Toa Empire Toa Mata

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Ok, so we know that in the Toa Empire universe, the Brotherhood never put Mata-Nui to sleep, meaning that Mata-Nui also never crash landed on Mata-Nui island. But we also know that it was stated in Dark Mirror that Tuyet managed to launch their canisters and cause them to join her armada.

 

So...

 

If MataNui never landed on Aqua Magna, how and where did the Toa Mata's canisters launch to and how did they get into the Matoran Universe. I was under the assumption that the Toa Mata canisters simply shot them outside the MU and then were meant to make their way to the face of the giant robot where the Toa would be able to enter into the MU. However if that is true then the Toa Mata would have been launched into...space(?) in the Toa Empire universe? And still made it into the MU...somehow?

 

I'm just confused how that would all work out, and wondered what you all had to say. Maybe I'm just overlooking something obvious.

 

Thanks

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I'd imagine that the Toa Mata were either originally going to Metru Nui, but their destination changed because the Matoran were in Mata Nui, or when Mata Nui is in mid-flight, they default to Metru Nui so they don't die in the vacuum of space.

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I'd imagine that the Toa Mata were either originally going to Metru Nui, but their destination changed because the Matoran were in Mata Nui, or when Mata Nui is in mid-flight, they default to Metru Nui so they don't die in the vacuum of space.

 

But if it's possible to default to Metru-Nui in the first place, why would they ever go outside the MU in the first place under other circumstances?

 

If it was possible to simply have the Toa Mata appear in the MU, why have them launch outside the robot if it did happen to land?

[fishers64]

I think there's some sort of computer algorithm in the launch that determines where the Toa are needed, and launches them there. So if they were needed in Metru Nui, they would go there. It turned out they were needed on Mata Nui, so the computer sent them there, but they didn't fully make it. 

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I think there's some sort of computer algorithm in the launch that determines where the Toa are needed, and launches them there. So if they were needed in Metru Nui, they would go there. It turned out they were needed on Mata Nui, so the computer sent them there, but they didn't fully make it. 

But in the end, THEY weren't needed on Mata-Nui.

 

The Toa Mata were destined to journey to Karda Nui and help Mata-Nui in the case of a necessary reawakening. It would have been nice if they helped the Matoran on Mata-Nui island, but that was not where they were most needed or where they were destined to go accept in case of a necessary entry into the MU from the outside.

 

The Toa Mata were destined to reawaken Mata-Nui, so that would have been the need for them to fill. If the Toa Canisters could have gotten them straight to Metru-Nui, why would they go through the trouble of going to Mata-Nui island ever? Not to mention, even if the canisters' landing systems are based on places that are in need, the whole universe was in need when the Toa were launched. Nearly every island in the MU was either consumed in war or under Brotherhood control. I don't think the canisters worked off "need" because if they did they could and would have wound up anywhere in the MU, and Mata-Nui island would have been a strange choice for landing if getting to Karda-Nui was their next step. 

[fishers64]

 

I think there's some sort of computer algorithm in the launch that determines where the Toa are needed, and launches them there. So if they were needed in Metru Nui, they would go there. It turned out they were needed on Mata Nui, so the computer sent them there, but they didn't fully make it. 

But in the end, THEY weren't needed on Mata-Nui.

 

The Toa Mata were destined to journey to Karda Nui and help Mata-Nui in the case of a necessary reawakening. It would have been nice if they helped the Matoran on Mata-Nui island, but that was not where they were most needed or where they were destined to go accept in case of a necessary entry into the MU from the outside.

 

The Toa Mata were destined to reawaken Mata-Nui, so that would have been the need for them to fill. If the Toa Canisters could have gotten them straight to Metru-Nui, why would they go through the trouble of going to Mata-Nui island ever? Not to mention, even if the canisters' landing systems are based on places that are in need, the whole universe was in need when the Toa were launched. Nearly every island in the MU was either consumed in war or under Brotherhood control. I don't think the canisters worked off "need" because if they did they could and would have wound up anywhere in the MU, and Mata-Nui island would have been a strange choice for landing if getting to Karda-Nui was their next step. 

 

Yes, but the Matoran of Metru Nui needed to be back in Metru Nui from Mata Nui for the Great Spirit to be awakened. Those Matoran had to be at their posts and working for him to be alive and well, and if the Toa Mata tried to do so without it, all those Matoran would have been killed, making the process of reviving him harder. 

