heard that being. The mask will pick up and memorize images or voices when the user concertedly decides to do so. Without having seen or heard whatever it is they're trying to imitate, the Mahiki will only be able to project illusions as effective as the imagination of its user - in other words, far from perfectly. If you've been playing your Mahiki character in a way that violates any of these new, standardized rules for the mask's use, please begin to adhere to them now. Thanks for your cooperation!

[Lara White]

Alright, I suppose that makes sense. One question though: if the background were nonmoving (say, a wall) and the person had already looked at it beforehand, would they need to keep tabs on it to stay invisible?(I did state that Dail is skilled with her mask and element, so I think it should be okay...)

[Nuju Metru]

You aren't invisible. You're basically a chameleon, at best. Anybody who looked at the wall from the side would see your wall-colored self standing up next to it. I would say such a tactic would only be effective at distance, and if you weren't moving, and if you had already looked at the wall.

[Lara White]

Meh.So wait, why does it work for shapeshifting?

[Nuju Metru]

Because part of the Mahiki's mask power is being able to imitate beings, not imitate walls.

[Krayzikk]

Because part of the Mahiki's mask power is being able to imitate beings, not imitate walls.

Well, a wall can be a being.... Remember in Bionicle Adventures #2, the creature they encountered in the Archives....[geek/] Edited August 16, 2012 by Krayzikk Champion of RPGs

[Highly Suspicious Person]

Well, a wall can be a being.... Remember in Bionicle Adventures #2, the creature they encountered in the Archives....

That thing was only pretending to be a wall.

[25K Now!]

How long would it take to feasibly construct a sort of car-thing with wheels that rotate due to one pedalling?

[Highly Suspicious Person]

How long would it take to feasibly construct a sort of car-thing with wheels that rotate due to one pedalling?

Does the person making the car-thing have a blueprint/design as well as the right resources and tools?

[25K Now!]

I have no idea. Say Nuju, do bicycles exist?

[Constructelf]

So, if you turned into a flying creature, would you be able to fly using wings or would you need to use another already existing power (in my case, gravity control) to fly?Also, I pm'd you about a possible rahi arc.

Edited August 16, 2012 by Constructman

[Highly Suspicious Person]

So, if you turned into a flying creature, would you be able to fly or would you need to use another already existing power (in my case, gravity control) to fly?Also, I pm'd you about a possible rahi arc.

Using a Mask of Illusion? No, you can't fly. If you were good enough with gravity powers you probably could though.

[25K Now!]

Or use a Mask of Flight.

[Toa Of Virtues]

I am making my first big storyline, and I would like someone to be a part of it. The character is a Skakdi/Vortixx character that has the personality of the head of a mafia. I will provide a small backstory, but other than that, you can be creative. PM me if you are interested. I would make it myself, but I already have too many of my characters involved in the storyline.

Edited August 16, 2012 by Toa Of Virtues

[Hanako Herupa]

The ones who want to attack Xa-Koro.They aren't on the real target...

I prefer the term "liberation" you see we are "liberating" Xa-Koro from the clutch of common criminals and placing it into the hands of people who know how to maintain order.It's a takeover, not characters throwing Madu Cabolos into every building and lighting the village on fire. That's going against everything Kino said. The purpose is to make the Makuta followers seem like good guys. Or at least people that can provide good security to citizens. Kino would prefer a nonviolent seizure of power, but she knows that's not going to happen. So she's gonna stack the deck as best she can, hide cards up her sleeve and only play them if she needs them.

[otter]

The ones who want to attack Xa-Koro.They aren't on the real target...

I prefer the term "liberation" you see we are "liberating" Xa-Koro from the clutch of common criminals and placing it into the hands of people who know how to maintain order.It's a takeover, not characters throwing Madu Cabolos into every building and lighting the village on fire. That's going against everything Kino said. The purpose is to make the Makuta followers seem like good guys. Or at least people that can provide good security to citizens. Kino would prefer a nonviolent seizure of power, but she knows that's not going to happen. So she's gonna stack the deck as best she can, hide cards up her sleeve and only play them if she needs them.

...You completely ignored the rest of my post, and decided to go off on something completely random.Call it "Liberating," sure, but you still have to attack something within the city to get it done, and there's always going to be people who think of it as an attack on them and not the others. It always happens, real life and RPG life.But still.That first part I said has me slightly annoyed.

[Toa Of Virtues]

Well, I'm leaaving for a small trip, so my RP-ing will fall a bit, but I think I may be able to get a few posts in. Later!

[Highly Suspicious Person]

Well, I'm leaaving for a small trip, so my RP-ing will fall a bit, but I think I may be able to get a few posts in. Later!

bai bai

[Relapse]

Guys, guys, guys.The attack on Xa-Koro will have Telric. You have to at least give it that.

Edited August 16, 2012 by Shadow Guardian Mr. Isles

[otter]

Guys, guys, guys.The attack on Xa-Koro will have Telric. You have to at least give it that.

You're wanted in Ga-Wahi. Bllietes, or whatever his name is.He's got to respond to Xilecki and Cylund, and probably Sulov at some point.

