Bzprpg News And Discussion

[~Xemnas~]

In which I shamelessly interrupt something.

This is gonna be hilarious. I really want to see how Echelon reacts.

Fairly important post.

EchelonWat r u doinEchelonStahp.

[shadow pridak money gang]

dor and heuanitogether againi have waited long time for this moment-Teezy

[Snelly]

Well, even though I could of had Skyra easily inside the shield when it was created...I decided to be nice and have him stuck outside so he can't interfere.But, this is a really awesome twist to the Mark Bearer plot I must say.

[- JL -]

Woot woot. Heuani and Echelon finally meet.This gon be interesting.

[Snelly]

Skyra finally gets to see Heuani...I've been waiting for that for a while.

[Constructelf]

Why did Heuani crash the party again?

[shadow pridak money gang]

:3-Teezy

[Eyru]

Why did Heuani crash the party again?

To meet Dorian, and begin the greatest love story of all time.DorxHeuani <3

[~Xemnas~]

Why did Heuani crash the party again?

Because he's going to yell at Echelon for being foolish and trying to get immortality and leaving the other Makuta servants. I think.EDIT: No, Eyru and Tyler, Heuani's too cool for Dorian. =P Kidding, kidding Edited September 29, 2012 by Toa Xemnas of Crystal

[shadow pridak money gang]

deuani 5ever-Teezy

[Ghosthands]

I always suspected this would happen XD Tbh, I half expected to be smited the moment Echelon revealed the Master Mark....I can't respond yet as 1) I've got a very important report to write and 2) I want to give Legion a fair chance to post, but I look forward to seeing how this plays out, especially since Heuani has got involved.

[Axilus Prime]

Now the last I checked, the only one to ever say Give Me Your Face was one of the greatest movie heroes ever.

Ha ha ha ha-Oh wait, your serious, now I'll laugh harder- Ha ha ha!Regardless of whatever mediocre action movies he's actually from, the BZPRPG version is a villain, last I checked.Anyway, it's been really interesting watching the Makr Bearer plot move towards it's climax. I'm sure this is going to be one of those things we'll remember for a while.

The BZPRPG version isn't a villain. You're confusing Optimus and Nemesis. They were two separate beings. One had an entire backstory of war with an adoptive brother who believed he had the right to start shooting people and the like. He then killed, but exclusively killed only the Phantoms, who are pretty much pure evil without that trace of good that makes us all people.Then he joined the ILS and became a much more peaceful person, like he wanted to be. Then his twin burned the place and ran away.

[BenLuke]

I was being facetious, but I forget how bad sarcasm carries over the internet, whoops. I do remember the whole evil twin thing, I just like interpreting OPTIMEUS PRIAMEE!!! Tahuva as a smug, quote "justice" unquote obsessed maniac egomaniac who thinks of himself as far more heroic then he actually is.Which is a perfectly accurate description, by the way.

Edited September 29, 2012 by BenLuke-116

[Axilus Prime]

You forgot, he never says he's a hero, he says he's a fighter for peace. Never claims a load of good achievements to his name (Though he does have like two or three)but he has never done anything villainous in his life.Calm is more like it. Smug doesn't do it, since he doesn't view everyone as lesser beings, and he does show exasperation when being irritated.

[Wotz]

but he has never done anything villainous in his life.

Other than like, kill loads of people and be overpowered :3

[BenLuke]

but he has never done anything villainous in his life.

What about that time he torturing a prisoner solely for the sake of sick kicks (Great, no it's all coming back. . .)? Or have you done your best to suppress that fiasco like the rest of us? Anyhow, this is getting a bit one-on-one-y and flame warish, so we might want to just drop it.

[Axilus Prime]

He only killed soulless monsters with no trace of good in them whatsoever. They're so evil they don't even count as people. (By character design, therefore I would know.)He didn't participate in the torture thing.Being overpowered wasn't the char's fault, that was mine. Then again, I stopped doing that a looooong time ago.Ok, I suppose we drop it like you said now, unless someone wants to PM me regarding this post.

[AuRon the champion]

I see a problem with the whole "Good guys killing other people" idea. They are supposed to be Toa, dark future or not, you don't simply kill someone and not loose any sleep over it.

[BenLuke]

Killing other people is, by definition, evil. Sometimes a necessary evil, true, but still evil.

[Franco]

Killing other people is, by definition, evil. Sometimes a necessary evil, true, but still evil.

Now this is just more of a tangent talking about ethics than discussion of the game. I'd advise we all stay on topic and drop this subject. Edited September 29, 2012 by World's #1 Dad

[Constructelf]

So, changing the subject, what exactly do toa of crystal do?