 

The obstacle to getting back was the Makuta; in the end Takanuva helped with that, but the algorithm doesn't know that. All it knows is that the displacement of those Matoran is the first thing that needs to be fixed, and it sends the Toa Mata there to fix it. (Even though they don't really end up fixing it.)

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Yes, but the Matoran of Metru Nui needed to be back in Metru Nui from Mata Nui for the Great Spirit to be awakened. Those Matoran had to be at their posts and working for him to be alive and well, and if the Toa Mata tried to do so without it, all those Matoran would have been killed, making the process of reviving him harder. 

 

 

launch that determines where the Toa are needed, and launches them there. So if they were needed in Metru Nui, they would go there. It tu

 

The obstacle to getting back was the Makuta; in the end Takanuva helped with that, but the algorithm doesn't know that. All it knows is that the displacement of those Matoran is the first thing that needs to be fixed, and it sends the Toa Mata there to fix it. (Even though they don't really end up fixing it.)

 

Ahh, that makes complete sense.

 

Though do we have any canon confirmations of how the Mata's canisters worked, and why they chose to travel to Mata-Nui?

Edited July 23, 2014 by Loading...

[bonesiii]

What you're really asking is, if Mata Nui is in space when the canisters launch, where to they go and why?

 

Answer is Metru Nui because the only reason to go to Mata Nui (as the Great Beings had planned it) is to make sure the Bohrok are doing their job. So, if the giant gets awakened successfully later, he'll be able to stand up. If he falls asleep in space, there's no island to worry about, ergo the canisters would go to Metru Nui. Not confirmed [Edit: Well, it might be... but I don't have a quote handy anyways], but seems a pretty obvious deduction.

 

So, apparently IF Tuyet just triggered the programming that was already there for the canister flight paths, they would either go right to Metru Nui, or if he happened to be on an alien planet at that time, the camouflage island first, then head down to Metru Nui (thinking, at the time, that Mata Nui must be asleep, but then find out that's not the case when Tuyet's people greet them).

 

Of course, it's always possible she somehow commandeered the programming and simply had them go right to Metru Nui regardless, or wherever she wanted really.

 

I'd imagine that the Toa Mata were either originally going to Metru Nui, but their destination changed because the Matoran were in Mata Nui

But the giant was on the planet at the time, so they would still need to ensure the Bohrok were awakened. The Great Beings would have had no way to know there would be Matoran on that island at the time, so that isn't really a factor. But it turned out to be useful since Toa were needed there at the time. Of course, destiny seems to be adaptive to know these kinds of things, at least by the time decisions need to be made, so I suppose we couldn't rule out that that was actually added to part of why they would go there, but they already were going to, Matoran or not.

 

If it was possible to simply have the Toa Mata appear in the MU, why have them launch outside the robot if it did happen to land?

They would need to go back up there eventually anyways to ensure the Bohrok were released, so why not do it first rather than as an afterthought? It takes time to clean the island, so it makes more sense to have them doing that while the Mata would then be working on the rest of the Preparations, so by the time Mata Nui does wake up, he can stand up at any time.

 

And while I doubt the programming of the flight path did factor this, they also needed to ensure the Matoran in Metru Nui were working, so Mata Nui's brain could function properly. Since they did happen to be on the camouflage island at the time, it makes sense, whether through "luck" or adaptive destiny, to go there first in that case.

 

the whole universe was in need when the Toa were launched.

The Toa Mata's destinies aren't for any and every needs -- it was for specific tasks necessary to get the Great Spirit up and running properly again -- that's it.

 

I don't think the canisters worked off "need" because if they did they could and would have wound up anywhere in the MU

No, they would go to the top priority for purposes of awakening Mata Nui, factoring for time involved. That means when it's landed, the camouflage island, and next step (or top priority if it isn't landed), brain functioning (repairs there could also take time).

 

Mata-Nui island would have been a strange choice for landing if getting to Karda-Nui was their next step.

No, Karda Nui was the last step.

 

Though do we have any canon confirmations of... why they chose to travel to Mata-Nui?

It's the first of the steps mentioned on the Scroll of Preparations page here:

 

http://biosector01.com/wiki/index.php/Scroll_of_Preparations

 

Note that that's not an exhaustive list of things they needed to do; it doesn't mention the Matoran working in Metru Nui or the whole Karda Nui thing, but those are known too.

