BULiK Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Trust me, that was crazy.Also, I think Toa Temporal learned today that you can't escape PC guards very easily. Hopefully he surrenders so that we don't have some annoying, huge fight.Yeah...I think someone needs to explain to him a bit more about the RPG. We did a good job with KopakaMidak, so maybe this new guy can learn some more the easy way, instead of the hard way. Visit www.BZPRPG.com to view my project of archiving BZPower's RPGs, and also access the BZPower Roleplaying Wiki BZPRPG Profiles - Ghosts Of Bara Magna Profiles Exo-Force RPG Profiles - Six Kingdoms: Apocalypse (Knichou, Berys, Arnex, The Taku, Exuze) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25K Now! Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Tabby! I choose you! http://vimeo.com/198967785 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Well, Kal's toa can limit the damage, and it's like the entire Guard against one Bipolar toa. And I'm sorry, but he changes from good guy to bad guy every two seconds. No such thing as destiny. BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constructelf Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 but Kakopa's got an ally: Fetix. What happens when he gets there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 He doesn't. He can't know the fight is happening without metagaming. No such thing as destiny. BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuRon the champion Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I'd also like to add that you can see through fire. BZPRPG Characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constructelf Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Kakopa launched a humongous fireball into the sky and earlier, in the Po-Wahi topic, the two of them rp'd that if they get into trouble, to do just that. Fetix will come running along, no doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Regardless, there are enough guards there that they'll be outnumbered at least two to one. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULiK Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I'd also like to add that you can see through fire.Yeah. And I'm really annoyed that when I shot a stone and him and then:The trown stone just incernated while it was trying to pas trough the circleThat doesn't happen. Try throwing a stone through a fire. It doesn't disintegrate. And it would only be in the fire for less than a second. That should be edited, it's just plain godmodding. Visit www.BZPRPG.com to view my project of archiving BZPower's RPGs, and also access the BZPower Roleplaying Wiki BZPRPG Profiles - Ghosts Of Bara Magna Profiles Exo-Force RPG Profiles - Six Kingdoms: Apocalypse (Knichou, Berys, Arnex, The Taku, Exuze) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 PM him, he doesn't read this topic, I don't think. PMing is the way to go in most situations anyways.Yes, I know I sound like a hypocrite, but I'm getting better. Get off me. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constructelf Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 His grammar and sentence structure just makes it worse...But on the other note...IC-Corik:Corik continued to smile, as he waved a hand, forcing aside the flame that Kakopa had created, stepping through it with his axe held, and about ready to activate his Pakari.You can do that??? (Control elements that are under the control of another person). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuRon the champion Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 I think so. BZPRPG Characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) You can't absorb them, or force aside an attack, but if it's something stationary like a wall of flame, I've seen people make an opening to walk throught it, like Corik did.Of course, Corik could likely also just walk through it real fast and suffer no ill effects anyways.EDIT: Message for Constructman: Good job, lad. Edited November 5, 2012 by Kal Grochi profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULiK Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 PM him, he doesn't read this topic, I don't think. PMing is the way to go in most situations anyways.Yes, I know I sound like a hypocrite, but I'm getting better. Get off me.Good point, I'll do that. Visit www.BZPRPG.com to view my project of archiving BZPower's RPGs, and also access the BZPower Roleplaying Wiki BZPRPG Profiles - Ghosts Of Bara Magna Profiles Exo-Force RPG Profiles - Six Kingdoms: Apocalypse (Knichou, Berys, Arnex, The Taku, Exuze) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow pridak money gang Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 You can't absorb them, or force aside an attack, but if it's something stationary like a wall of flame, I've seen people make an opening to walk throught it, like Corik did.Of course, Corik could likely also just walk through it real fast and suffer no ill effects anyways.EDIT: Message for Constructman: Good job, lad.Actually, pretty sure you can't. In Dor v. Brykon part one, Brykon created a huge iron cylindrical shield for himself that Dorian couldn't breach since, well, Brykon was controlling it.