Should they Have Put a Bohrok in the Bionicle Stars Collection?

[Fang RRB]

Edited August 5, 2014 by Fang RRB

[TERIDAX941]

Not exactly sure how they'd fit it into the story (maybe the return of a Kal or something, because the Bohrok didn't care one way or another if Makuta was in charge or not) but it'd be cool to have a "pocket version" of those guys... it'd be quite a challenge making one using just the "av-matoran" body style like they did with the other characters.

[Fang RRB]

Not exactly sure how they'd fit it into the story (maybe the return of a Kal or something, because the Bohrok didn't care one way or another if Makuta was in charge or not) but it'd be cool to have a "pocket version" of those guys... it'd be quite a challenge making one using just the "av-matoran" body style like they did with the other characters.

Yea, a pocket version of a Kal or and Normal one would be pretty awesome!!

[Jakura Nuva]

Well, for collectibility's sake I can see that happening; but I think the point of the Stars was not just to give us fans new version of famous characters, but also to give us pairs of arch-enemies. That's why it's Gresh vs

The Skrall, Takanuva vs the Rahkshi, and Tahu vs The Skakdi (Nektann). While the Bohrok-Kal was certainly a tough foe for Tahu, I think the Piraka were definitely his match on the battlefield.

Also, with the way the story was going, it wouldn't make much sense to include the Bohrok or Bohrok-Kal.

Edited July 23, 2014 by Jakura Nuva

[Aanchir]

No. While Bohrok are definitely one of the most distinctive BIONICLE foes (especially since they were released at the theme's peak in 2002), I can't think of any way the LEGO Group COULD have released a Bohrok with the budget for the BIONICLE Stars. Even the Rahkshi took some very creative design and engineering. A Bohrok's round shape would be hard to realize using the parts that were in production in 2010 or even a small number of new parts. And a lot of the Bohrok's charm was in its multitude of functions, which could not in any way be preserved in a set that small and simple.

 

As far as story is concerned, that would have been written around the sets anyway, and I have no doubt Greg could have come up with an excuse for why the Bohrok would be fighting the Toa again. But the sets themselves would be the greater obstacle in this case.

[bonesiii]

My first thought was "the robot is standing -- the island can't possibly need cleaned." Then I reconsidered, because if the Makuta could have found a way to convince the Bahrag the Bohrok were indeed being sent out onto a camouflage (mental illusion maybe?), and the people they were fighting on Bara Magna were aliens invading the island, then his army there could get a boost (they'd try to Krana everybody). Dunno if he'd need to give each Krana an illusion too to keep them from putting two and two together when the see the giant fighting in the distance though, and getting them to the battle might be tricky.

 

Still, a little convoluted. In this case story problems with it just might override (maybe actually did) any desire to have them as sets. Plus, a Bohrok's function was pretty dependant on its set design (and they already did a second wave of the same basic design once), so it's hard to see what a Stars version would be able to do with it well. Still, it could have worked, I suppose. 

[I Exist]

I think it's unlikely. There is already 12 Bohrok sets (normal + kal). Also, the Bohrok are already pretty small set.

I mean, if you compare them with the other stars, the Bohrok are already about the size of the stars, but with more pieces and more functions.

I think a smaller Bohrok or a same-sized Bohrok with less pieces and less functions would have simply been a commercial failure. 

[Toa Smoke Monster]

If they would've had the Av-Matoran body design, then no. I just can't see a Bohrok set like that. I can't even imagine what its head would've looked like.

[Boidoh]

I can't believe no one brought up The Kingdom yet.

In The Kingdom Alternate Universe the Bohrok helped the Matoran and others living on Mata Nui because Mata Nui died and they had no reason to clear the island. So I suppose they could be good guys and battle off the bad guys. Also, I believe Bohrok fought some Rahkshi in Metru Nui at one point. Just have a Toa of Sonics awake them.

 

Or Teridax could have fooled them into thinking Bara Magna is Mata Nui and have them try to destroy the planet.

[Sir Kohran]

In the Stars' context as a 'greatest hits' collection, it would've been nice to have the most iconic beings from 2002 (the highest selling year) included, and in terms of story a way could probably have been found to work one or more Bohrok into the climax.

 

That said, they already had an early 00s villain with the Rahkshi, and as Aanchir said, it's doubtful that the available parts and reduced approach at that time could've really done justice to the original Bohrok design.

[fishers64]

No. 

 

It's not like Bohrok were representative of the entire line, they would be difficult to build as anything but Bohrok, and they would need some complicated excuse to be there that the other enemies would not. I'm glad that they didn't mangle the unique Bohrok set forms or their somewhat middle-of-road moral stance by bringing them back. 

[Manducus]

I would imagine it would've been difficult trying to turn a Bohrok into a sphere with an Agori torso.

Edited July 24, 2014 by Regicidal Kaiser Manducus

[Tahu3.0]

i don't think that lego would put bohrok to the bionicle star sets because to make a bohrok you need a lot of pieces and the bohrok were represented 2 times with the bohrok and the bohrok kal. 

[ShadowVezon]

What everyone else has said, basically. Lack of budget means they wouldn't be able to make them unless they were extremely watered down, which would be very unlikely to work, and would look terrible if they did.

 

That said, it would have been interesting to see if they had a bigger budget, but then I suppose we wouldn't have had the Stars at all, we'd have had the dinosaurs that were planned.