 

do we have any canon confirmations of how the Mata's canisters worked

This part I'm not sure about. It's obvious that they had to at least detect (or be told by automated sensors in the giant somewhere) whether it was on a planet or not, so they'd know to go to Metru Nui or the camouflage island. I'm not sure if by chance some other higher priority threat to the reawakening were to develop if they would be sent right to it, or if they would still have to deal with Metru Nui and/or Bohrok first and then travel to that other place on their own. Either seems possible to me.

Edited July 23, 2014 by bonesiii

[Zidonaro]

While we're discussing things here... Can I ask how the Toa Nuva managed to return to the MU while they were on Voya Nui ? 

[bonesiii]

While we're discussing things here... Can I ask how the Toa Nuva managed to return to the MU while they were on Voya Nui ? 

Botar... *thinks* Okay... maybe not... *checks* Okay, canisters.

Edited July 23, 2014 by bonesiii

[Zidonaro]

 

While we're discussing things here... Can I ask how the Toa Nuva managed to return to the MU while they were on Voya Nui ? 

Botar.

 

Oh, so he teleported them ? I didn't know, thanks 

[bonesiii]

See edit -- I spoke too soon. It was canisters, not Botar. But Botar was there, so I'm right that he could have, if canisters hadn't been available. (I guess they reprogrammed the Inika's canisters or something.) It says canisters on page 114 of Prisoners of the Pit.

Edited July 23, 2014 by bonesiii

[fishers64]

See edit -- I spoke too soon. It was canisters, not Botar. But Botar was there, so I'm right that he could have, if canisters hadn't been available. (I guess they reprogrammed the Inika's canisters or something.) It says canisters on page 114 of Prisoners of the Pit.

Actually, there were three sets of canisters on the island: the ones the Toa Nuva took from Metru Nui in the first place, the Piraka's, and the Inika's. So they would have their choice. But I think they probably took their own because one of the Piraka's was flooded thanks to a prank of Hakann on Vezok, and the Inika's could have been fried by the lightning. 

 

Also, having left those canisters on the beach in the first place, they would know where they were. Plus those ones would likely already be programmed for the return trip.

Edited July 23, 2014 by fishers64

[bonesiii]

Actually, there were three sets of canisters on the island... the Piraka's

Figured somebody would say this. Little problem:

 

http://biosector01.com/wiki/images/5/54/Comic_Reidak.PNG

 

 

 

(Of course, they could use some of them... I think...) I did forget about the ones the Nuva took there, though (and I had written about them in the retelling... ah, life with my memory... sigh...). Yeah, that makes way more sense lol.

[Akavakaku]

I think perhaps if the Mata canisters were launched while in space, they would simply fly through space to Kini Nui (or its equivalent beneath the camoflauge island), dock there, and drop the Toa into Mangaia so they could continue to Metru Nui.

[bonesiii]

I think perhaps if the Mata canisters were launched while in space, they would simply fly through space to Kini Nui (or its equivalent beneath the camoflauge island), dock there, and drop the Toa into Mangaia so they could continue to Metru Nui.

Why? Wouldn't it be more efficient to go right to Metru Nui? (If in space.) There's nothing they would need to be doing at the Mangaia so far as I recall.

[N.S.M.8]

 

I think perhaps if the Mata canisters were launched while in space, they would simply fly through space to Kini Nui (or its equivalent beneath the camoflauge island), dock there, and drop the Toa into Mangaia so they could continue to Metru Nui.

Why? Wouldn't it be more efficient to go right to Metru Nui? (If in space.) There's nothing they would need to be doing at the Mangaia so far as I recall.

 

If they went into space, Mangaia would be the most efficient way back into the robot.  (unless there is another path besides Mangaia or the Maze of Shadows that I am forgetting)

 

Although I still am not sure why they need to leave the robot at all.  My only theory is that sending the canisters through space is more efficient than sending them through passageways inside the robot (we know that the canisters can protect the toa from the energy storms).  

[bonesiii]

Your wording makes it sound like you don't know this, so, I'll say it just in case -- but the canisters have an intangibility power. There's no path that they need to follow. They can go right to Metru Nui. (And even if they didn't, going through the eyes like the Toa Metru's airships did would be far more efficient -- plus, why stop in Mangaia? Why not keep flying and drop them off at Metru Nui regardless of the route -- if in space?)

 

As for why they go out in space, presumably it saves energy on the intangibility power (and it's safer if it happens to fail midway or so there) -- less that it has to go through that way. Or it could go through the tunnels, but then the steering system has to work harder, so still less efficient. (I've been waiting for that to come up. )

Edited July 24, 2014 by bonesiii

[Banana Gunz]

So why do the Toa Mata need to be launched at all? Their destinies are to awaken Mata-Nui, not protect the matoran like the Metru, and to awaken Mata-Nui you have to go to the codrex... and the Mata's canisters are located... in the codrex.