-Teezy ＳＡＹ ＩＴ ＯＮＥ ＭＯＲＥ ＴＩＭＥ ＴＥＬＬ ＭＥ ＷＨＡＴ ＩＳ ＯＮ ＹＯＵＲ ＭＩＮＤ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Light Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Depends on the respective wills, I believe. No such thing as destiny. BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highly Suspicious Person Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Maybe it just depends how much EE the creator is pumping into the creation. BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otter Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 You can't absorb them, or force aside an attack, but if it's something stationary like a wall of flame, I've seen people make an opening to walk throught it, like Corik did.Of course, Corik could likely also just walk through it real fast and suffer no ill effects anyways.EDIT: Message for Constructman: Good job, lad.Actually, pretty sure you can't. In Dor v. Brykon part one, Brykon created a huge iron cylindrical shield for himself that Dorian couldn't breach since, well, Brykon was controlling it.-TeezyHmm. And this is one of those RPG Theory things that isn't in the main rulebooks, last time I checked, and assuming my memory works. profiles i guess i'm a south american giant otter now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meta-Mind Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) According to BS01:Toa of Fire possess the Elemental Power of Fire, allowing them to create, control and absorb fire and heatToa of Iron have the Elemental Power of Iron, allowing them to create, control, and absorb any kind of metallic ProtodermisToa of [X] possess the Elemental Power of [X], allowing them to create, control, and absorb [X]Judging from this, there are no rules in actual canon about controlling or absorbing "someone else's" supply of an element. Obviously, the original creator can fight you for control, and since even fireballs have momentum, it'd be easier just to step out of the way unless you have Makuta-level willpower and can crush the creator's control in an instant. Also obviously, trying to absorb a fire is fruitless when the fire is being actively manipulated, but when it's just being sustained or fired...So basically, breaking someone else's element is a thing with the same power, but in most cases projectiles travel quickly enough that there's no point. The only real use of this is to break barriers, a la this "wall of fire" trick - and even that's shaky, as the original controller can just counter you and keep the barrier in place as long as they're actively focusing on the flame itself. Edited November 6, 2012 by Meta-Mind BZPRPG TIME, where you could have one post talk about dinner, and the next about lunch. Time is beyond relative here.There's no reason not to put lasers in the palms of planet-sized robots. In fact, if I had my own planet-sized robot, palm lasers would be one of my first upgrades.BZPRPG Profiles [outdated] May or may not be back from a multi-year hiatus. We'll see how this works out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Xemnas~ Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I do believe it has been said... somewhere... that Toa cannot control whatever another Toa of the same element is controlling at a given moment. If said Toa releases control, then the other Toa can go in and manipulate it. Plus, it's common courtesy to not mess with someone else's elemental conjuration. BZPRPG Profiles Ghosts of Bara Magna Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmperorWhenua Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I do believe it has been said... somewhere... that Toa cannot control whatever another Toa of the same element is controlling at a given moment. If said Toa releases control, then the other Toa can go in and manipulate it. Plus, it's common courtesy to not mess with someone else's elemental conjuration. Emphasis mine. It was never said that it's against canon to control the conjured or manipulated element of another character, it's just downright cheap and wrong to do so. It's a matter of fairness and courtesy not to control what someone else is controlling. BZPRPG Profiles / Critical Acclaim / Complaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Void Emissary Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 On the whole "controlling someone else's element" discussion:Exhibit 1:- A Toa of Water sends a wave of (you guessed it) water coming at you from a mile away.- The Toa walks away, leaving the wave to continue without his involvement.- You (another Toa of Water) take control of the wave, redirecting it before it strikes.Here, since the Toa who has created the element has relinquished control over it, it reverts to a "natural" (purely elemental) form, which can be controlled by any party.Exhibit 2:- Same scenario, but the Toa of Water retains control over the wave, directing its course towards you.- You attempt to control the wave.- The Toa of Water attempts to maintain control of the wave, resulting in a battle of wills over control of the water.Here, since the Toa who created the element retains control, making it harder for another party to influence it. Depending on the two beings' level of experience and concentration, the battle of wills can go either way, with one party breaking the other's control, or the battle coming to a stand-still. [ BZPRPG ] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Xemnas~ Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I do believe it has been said... somewhere... that Toa cannot control whatever another Toa of the same element is controlling at a given moment. If said Toa releases control, then the other Toa can go in and manipulate it. Plus, it's common courtesy to not mess with someone else's elemental conjuration. Emphasis mine. It was never said that it's against canon to control the conjured or manipulated element of another character, it's just downright