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#1 Offline Toa Chronix

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Posted Jun 14 2014 - 06:37 PM

I heard someone mention this in a YouTube comment and it really caught my attention. 

 

Basically, I think Midak is an Av Matoran. I know it was never confirmed or even mentioned but hear me out. 

Midak was different from the other Onu Matoran, he didn't like the dark caves of Onu Koro, and preferred being out in the light

Another coincidence, the Midak SkyBlaster (Which fires balls of light) was named after this very Matoran. Perhaps he, like Takua, lost his memory when he was placed in the Matoran pod. 


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Posted Jun 14 2014 - 06:45 PM

No he's not only Takua is the only Av-Matoran that lands to Metru Nui,and disguised a Ta-Matoran. 


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Posted Jun 14 2014 - 07:13 PM

It is confirmed that Takua was the only Av-Matoran on Metru-Nui.  The Midak Skyblaster was not named by Artakha, but by Pohatu and Lewa, who would not know whether it was a disguise or not.

That being said, many matoran destined to become toa exibit traits unusual for matoran of their respective element...


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Posted Jun 14 2014 - 07:51 PM

It is confirmed that Takua was the only Av-Matoran on Metru-Nui.  The Midak Skyblaster was not named by Artakha, but by Pohatu and Lewa, who would not know whether it was a disguise or not.

That being said, many matoran destined to become toa exibit traits unusual for matoran of their respective element...


How? The Inika matoran were pretty straightforward to their elements, if you ask me. Same goes for the Turaga when they were still matoran. Takua wasn't very much out of his element either.

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Posted Jun 14 2014 - 09:04 PM

 

It is confirmed that Takua was the only Av-Matoran on Metru-Nui.  The Midak Skyblaster was not named by Artakha, but by Pohatu and Lewa, who would not know whether it was a disguise or not.

That being said, many matoran destined to become toa exibit traits unusual for matoran of their respective element...


How? The Inika matoran were pretty straightforward to their elements, if you ask me. Same goes for the Turaga when they were still matoran. Takua wasn't very much out of his element either.

 

It came from BS01... I think it was based off of Toa Krakua (De-Matoran who hums) and the fact that Kapura becomes a toa in The Kingdom.

Their is probably an old Greg quote for this.


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Posted Jun 14 2014 - 10:24 PM

Basically, Keltan, your theory is one that makes sense and has seen some support from people around here in the past (to the best of my memory), but has been officially confirmed to not be the case. Same applies to Tamaru, Kapura, etc.


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Posted Jun 25 2014 - 03:36 PM

This is a good theory but I don't know if I agree or disagree. Midak could have been an Po-Matoran instead of a Av-Matoran because Po-Matoran do have the color of Black. Now with the Midak SkyBlaster, it gotten its name from Pohatu and Lewa but mostly Pohatu because the weapon reminded him of Midak and named it  the Midak SkyBlaster in honor of him.

But we don't know, he could be a Av-Matoran, Po-Matoran or just a Onu-Matoran.


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Posted Jun 25 2014 - 03:40 PM

This is a good theory but I don't know if I agree or disagree. Midak could have been an Po-Matoran instead of a Av-Matoran because Po-Matoran do have the color of Black. Now with the Midak SkyBlaster, it gotten its name from Pohatu and Lewa but mostly Pohatu because the weapon reminded him of Midak and named it  the Midak SkyBlaster in honor of him.

But we don't know, he could be a Av-Matoran, Po-Matoran or just a Onu-Matoran.

I agree on the theory that he might be a Po-Matoran. 


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Posted Jun 25 2014 - 04:33 PM

9. And finaly is it possible that their are other Av-Matoran other than Takua in Metru Nui?
 
9) No. The Order did not seed more than one Av-Matoran in a location. The point was for them to be spread out.

 
Why would he be a Po-Matoran? He appeared in MNOG, clearly looking like a Onu-Matoran...
 

Hi. Just one suggestion today.

Now I know you don’t like matching up MNOLG characters, but I thought this was actually a really good idea: In the game, as you walk towards Onu-Koro, there’s a small hut with an Onu-Matoran who tends to the ussal crabs. He lives out there in Po-Wahi, one of the brightest areas in Mata Nui.

I was thinking that he might be Midak. He referred to the dark as "awful" at one point in his conversation with Takua and we know for a fact that Midak lived above ground. We also know that Midak befriended Pohatu, and the character in MNOLG did live in Po-Wahi...

So what do you think? I remember you canonized my idea about the Rahi Hordika on the Kumu Islets, which was a bigger stretch, anyways... Besides, I’d hate to let an interesting-sounding character like Midak go too undeveloped.

 

1) I sent an answer on this a while ago - I said it was okay.