 

My theory about this is that their mission is not simply to awaken Mata-Nui, but also find out what put him to sleep, stop it from being a threat again, and then awaken him. Thinking like a Great Being, if they just awakened Mata-Nui, what says the thing that caused him to fall asleep before won't make him go to sleep again? Which is why they have to be launched in order to go throughout the Mata-Nui robot wherever they have to (even if it means going outside the Mata-Nui robot) and find and solve the problem, then go back to the codrex, awaken him, and go back to sleep there until he fall asleep again, in which case they are launched again and the cycle repeats. Remember Christian Fabers inspiration for Bionicle, the Toa Mata were located in little pills that had to be swallowed, fight off the disease, and make him healthy again.

 

As for the Toa Mata in the alternate universe, I can't quite remember whether or not they were actually launched. They may have just been "found" in Karda Nui, though I can't remember for sure. If they were launched then I would guess their canisters have a way of getting back into the Mata-Nui robot like rockets or something, remember, their canisters floated around the island of Mata-Nui for a long time before they were summoned accidentally by Takua in which case they "floated" to the island, implying that the canisters have some special way of getting around.

 

It is also possible that the canisters have to be summoned because of this. It might also be the matorans jobs to summon the Toa Mata to where they are if that is where the problem is located, even though they are launched automatically, which is why they floated around on Aqua Magna for a long time. The only thing going against this theory is that according to canon, it was a malfunction that caused the canisters to float around the island for a long time (maybe the same malfunction that made them launch outside the Mata-Nui robot?)

 

Lotsa theories guy, this is good, very very good. Keep Bionicle alive!

 

[bonesiii]

So why do the Toa Mata need to be launched at all? Their destinies are to awaken Mata-Nui, not protect the matoran like the Metru, and to awaken Mata-Nui you have to go to the codrex... and the Mata's canisters are located... in the codrex.

This was covered in earlier posts. You can't do all those other things in their destinies from the Codrex. And it seems unlikely you could start the "ignition" alone and everything would be fixed; some other part to the engines or brain or something would more likely be the problem, although in the computer world there is an obvious analogy; the restart.

 

My theory about this is that their mission is not simply to awaken Mata-Nui, but also find out what put him to sleep, stop it from being a threat again, and then awaken him.

Essentially correct, but other Toa could be given destinies more specific, like the Inika saving his life. But this would apply in the case of making sure the Matoran are working in Metru Nui, so it would seem to establish a general principle. They also helped the Matoran be able to return to Metru Nui along the same lines.

 

As for the Toa Mata in the alternate universe, I can't quite remember whether or not they were actually launched. They may have just been "found" in Karda Nui, though I can't remember for sure.

That's possible.

 

It might also be the matorans jobs to summon the Toa Mata to where they are if that is where the problem is located

That's a good theory I don't think I've heard before. Maybe it was something lost to the long time period, perhaps reduced to distorted legend? It would explain why the canisters did have a system to detect what Takua did and head toward it. (If not, the main theory would be that this was just a safeguard, which does make sense too.)

 

even though they are launched automatically, which is why they floated around on Aqua Magna for a long time. The only thing going against this theory is that according to canon, it was a malfunction that caused the canisters to float around the island for a long time

Not necessarily evidence against your theory -- a standard route could be input, while the signal could override it. Matoran would then only need to make a signal if they knew the Toa were needed in a higher priority place. The malfunction could just be to the standard course.

 

Actually, it's more likely the Order would handle that procedure, and they may very well have known about it but had no reason to override the standard course. That could get into a lot of different possibilities about why they didn't, for a thousand years. It could be evidence against the theory, depending on whether they definitely would have caused a summoning earlier had they known of the possibility.

[Katuko]

Your wording makes it sound like you don't know this, so, I'll say it just in case -- but the canisters have an intangibility power. There's no path that they need to follow.

Wait, where and when was this revealed?

 

As for the Toa Mata in the alternate universe, I can't quite remember whether or not they were actually launched. They may have just been "found" in Karda Nui, though I can't remember for sure.

Wouldn't the energy storms be active and prevent anyone from visiting the place?