cheap and wrong to do so. It's a matter of fairness and courtesy not to control what someone else is controlling.Right. Hopefully next year Nuju will put that somewhere in the rules, although I wish people would know this already. BZPRPG Profiles Ghosts of Bara Magna Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meta-Mind Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Yeah, just gonna add to what's been said above - obviously, if something is clearly an Awesome Phenomenon, then don't mess with it unless you're actually making it more so. I thought that was implied. BZPRPG TIME, where you could have one post talk about dinner, and the next about lunch. Time is beyond relative here.There's no reason not to put lasers in the palms of planet-sized robots. In fact, if I had my own planet-sized robot, palm lasers would be one of my first upgrades.BZPRPG Profiles [outdated] May or may not be back from a multi-year hiatus. We'll see how this works out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axilus Prime Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Well, I believe the last page or so of N & D is enough interest to warrant pirate-y posting, eh?Time to make port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabby: Toa of Cats Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) Tabby! I choose you!For what?EDIT:Constructman, waiting on a Skaaraa post in Le. Edited November 6, 2012 by Tabby: Toa of Cats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constructelf Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Training TemporaI I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmperorWhenua Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Nuju said I play the villain too well and wanted me to make a hero for next year. He has no idea what he asked for.A taste of what is to come in 2013. BZPRPG Profiles / Critical Acclaim / Complaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25K Now! Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 We're doomed. http://vimeo.com/198967785 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Xemnas~ Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 We're doomed.Nah bro, we're saved! I be wanting to meet him next year now. BZPRPG Profiles Ghosts of Bara Magna Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) SobasicallyHuron Ba-Toa, HERO of JUSTICEGood. Deconstruction ahead. Edited November 6, 2012 by Hero Creation Kit [Profiles] Wisdom. Restraint. Emptiness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25K Now! Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Of course, EW Heroism may be rather different from our standards of heroism. http://vimeo.com/198967785 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Xemnas~ Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Of course, EW Heroism may be rather different from our standards of heroism.But it's still heroism nonetheless. BZPRPG Profiles Ghosts of Bara Magna Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunflower Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'm just happy to see another Toa of Gravity around. :3 - BZPRPG - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axilus Prime Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 My standard of heroism is also different from yours.Namely that I have no problem with the hero killing the villain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krayzikk Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) My standard of heroism is also different from yours.Namely that I have no problem with the hero killing the villain.That doesn't affect the standard of hero.It just so happens that most of your "heros" are often pricks. Edited November 6, 2012 by Krayzikk Bieber On this eve, the thirtieth anniversary of that first colony, many are left to wonder; is the world fast approaching a breaking point? Breaking Point: An OTC Mecha RPG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Xemnas~ Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 (edited) It doesn't matter what the morals of the heroes are- they're all still heroes, whatever their differences. Edited November 6, 2012 by Toa Xemnas of Crystal BZPRPG Profiles Ghosts of Bara Magna Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axilus Prime Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 And yet I still don't see how. XDOh well.At least I'm not trying to pass the pirates off as heroes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmperorWhenua Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 AP, I don't think your characters, heroes or not, can even kill another character anyway, villain or not. Lol.But that's beside the point. What matters is that Huron is a different kind of hero, the kind who does what is just and good in a world filled with very unsavoury elements. The fact that he won't kill is testament to his will as a true toa hero. BZPRPG Profiles / Critical Acclaim / Complaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25K Now! Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 AP, I don't think your characters, heroes or not, can even kill another character anyway, villain or not. Lol.But that's beside the point. What matters is that Huron is a different kind of hero, the kind who does what is just and good in a world filled with very unsavoury elements. The fact that he won't kill is testament to his will as a true toa hero.Yep, we're doomed.EW has Batman. http://vimeo.com/198967785 BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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