[Axilus Prime]

I just did. Now, back on topic, can anyone here say that on-topic, given the chance at the conclusion of BZPRPG '12 or '13 or whatever year Nuju decides, given the choice between killing Makuta, or sealing him away for a few years then have him re-emerge, slaughter thousands, and establish a dictatorship--or try to--and kill everyone in his path, making the rest bow for all eternity, you would not kill him on the spot and lose not a wink of sleep?EDIT: They form crystals such as diamond, quartz, etc. Except that the crystal is usually unspecified and of such ridiculous hardness that one with a Pakari is challenged attempting to break it.

Edited September 29, 2012 by TNG Prime

[otter]

So, changing the subject, what exactly do toa of crystal do?

They be Toa of Crystal. Means they control the element of crystal.Not much else. They're basically the same as every other Toa. Edited September 29, 2012 by Kal Grochi

[Constructelf]

So what is crystal in game? I'm assuming that their element would work similar to stone?

[~Xemnas~]

I just did. Now, back on topic, can anyone here say that on-topic, given the chance at the conclusion of BZPRPG '12 or '13 or whatever year Nuju decides, given the choice between killing Makuta, or sealing him away for a few years then have him re-emerge, slaughter thousands, and establish a dictatorship--or try to--and kill everyone in his path, making the rest bow for all eternity, you would not kill him on the spot and lose not a wink of sleep?EDIT: They form crystals such as diamond, quartz, etc. Except that the crystal is usually unspecified and of such ridiculous hardness that one with a Pakari is challenged attempting to break it.

Well, actually, there is really no crystal that a Pakari can't break. Even diamond, with it's inability to be scratched by anything other than diamond, only has a moderate strength and this thus easily broken.On another note, now that I think about it, if a Toa of Iron and a Toa of Crystal work together, they could possibly create a diamond-edged sword. That would be pretty neat. Someone has to try this. EDIT: Yes, Constructman, Crystal is a legit element (even though it's misspelled as "cystal" in the Tuck's post. ). It works in a smiliar way to stone, yes. Edited September 29, 2012 by Toa Xemnas of Crystal

[Axilus Prime]

That's why I said challenged.

[otter]

I've always gone with crystal being able to affect anything with a crystalline lattice structure, to an extent. Obviously, the power would work best on true crystals, such as gemstones and what not, but it would also work similar to the way that all the elements can, to an extent, tie in with other elements-such as, with quite a bit of effort, it could slightly alter the crystal structure of a metallic object, for example.

[Ghosthands]

TNG, Merror would certainly choose to imprison Makuta rather than kill him. What did the Toa Metru do, for example, after defeating Teridax? The Toa Code forbids killing opponents for a reason; that reason is that killing an enemy only shows that you are stooping to their level.

[Palm]

Mark Bearer Plot Updates-

The MasterThe End

[Axilus Prime]

If killing makes people villains, you just called every soldier or veteran in every country in the world a villain. There are beings who can never be changed, even in the real world. There are thousands that are either without conscience, or have suppressed it to the point that only in death will they see that they were wrong, and for a fleeting split second. Adolf Hitler, anyone? And we all know Makuta's supposed to be even worse than he is.

[Palm]

This is a Bionicle game.Not real life.Don't compare imaginary morals designed for a children's story to real life morals.

[otter]

Save the ethics debate for the PMs, people. With everything going on in the blogs right now, we don't need it to spread over here-especially when it's this off-topic.How about, instead, we all decide to comment on the MB plot, nyah?I wanna see what's in that room.

[Axilus Prime]

And yet we all RP things that aren't suitable for children. And I don't see shows teaching children that the military is evil and psychotic. This game even has an emphasis on realism. (With physics and emotions, of course. No such thing as Toa in real life, that's not what I meant.)That last Mark Bearer post confused me. How did either of them get Master Marks, and did Echelon just die, or what?

[otter]

I feel oddly ignored.This is why I don't normally tell people to take it to PMs. But I guess I'll do it again:Take it to PM.

[Axilus Prime]

Really? Do you now? Apparently me talking about the Mark Bearer plot doesn't count as people talking about the Mark Bearer plot.Seriously, can someone answer me on that?

Edited September 29, 2012 by TNG Prime

[otter]

*rolls eyes*I think it has more to do with the fact that you continued that ethics debate, no? But no matter, at least you are commenting on something more important to the game.And I get the feeling that numerous important things are going to happen now. Not specifically for the MB's, either. Not all of them, anyways.

[Wotz]

dat dorian post

[shadow pridak money gang]

-Mark Bearer Plot Update-A Lesson in Romantics-Teezy

[Razgriz]

Totally stable

[Constructelf]

Wut?