 

 

In any case, I believe the launch system for the canisters would be able to tell where they should land. When the Toa Mata launched, the Great Cataclysm had just happened. Metru Nui was broken along with countless other places inside the MU, Mata Nui himself was asleep, the robot was submerged in an ocean, and the island camo was active. If the MU itself is considered "broken and unsafe", then the barren island with an easy access point to the city housing the Core Processor would be the best place to send the canisters. Dropping them in a potentially unstable city ruin would not be so good. Imagine if they landed in the Great Temple of Metru Nui and found that whatever wrecked the city was still a danger.

 

Plus, the malfunction could indeed have caused more than just missing the island. It could potentially have been the reason they left the MU in the first place, as Banana Gunz says. Having the intangibility power and the canister engine run for a few seconds too long would send them flying straight through the roof of Metru Nui, and then arc into the ocean outside. From there the malfunction would keep the canisters from hitting the shore, and leave them drifting until Takua eventually called them.

[bonesiii]

Your wording makes it sound like you don't know this, so, I'll say it just in case -- but the canisters have an intangibility power. There's no path that they need to follow.

Wait, where and when was this revealed?

 

http://biosector01.com/wiki/index.php/Toa_Canister

 

 

That's a good point about the barren land being a safer landing zone. That could apply to that Mangaia landing idea too -- I should have thought of that. Especially with all those skyscrapers. Metal version of "tiiiiiiimberrrrrr"!

[NorikSigma]

They weren't launched in Toa Empire.

 

Tuyet journeyed to their stasis canisters and freed them herself. They were never awakened bacause Mata Nui never slumbered.

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They weren't launched in Toa Empire.

 

Tuyet journeyed to their stasis canisters and freed them herself. They were never awakened bacause Mata Nui never slumbered.

 

How would Tuyet have gotten into the Codrex if the Energy Storms in Karda-Nui would have still been raging due to Mata-Nui still being awake and running?

[bonesiii]

They weren't launched in Toa Empire.

 

Tuyet journeyed to their stasis canisters and freed them herself. They were never awakened bacause Mata Nui never slumbered.

Hmm... BS01's page for that altaverse says:

 

The Toa Mata's existence was discovered and Tuyet sent the signal to launch their Toa Canisters, thereby freeing them to join the Toa Empire.

 

Does an actual source say differently? *decides to go re-read Dark Mirror...*

 

How would Tuyet have gotten into the Codrex if the Energy Storms in Karda-Nui would have still been raging due to Mata-Nui still being awake and running?

Olmak? She had one, after all.

 

Edit:

 

Dark Mirror clearly backs up BS01's wording:

 

 

 

"Wait a minute," said Takanuva. "I don't understand any of this. Tahu, Pohatu and the rest were supposed to stay asleep until they were needed to awaken Mata Nui. But Mata Nui never fell asleep here, so why are they here?"

 

"He talks a lot, doesn't he?" Pohatu said to Lesovikk. Lesovikk shrugged.

 

"Okay, glowfish, let me tell you a story," Pohatu said, "Toa Tuyet found out where we were from Artakha. She sent some Toa in to find us, but none of them survived the trip. That was when she found a spot in the Coliseum no one had ever seen before. A place from which she could fake the signal that would launch our canisters. Next thing you know, here we are. [...]"

 

Incidentally, that wording may imply she did override the original flight path, and may have had the canisters drop them off right where she was in the Coliseum.

Edited July 28, 2014 by bonesiii

[N.S.M.8]

 

 

How would Tuyet have gotten into the Codrex if the Energy Storms in Karda-Nui would have still been raging due to Mata-Nui still being awake and running?

Olmak? She had one, after all.

 

 

The Codrex doesn't protect the beings inside, only the equipment.  The Canisters protected the Toa (perhaps using the intangibility function).  

If she used an Olmak, she would have been incinerated.  

[Katuko]

 

 

Your wording makes it sound like you don't know this, so, I'll say it just in case -- but the canisters have an intangibility power. There's no path that they need to follow.

Wait, where and when was this revealed?

 

 

http://biosector01.com/wiki/index.php/Toa_Canister

 

Unlike other wikis, BioSector doesn't seem to use footnotes pointing to source quotes. The article therefore only restates the info, whereas I was looking for the official source. The source list would help, but I don't have access to most of the books on the list to check for myself. I can guess it was Greg or one of the books I haven't read that mentioned canisters having intangibility powers, but this is the first I've heard of it.

 

That's a good point about the barren land being a safer landing zone. That could apply to that Mangaia landing idea too -- I should have thought of that. Especially with all those skyscrapers. Metal version of "tiiiiiiimberrrrrr"!

