Archon~ Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 So I was reading the Makuta page and noticed it said Mutran was the Makuta of the central area of the Southern Continent. Well, isn't Voya Nui the central area of the Southern Continent? Wouldn't that make him the Makuta of Voya Nui? Just an thought. Quote Archon *** "For one to truly feel alive, the person must kill oneself a little bit each and every day." Check out my MOC, one of the new generation of Toa on Spherus Magna! ***Toa Kyraan*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 1st Shadow Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Voya Nui is part of the central area. That makes him the Makuta of Voya Nui+surrounding area. Quote ~Your friendly, neighborhood Shadow ~Credit for Avatar and Banner goes to NickonAquaMagna~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorikSigma Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Since Voya Nui is in the centre of the Southern Continent, I guess he would have jurisdiction there. Bear in mind though that Makuta don't really involve themselves in their respective areas. Quote BZPRPG ARC 3 / Breaking Point Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lorax Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 The political borders of Mutran's domain may not have exactly matched onto the geological faultlines along which Voya Nui would break during the Great Cataclysm, but it is fair to say that there was probably a strong overlap. I'll add to this that I can't recall a time before the GC when that area was referred to as "Voya Nui". I think that name only came up after it had become an island, rather than a patch of the Southern Continent. Even in the Mutran Chronicles, he refers to it this way: I was given the center section of the Matoran mainland. Had the region been called Voya Nui at the time, why wouldn't have have just used the name? He would certainly know the name, it being his domain, and it would make a clearer record. From an out-of-universe perspective, a similar argument can be made. Had the region really been called Voya Nui, Greg probably would have just said "Voya Nui" in that bit. We know how he often makes these kinds of connections between the current action in a story and some tidbit tying into the past of something else. Lots of other Makuta got their regions of oversight filled in and defined when they didn't work into the written story at all, so why would he suddenly be very vague about this one when it was actually relevant to a serial? The answer is that Mutran's region and Voya Nui were not (completely) the same place. They had no reason to be, since before the GC, nobody knew where that chunk of land would break up, so those lines weren't plotted on any map. Mutran's region may have had another name in-universe that was used by the Matoran in the region to describe their homeland, but with the difficulties of getting names through legal, that name was never reveled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorikSigma Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) Quite true. It's probably safe to say that there was a general overlap, and Mutran not referring to it as Voya Nui would make sense. Edited August 11, 2014 by Norik Of Celtania Quote BZPRPG ARC 3 / Breaking Point Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Had the region been called Voya Nui at the time, why wouldn't have have just used the name?I'm not sure from your wording, but it seems to imply you may be under the impression the entire area encompassed Voya Nui, perhaps due to that one tentative map which shows VN as waaaay too big (the hole that size of island would make in the giant robot would pretty much instantly flood it). The actual VN area is a tiny dot within the central Southern Continent -- so even if the region was always called Voya Nui, no reason to expect Mutran to mention it in a summary statement of all of his territory. However, I agree it was almost certainly not called Voya Nui then. "Voya" is obviously from English "voyage" and makes the most sense as the name they gave the island that was made out of land that "took a voyage". So, right conclusion, wrong logic to get there (sounds like). Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lorax Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 It isn't just english. Voya Nui means "Great Journey" in Matoran, so unless there was some prophetic naming going on back in the early MU, I think it's safe to say that that is what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALVIS Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) Yes, Mutran was the Makuta of Voya Nui, though it was not called that at the time. The joke, of course, is that he was so neglectful of the region, he entirely failed to notice when it actually left the known universe after the Great Cataclysm. He's just that absentminded. ...I was given the center section of the Matoran mainland. (Not that I ever paid much attention to what was going on there, being too busy with my experiments. Really, who cared what happened to a few Matoran here or there? There were always more where they came from.) Edited August 12, 2014 by Yaldabaoth Quote "You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." -- Harlan Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon~ Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 So, I get that he might have been the Makuta of that region, maybe even surrounding it, but then how big is Voya Nui really? 1 Quote Archon *** "For one to truly feel alive, the person must kill oneself a little bit each and every day." Check out my MOC, one of the new generation of Toa on Spherus Magna! ***Toa Kyraan*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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