[Ghosthands]

Okay, I'll end this Mahiki discussion with some official guidelines for the mask, which I guess needed establishing.The below description is pulled from BS01, and the important parts are bolded:

The Kanohi Mahiki is the Mask of Illusion. The Great version allows its user to shapeshift to a limited degree or to cast illusions. The user can shapeshift into forms of similar mass and imitate voices, but cannot copy any powers the original has. The Noble version does not let the user shapeshift. Instead, it only allows them to cast illusions. The Kanohi Rode will see through its usage, while a Kanohi Elda will allow its user to sense a being hidden by an illusion.

I have addressed the "shapeshifting to a limited degree" matter twice this week via PMs, and I've said the same thing both times. A Mahiki user, when casting an illusion upon themselves, is effectively visually shapeshifting. Unless somebody tried to touch the Mahiki user, they would have no idea that said Mahiki user was not what they appeared to be; this is the power of the mask. However, when shifted, a Mahiki user inherits none of the powers of what they are imitating, physical or otherwise. This means that when it comes to imitating Rahi, flight, sharp claws, strength, and any other perks of said Rahi, may not be used. This isn't the Mask of Kindred, after all. The Mahiki allows its user to perform visual illusions upon themselves, and only visual illusions. They do not become what they appear to be when their mask is in action.Insofar as invisibility/camouflage goes: you cannot cast illusions that imitate invisibility - the Mahiki also isn't the Huna/Volitak. What one can do to camouflage oneself is imitate an object of similar mass that would not be out-of-place in the setting, or paint one's body with rough, suitable color swatches, like a real-world camouflage outfit. The latter, however, is a very crude technique; unless a Mahiki user was looking behind themselves the entire time and concentrating heavily, they would not be able to "paint" their bodies to directly resemble the setting behind them, and certainly not in a convincing way upon any scrutiny. The power of the Mahiki when it comes to self-illusion lies in its ability to quickly learn three-dimensional forms and let their user recreate them convincingly, not in its ability to turn the user into a veritable scanner for the settings that lie behind them and then impeccably paint those settings onto its user.The Mahiki is the Mask of Illusion, and it is a non-combatative mask. No illusions cast by the Mahiki user can be damaging in any physical way - no blinding. The Mahiki can be used for good or evil, but it is not a weapon. It is a tool of deception, not one of violence; the most damage you could feasibly do would be deeply shock or emotionally damage an opponent by showing them something disturbing. Illusions of this nature, though, are of course cast in the real world and not on the mental plane.The larger and more complex an illusion being cast by a Mahiki user is, the more energy and concentration it will take to maintain. Visual shapeshifting, as described above, does require constant attention by the user to remain convincing, too.Also: in order to imitate another being's body/voice effectively, a Mahiki user must have already actively observed/heard that being. The mask will pick up and memorize images or voices when the user concertedly decides to do so. Without having seen or heard whatever it is they're trying to imitate, the Mahiki will only be able to project illusions as effective as the imagination of its user - in other words, far from perfectly.If you've been playing your Mahiki character in a way that violates any of these new, standardized rules for the mask's use, please begin to adhere to them now. Thanks for your cooperation!

Wait, but things like claws and wings etc are not powers. They are physical attributes... :L

[otter]

That's why he put that "Physical or Otherwise" up there, Ghosty.

[Ghosthands]

Still not 'powers' though :PBut I see Nuju's point. All I'm debating is his choice of wording.

[Katuko]

He's saying that the mask does not physically alter the user, and I would be inclined to agree. It just creates a fake visual appearance.

[Friar Tuck]

Still not 'powers' though :PBut I see Nuju's point. All I'm debating is his choice of wording.

I think his choice of wording was fine. If you're having problems then you're really splitting hairs on this one. He is one-hundred-percent right and I agree completely.

[shadow pridak money gang]

Guys, guys, guys.The attack on Xa-Koro will have Telric. You have to at least give it that.

We don't have to give you anything. You kids and your sense of entitlement.:3-Teezy

[Relapse]

Guys, guys, guys.The attack on Xa-Koro will have Telric. You have to at least give it that.

We don't have to give you anything. You kids and your sense of entitlement.:3-Teezy

oh you

[The Swimming Beard]

Is anyone open for interaction?

[Katuko]

There. The ILS is out of the lock-down. Now we can get moving again.

[BenLuke]

Huzzah! Finally we can get things moving. . .

[Ghosthands]

Time for Echelon to mobilise his forces

[shadow pridak money gang]

oh you

You know how I do.On topic: To those involved in the Matoran plot, I've been given permission to bunny Stannis along and Nuju's asked me to get the rest of the team together, so EW's absence isn't going to leave us hanging at all.-Teezy

[Constructelf]

Ghosthands, can you pick Ira up at the shrine?

[Ghosthands]

Yeah. I'll head there after I've conferred with the people at the Academy, to pick up anyone else who's willing to help with the ILS attack.Just for future reference, it would have been better to PM me there

Edited August 16, 2012 by Ghosthands

[~Xemnas~]

Okay people in the "Anarchy", I've moved us to Ko-Wahi, for your reference.

[otter]

Hey, wait. Are you people going to Iegasa's shrine, or to Kalen's temple-thing?If it's the second...that can't be right.EDIT: Nope, nevermind. Just read through and found out that you're goin' right.

Edited August 16, 2012 by Kal Grochi

[Ghosthands]

The second, because Echelon told them where to go...*hides from Grochi's wrath*

[~Xemnas~]

Hey, wait. Are you people going to Iegasa's shrine, or to Kalen's temple-thing?If it's the second...that can't be right.

We're going to the academy. Like GH told us to.