Well, so long as they only turned tangible again after touchdown in the ocean outside the city, there shouldn't have been any trouble landing there. The city being in ruins would just point to it being dangerous to traverse for Toa who were just slipping back into consciousness.

[NorikSigma]

 

-cut-

 

-snip-

 

Incidentally, that wording may imply she did override the original flight path, and may have had the canisters drop them off right where she was in the Coliseum.

Ahh, looks like I derped out for a second. My bad.

 

In that case, then the canister's intangible power would have let the canisters be redirected to wherever Tuyet wanted them to be, I guess.

 

And since MU is suuuper big, I'm guessing that a combination of

 

Intangible+accurate flight calculation+gravity field of MU

 

would allow the Toa to be accurately delivered where the system wanted hem to be delivered to.

Edited July 28, 2014 by Norik Of Celtania

[Katuko]

And since MU is suuuper big, I'm guessing that a combination of

 

Intangible+accurate flight calculation+gravity field of MU

 

would allow the Toa to be accurately delivered where the system wanted hem to be delivered to.

Just forgo the Toa and fill the canister with explosives. Have it phase through your enemy's walls and then detonate.

[Zox Tomana]

 

 

 

Your wording makes it sound like you don't know this, so, I'll say it just in case -- but the canisters have an intangibility power. There's no path that they need to follow.

Wait, where and when was this revealed?

 

 

http://biosector01.com/wiki/index.php/Toa_Canister

 

Unlike other wikis, BioSector doesn't seem to use footnotes pointing to source quotes. The article therefore only restates the info, whereas I was looking for the official source. The source list would help, but I don't have access to most of the books on the list to check for myself. I can guess it was Greg or one of the books I haven't read that mentioned canisters having intangibility powers, but this is the first I've heard of it.

 

Originally we didn't use footnotes because it would be kinda pointless for storyline stuff, just easier to list their media appearances. For Greg Quotes we've begun to use a ref system, but obviously some references are going to have to be added retroactively, so not all of the Greg Stuff is noted yet. Not by a looooooonnng shot. I would bet that it was a Greg Quote, but it might be in the media, perhaps somewhere in the Piraka arc or during the Karda Nui arc.

[bonesiii]

Pretty sure it was one of the books. I dunno. It's common knowledge. You could search "intang" in the Compendium maybe though. That might find it if he did clarify it (would cover both intangible and intangibility... of course, if he used a synonym or definition it would be harder to find). I don't really have time right now myself.

[fishers64]

3) To give Maxilos\Makuta the Staff of Artakha did Icarax pass through the holes made by the Toa Inika's canisters as the left the realm?

3) The Toa canisters don't make holes, they can go intangible to pass through solid matter.

Boingy.

 

Even more clear:

3. I read on BS01 that Toa Canisters can turn intangible. Is this true?

 

3a. If so, what's the point of being able to burrow?

 

3) Yes, it is

 

3a) Well, burrowing creates a tunnel that others can follow if they are not in canisters, which may prove useful at some point. Also, let's say you are after something that is sealed in solid rock far below -- you can't go intangible and then materialize near it, because you would materialize inside solid rock and die. So you have to burrow down to it.

And this is even more weird (I can't find any further denials, although it was mentioned that Nuparu/Piraka were programming a course in the books, so this might be denied.):

1) So you say that Toa canisters have a sort-of limited mind reading power which allows them to know their passenger's intended destination and chart a course accordingly?

 

1) Yes, would explain how they got Jaller and crew to Voya Nui

 

And how they got the Piraka to Voya Nui, and...

 

 

1b) Would you say that this is an innate "ability" of Toa canisters, based on their design or something?

 

1b) Yup. Unfortunately, sometimes they break down.

 

Didn't know that Toa canisters could read minds...

 

Related to the discussion:

 

13) When the Toa Canisters were launched, how exactly was it intended that they should reach their destination from their original location? I mean, if everyone lives inside of domes, why was it a good idea to shoot a bunch of canisters into the air and expect they'd reach another dome?

 

13) The intent was they would wind up on the island of Mata Nui and then make their way down. The reason for this was that it was reasonable to assume something bad had happened on Metru Nui if the Great Spirit was in such bad shape, so sending them directly there would have put the Toa at risk.

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I was actually just going to start a topic discussing the reason for the Piraka and Jaller&Co making it to Voya-Nui just by getting into their canisters, so thank you fishers64 for that awesome info.