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Posted Jun 25 2014 - 04:40 PM

As much as we like to speculate that he's a Po-Matoran or an Av-Matoran, I think in the end he's just an Onu-Matoran with a unique character trait. 


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Posted Jun 25 2014 - 04:43 PM

I agree on the theory that he might be a Po-Matoran.

How about we just let Onu-Matoran have personality variety? I like that he seems like an Av-Matoran but he really is Onu. I'm glad they kept it that way. Once, with Takua, is fine, but it should be used very sparingly.


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Posted Jun 25 2014 - 06:08 PM

Ya he could just be a normal Onu-Matoran but he maybe a Matoran that wish he was a Av-Matoran or Po-Matoan, so he live outside in the light because...        he maybe going to think that he is a Av or Po-matoran.


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Posted Jun 25 2014 - 06:19 PM

No doubt a lot of people have theorised the possibility that Midak could be an Av-Matoran because of his unusual interests.

 

However, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe he could be destined to become a Toa. An unusual personality is always a first sign of such a destiny.


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Posted Jun 25 2014 - 06:40 PM

That sound like a good idea, Midak destined to become a Toa is something I could see happening. We could see if he is a Av, Po or Onu- Matoran but again he may just be a Onu-Matoran wishing that he could be a Av-Matoran and when he become a Toa he'll just have a Onu Toa Power.


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Posted Jun 25 2014 - 07:43 PM

Voya Nui is pretty clear evidence that Matoran can have unusual personalities for their element. Dalu is easily angered, Kazi is extroverted and impatient, Balta is timid and shy, Piruk is quiet and introverted, and Garan is a natural leader. Doesn't mean they're all secretly different elements from what they appear to be.


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Posted Jun 25 2014 - 09:24 PM

That's possible, but even there, I personally find it better if his unusual personality trait doesn't need explaining. People can be unusual just to be unusual. :shrugs: (And sometimes it's not so great if all the most interesting Matoran become Toa.)
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Posted Jun 25 2014 - 10:10 PM

Agreed! Why not make some obscure Matoran Toa so we can discover their personalities for the first time, and then keep the ones we already know are interesting as Matoran?


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Posted Jun 26 2014 - 12:01 AM

Indeed, I want to see the one Matoran with the greatest name in the world as a Toa so we can discover his personalities. This Matoran I speak of is the one and only JAA (JAA JAA JAA JAA JAA JAA JAA, I love that name =P )

Also ya it would be better if Midak stay as a Matoran.


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Posted Jun 26 2014 - 07:54 AM

Personality traits that deviate from the norm don't immediately mean that a Matoran is destined to be a Toa.

 

They might just be weird.


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Posted Jun 27 2014 - 02:47 PM

Voya Nui is pretty clear evidence that Matoran can have unusual personalities for their element. Dalu is easily angered, Kazi is extroverted and impatient, Balta is timid and shy, Piruk is quiet and introverted, and Garan is a natural leader. Doesn't mean they're all secretly different elements from what they appear to be.

I just want to point out that, according to one of the BIONICLE Legends books, Dalu fit the normal Ga-Matoran archetype until she was sent to Karzahni and later Voya Nui, where she adapted as a necessity. This idea could be applied to all the Matoran of Voya Nui, where, furthermore, all the Matoran lived in one village, instead of six elementally-segregated ones.


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Posted Jun 27 2014 - 06:05 PM

Interesting... but it still doesn't fit perfectly, since the Matoran don't all just have the same new personality. I think you're referring to the quote that goes something like, "I'm sure where you're from, Ga-Matoran are kind and don't raise their voices. They were like that where I'm from, too. But this is Voya Nui." 

The first thing I realized typing this is that Voya Nuinans do have some memories from before they went to Karzahni, which surprised me. Now, it's clear that Dalu is defending her attitude. But the other Voya Nuinans clearly don't have the same attitude. Also, we've seen that Dalu often has trouble controlling her attitude. To me it seems more likely that she was always predisposed to that kind of personality, but used to have to work hard to hide it.


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Posted Jul 01 2014 - 12:44 PM

This topics been brought up multiple times (I've started one myself a few months back). We've seen odd matoran in the past, like Kapura, Ahkmou, and Tamaru, who don't seem to fit their element's sterotype. I think Midak is just another oddball.


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Posted Jul 02 2014 - 01:51 AM

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Posted Jul 04 2014 - 03:36 PM

I want to point out that Midak is confirmed to have weak eyesight in bright light in Shadows in the Sky.  So he is either faking that (and why would he?), he's an Onu-Matoran, or a very weird Av-Matoran.


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Posted Jul 05 2014 - 12:28 AM

I did bring up that he could be a Po-Matoran, instead of a Onu-Matoran or Av-Matoran.


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