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The Red Star and the Toa Inika's Transformation


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I have a query regarding the transformation of the Inika, and I doubt I'll get a simple answer for it. In fact if there isn't an answer, I wouldn't mind people's theories on the matter.

 

Why did the lightning from the Red Star strike the Inika's canisters?

 

As far as I'm aware, there hasn't been lightning from the Red Star except during that event. Why did it strike then? Was it programmed (that is, controlled, directed lightning, like elemental lightning or some beam of Toa Energy), or was it a random strike? Was it a malfunction? Was it a deliberate act? Could it just be the fact that the canisters were large metal objects in a storm?

 

As a subsect question, why did the lightning transform the Inika? The Red Star is the navigation system for the MN robot, yes, and the place where people are 'reborn' after death [and where people are teleported from when it functions correctly]. Would the lightning have Life energy of sorts? Was it commanded by the Ignika?

 

Does it have anything to do with destiny?

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The Red Star is another one of the GB's many fail safe devices that has a feature that will automatically transform any Matoran on the surface to Toa if needed. The Toa Nuva were the only Toa on the surface then, and they were incapacitated. I don't know why it hit them specifically, but that's what happened.

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Here's the quote from the Official Red Star Guide on this:

 

What is the nature of the lightning that struck 6 Matoran?

There was never supposed to be Matoran outside the robot. The Toa Mata failed to wake Mata Nui on time, and thus there were still Matoran outside on the islands of Mata Nui and Voya Nui. The lightning acts like a fail-safe to create new Toa outside the robot in case they are ever needed.

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The Red Star is another one of the GB's many fail safe devices that has a feature that will automatically transform any Matoran on the surface to Toa if needed. The Toa Nuva were the only Toa on the surface then, and they were incapacitated. I don't know why it hit them specifically, but that's what happened.

 

 

Here's the quote from the Official Red Star Guide on this:

 

What is the nature of the lightning that struck 6 Matoran?

There was never supposed to be Matoran outside the robot. The Toa Mata failed to wake Mata Nui on time, and thus there were still Matoran outside on the islands of Mata Nui and Voya Nui. The lightning acts like a fail-safe to create new Toa outside the robot in case they are ever needed.

 

 

Thank you! I should really expand my reading, haha :P

 

How does the Toa-ising beam work? Does it "have it in with Destiny"? How can it distinguish between non-destined and destined Matoran?

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The Matoran it struck were already special in some way, having worked as leaders or having other special jobs for their Turaga. Jaller and Kongu were the captains of their villages' respective guard forces, Nuparu was great inventor, Matoro was Nuju's personal translator, Hahli was an explorer turned Chronicler, and Hewkii was similarly the champion of his village. Plus, they had already taken the initiative to seek out the Toa Nuva on the surface, and they were traveling in designated Toa canisters. Even if the Red Star ignores any past history or destiny the Matoran might have, those canisters must have acted like magnets to the lightning targeting system.

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The Matoran it struck were already special in some way, having worked as leaders or having other special jobs for their Turaga. Jaller and Kongu were the captains of their villages' respective guard forces, Nuparu was great inventor, Matoro was Nuju's personal translator, Hahli was an explorer turned Chronicler, and Hewkii was similarly the champion of his village. Plus, they had already taken the initiative to seek out the Toa Nuva on the surface, and they were traveling in designated Toa canisters. Even if the Red Star ignores any past history or destiny the Matoran might have, those canisters must have acted like magnets to the lightning targeting system.

 

That does make sense... Thank you! Yes, I was considering their past and whether it could pick up on that, but maybe the targeting system wanted to make sure that the Toa Canisters contained Toa :P

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That does make sense... Thank you! Yes, I was considering their past and whether it could pick up on that, but maybe the targeting system wanted to make sure that the Toa Canisters contained Toa :P

It's pretty much confirmed that it keeps a backup of the recent memories of biomechanical beings, which it can use to restore them after they die. At least I assume this, because you can be revived so long as you leave a body, even if it had its head crushed or similar. The Red Star can possibly analyze these memories, and pick out certain qualities such as "strong leader" in the case it needs to choose.

 

Thus it probably has a priority list of some sorts, ordered like this:

1) destined Matoran

2) significant/trusted Matoran, canisters

3) any other Matoran

 

It's an emergency system, so if the situation is 100% critical I would bet that it just picks the first Matoran it can detect outside the MU, otherwise it waits. The Toa Nuva were defeated and captured before the Inika came to the surface, so evidently the Red Star had some criteria it was waiting for that kept it from just targeting the Voya Nui resistance team members instead. Who knows, if Teridax had been standing in the chamber of the Mask of Life with the artifact centimeters away from his hand, we might have seen Garan & co. as Toa instead.