Edited July 26, 2014 by Neo ShadowVezon

[ShadowBionics]

As much as I would have liked to see one, it wouldn't be a good idea. As others pointed out, it'd have been a commerical failure overall. The Rahshki took some bit of work to duplicate the overall shape, but the Bohrok would have taken even more to the point it would be a financial loss, and it'd be even more of a kick in the teeth if they didn't sell well enough. The head would probably have to either be made of several new pieces with some old ones, or a brand new solid piece like with the Rahkshi head/spine, and imaging a solid pice Bohrok head on an Av-Matoran body sends bad vibes down my spine. And also, I think they'd have to make new Krana as well if they're keeping with the same function, seeing as the stars ditched the old heads in favor of Glatorian or Av-Matoran heads. Or it could be like with the Rahkshi that lacked a Kraata and the Krana is left out altogether. And that's not including the Bohrok's overall shape, look, and some of the gimmicks, although the latter could be omitted.

 

In terms of story, the Bohrok could be the good guys in helping fight off Makuta's forces, seeing as they did help the Toa in other situations. Not just on Mata Nui (doesn't anyone remember Tahu leading a Tahnok army?), but again on Metru Nui when the signal was "faked" to awaken them, and then someone mentioned the Kingdom universe where they did help out in various labor works. So maybe it wouldn't be hard to work them into the story. Either them, or the return of the Kal. With the exception of Levak-Kal, the others were all destroyed, so I guess the answer is obvious as to who would represent them. Although their main purpose and reason for being antagonists was because the Toa Nuva interfered with the Bahrag and the Swarms' mission, and that was completed. So if Levak-Kal were to appear, it'd be almost pointless unless it were to be a good guy as well, or just be there like "hey buddy, how's it going?"

[Takhamavahu]

It would have been nice. It was supposed to be a series of tributes to major parts of Bionicle, and I think a Bohrok deserved to be one of them rather than two characters from the same Glatorian series.

[Makuta_of_Oz]

They could've substituted the baterra. The Bohrok were based off them AND they were going to be 2010 sets before they decided to ban the toyline.

[Shadow Destroyer]

A cool idea, but it would've been probably too hard a task to turn it into a smaller set. 

[silo]

In terms of story, Greg could have probably "explained it away" (makuta controlling/possesing a bohrok etc).

In terms of sets, not so easy; the design of the av-matoran bodies would not allow for the bohrok's shape even with lots of new pieces like the rahkshi.

Even though in my opinion the bohrok are equally if not more important than the piraka story-wise (who did get a stars version) they were just not posible to make using the build.

 

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[Lyichir]

They could've substituted the baterra. The Bohrok were based off them AND they were going to be 2010 sets before they decided to ban the toyline.

The baterra wouldn't have fit in with the concept of the Bionicle Stars (which were meant largely as a tribute to past characters and sets). The Bionicle Stars weren't the most successful line already—can you imagine how much worse a character only the most dedicated fans had heard of would sell?

 

And "ban the toyline" is about the most awkward and inaccurate phrasing ever. Bionicle just ended. There was no malice or shame involved, Lego just saw the writing on the wall and wanted to bring it to a close before Bionicle's sales picture turned from a long-standing success story to a failure that would leave a bad taste in retailers' (and publishers') mouths. Bionicle's return next year seems to prove that they think buyers and retailers are willing to give it a second chance, whereas if they kept it going until it actually became a resounding failure it would be much longer before we saw it again if it ever returned at all.

[bonesiii]

They could've substituted the baterra.

That's actually a good idea. But it would still require another different mold like with the Bohrok, plus it wouldn't actually fit the Stars theme.

[Kaxix]

I guess they couldn't find a way to recreate a smaller version of a Bohrok without changing it too much. Personally I think a Bohrok should've been part of the Stars.

[Airoski]

Yes, they were an important part of Bionicle's history and should have been included. While far too many were released (we really didn't need the Bohrok Kal...), the Bohrok design was a pretty impressive combination of tropes in toy design. It was a buildable action figure with an attack gimmick, a launch gimmick, and it could transform.

Though, I appreciate it would have been difficult given the budget. I'm sure with enough innovation they could have built a mini Bohrok with the available parts. Then they could call it a Baterra and we'd all be happy.

[Kovika: Visorak Lord]

Honestly, the best way to end an amazing series is to end it with one look back, I think that a bohrok in the stars line would have been amazing. If they would have added one thing from each year, that would be the best close they could have had.

Edited July 29, 2014 by Makaru
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[believe victims]

Honestly, the best way to end an amazing series is to end it with one look back, I think that a bohrok in the stars line would have been amazing. If they would have added one thing from each year, that would be the best close they could have had.

 

...why are you typing in white?

 

I think putting a bohrok in the Bionicle Stars is the perfect way to completely ruin everything that made the Bohrok enjoyable as sets by forcing them into the horrid Av-Matoran build

[Kovika: Visorak Lord]

Typing in white, no idea, fixed that.

[Pohatu: Uniter of Stone]

Lehvahk Kal is floating in space, listening to our conversation. Besides, the Bohrok/Bohrok-Kal were the most "pocket-sized" of all Bionicle sets, IMO.

[Toa Brian Nuva]

I think a tarakava would of been perfect. just a mini tarakava to punch people in the face. the actual execution of the set would probably be horrendous.

[specsowl]

Story-wise, no. Bohrok were automatons and not really "villains" per-se. However, I will agree I would have much rathered them than Rahkshi, though I'd want them to still roll up.  

[Nato G]

I don't think it would have worked as a set, but if Bionicle had continued, perhaps they might have later featured in the story. One of the incomplete plotlines where Bionicle left off was the threat of the Baterra, who were the Great Being's prototype for what later became the Bohrok. They had blades, buzzsaws, and were able to shapeshift. They were also excellent strategists, so I think a Bohrok versus Baterra battle would have been awesome.

 

But who knows what the future may hold...