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Hmmm... so then Hahli took on Naho's energies, Matoro got one (or all four) of the Toa Mangai of Ice, and they all split Nikila evenly between them? :P

 

Not a bad idea, actually. The execution of the story doesn't entirely line up, IMO, but if the Red Star's function had been entirely planned out in 2006 and the Toa Inika characterized with that in mind, it could have been really cool.

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Destined Matoran already have a small amount of Toa energy in them, so all it would need is a sensor to detect that, and aim for it. It doesn't assign destinies as far as we know; something else does that and it only needs to detect the "mark".

 

As for where it gets the Toa energy, given that it's a system designed by GBs, and that we know the original TE had to have been made when the first Toa were (plus may be being made on the RS whenever a dead Toa needs a new body, unless it transfers it from the old), I would presume a TE generator is part of the mechanism.

 

[Edit: *belatedly, due to order of reading newest posts on BZP, sees responses to a similar point I made in another topic* Alright, it appears Artakha might not have the means to make new TE. Still, IMO this point works because the RS device was made directly by the GBs, and likely only they even knew about it. Also, it still remains necessary that the TE Artakha used didn't come from pre-existing Toa, at least for Helryx (I think it was). So it can be made anew somehow, somewhere.]

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Nuparu was great inventor

Nuparu was heavy weapons guy and this was his weapon

 

It weighs a thousand and fifty kilograms and punches with two heavy-duty hooks mounted on custom-built pistons capable of punching two hundred Bohrok per minute. It costs four hundred thousand widgets to ride the Boxor... for 12 seconds.

 

 

I think maybe Hafu should have been a Toa. Sure, Hewkii has a strong foot and all, but Hafu carved a statue of himself out of a massive stone block in barely a few minutes. He could probably have carved a Hafu-shaped hole down to the Ignika in no time.

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I think maybe Hafu should have been a Toa. Sure, Hewkii has a strong foot and all, but Hafu carved a statue of himself out of a massive stone block in barely a few minutes. He could probably have carved a Hafu-shaped hole down to the Ignika in no time.

 

I think LEGO was trying to avoid bringing the Chronicler's Company into this.

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Wrong place, wrong time, for any of the ones who were destined, basically.

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How come the Red Star didn't shoot any lightning down during 999 years the Matoran were on Mata Nui with no Toa?

As bonesiii said, wrong place wrong time. Destiny is not only based on the being but based on their situation. If you're destined to become a Toa during your journey to Voya Nui, you're not going to become a Toa on Mata Nui, even though you are still the destined individual.

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Why has nobody mentioned the fact that they were specifically in Toa Canisters at the time? It would make so much sense that the Red Star detected that there were no Toa on that island, like Bones said, and what do you know? Toa Canisters show up. There's either Toa already in there or there's something that can become a Toa ('cause Toa Canisters aren't exactly common, only Toa use them and only special Matoran make them), so zap, it hits the canisters with energy that supercharges the Toa so that they're guaranteed to have some special advantage and kick butt, and it has the power to turn Matoran into Toa juuussst in case. Or, you know, like I said in the other Red Star topic, the Red Star could either be super advanced or could be operated by living beings, which would mean it could scan the contents of the canisters and upon seeing Matoran add the Toa forumula to the energy beam (err, lightning).

That's why Kazi and the gang, and like, the entire population of Matoran on Voya Nui in general were not zapped into Toa as soon as the Piraka threat arrived. Without Toa Canisters as a guarantee that there are Toa or Matoran who know enough about Toa to be helpful and being canister builders they'd prolly know a looot about Toa, the Red Star couldn't just zap lightning powers and optional Toa energy into any old Matoran. Also, keep in mind that the Voya Nui matoran knew so little about Toa that they were fooled into believing the Piraka, so, they prolly wouldn't have made great candidates with such a steep learning curve.

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Why has nobody mentioned the fact that they were specifically in Toa Canisters at the time?

We did. :)

 

Plus, they had already taken the initiative to seek out the Toa Nuva on the surface, and they were traveling in designated Toa canisters. Even if the Red Star ignores any past history or destiny the Matoran might have, those canisters must have acted like magnets to the lightning targeting system.

I agree with your post. If the Red Star was prepared to cause emergency transformation of Matoran into Toa, then targeting the healthy, somewhat special Matoran traveling in canisters would be better than targeting some random half-broken Karzahni Matoran. The Red Star can likely monitor the entire MU, so if it somehow knew this group of six Matoran was trying to reach Voya Nui, it would wait with the emergency beam until they were "in range" of the situation or at least confirmed as viable targets.

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