What's the purpose of the second face on the Kraahkan?

[flynn58]

Title says it all, really. What's up with the second face? It makes sense on Vezon, since he's got the Mask of Life stuck to his head, but what's going on with Teridax?

[randomreviewerbros]

Well I have no idea, I've even wondered this myself before, but maybe its something to do with a him being able to disguise as someone else or something like that, but  I don't know what the reason could be

[The Lorax]

It is because the Makuta is two-faced, i.e. duplicitous. As far as I know, the second face doesn't serve any in-story functional purpose beyond that symbolism, since it would be a very weak disguise, and he does have the power of shapeshifting anyway.

[dviddy]

The second face (the tall one) is the merged form of the MoS and the MoL. Compare the three together- the mouth on the flipped mask is the MoL's mouth, with the MoL's eyes and brow, but the MoS's forehead and vents.

[flynn58]

The second face (the tall one) is the merged form of the MoS and the MoL. Compare the three together- the mouth on the flipped mask is the MoL's mouth, with the MoL's eyes and brow, but the MoS's forehead and vents.

That actually makes so much sense.

 

But in that case, shouldn't the Takutanuva combiner set show the Kraahkan flipped to represent the Mask of Light and Shadow?

 

And if it's the case, why do other sets that use the Kraahkan (e.g. Icarax) have the MoLaS face if they never possess such a mask?

[ShadowBionics]

One thing i have heard that aside from it being Takutanuva/Makuta faces is that it's just simply an alternate way to wear the mask. The side that Makuta wears it is the "irregular" Kanohi position, which Icarax wears as well. The other being the "regular" Kanohi position, if say a Toa could wear it without the mask harming/destroying them first. I forgot who said it this way, but that was what made sense to me for the last decade or so. I didn't even think about it being for Takutanuva until much later on, mainly since the mask and head look weird and disproportionate when you do put it in the regular position. 

 

So unless I am being stupid (which I could very well be the case), there is not much of a significance to the double-sided face think of the mask. It's just a mask that could be worn more than one way, one which the Makuta seem to prefer, and one that a Toa could wear if they could put it on with no consequences.

[Axilus Prime]

Pretty sure the second face was meant to be Takutanuva, and that the promo art simply made an error.

[The Lorax]

That's an interesting theory about the Mask of Light and Shodow, but unfortunately, there is nothing in canon to back it up. The MoLaS looks like this (not the alternate Kraahkan) and the Takutanuva set wears its kraahkan (meant to represent the MoLaS) in the same orientation as the Makuta set, seen here.

 

[Nato G]

I think it was a simple design feature. They built Makuta's head one way, but for the sake of people who wanted to MOC and customise, they added a second option to fit a normal head shape. What I've always wondered is why the heck they made Makuta's mask in the movies look so ridiculously different to the either version of the one in the sets for no apparent reason. 

[Toa Smoke Monster]

I believe DeeVee and Axilus Prime are correct; the other face on the Kraahkan is Takutanuva's mask. From looking at it myself, I can definitely see a mixure of the Kraahkan and the Mask of Light in it

 

And if it's the case, why do other sets that use the Kraahkan (e.g. Icarax) have the MoLaS face if they never possess such a mask?

 

The set designers probably didn't want to make any changes to the Kraahkan so that people would know what mask it was, so they most likely just left it on there. That would by me best guess.

[Jakura Nuva]

I always thought it was meant to be used for the Takutanuva combiner model, to replicate the Great Mask of Light and Shadow.

 

EDIT: Never mind, it was already said

Edited August 17, 2014 by Jakura Nuva

[Fang RRB]

It is weird, I mean if they wanted the Mask of LIfe so badly they didn't have to put 2 mask together

[Tuuli]

It is probably supposed to resemble the "Mask of light" for it being the "great mask of shadow" so I suspected they would both have similar faces on the kanohi, and I believe that face is for use as it's "true shape" and the second side being the "shapshifted form" of course, both the mask of light and shadows faces both look like the Hau to me

[Jakura Nuva]

It is weird, I mean if they wanted the Mask of LIfe so badly they didn't have to put 2 mask together

 

The Mask of Light (not Life ) was available (in two different "forms") with 8596 Takanuva, which was released alongside 8593 Makuta. So they didn't do it just because they wanted an Avohkii - they did it so you could create an "accurate" Takutanuva

[toa kopaka4372]

The second face (the tall one) is the merged form of the MoS and the MoL. Compare the three together- the mouth on the flipped mask is the MoL's mouth, with the MoL's eyes and brow, but the MoS's forehead and vents.

.....wow. That's actually pretty awesome, I had no idea.

[dviddy]

That's an interesting theory about the Mask of Light and Shodow, but unfortunately, there is nothing in canon to back it up. The MoLaS looks like this (not the alternate Kraahkan) and the Takutanuva set wears its kraahkan (meant to represent the MoLaS) in the same orientation as the Makuta set, seen here.

 

 

As far as I'm aware from discussions with LEGO designers, the flipped up form is definitely meant to be the combined mask, like I said, look at the features. It has the Avohkii's face with the MoS's features exactly. Most likely the set designers failed to properly convey this feature to the promotional departments, and the concept never made it to market even though the mask's design was long finalized.

[Matoro Lives]

That's an interesting theory about the Mask of Light and Shodow, but unfortunately, there is nothing in canon to back it up. The MoLaS looks like this (not the alternate Kraahkan) and the Takutanuva set wears its kraahkan (meant to represent the MoLaS) in the same orientation as the Makuta set, seen here.

 

But you forget that the character designs for the movies were terribly done, and that you cannot really rely on the movie designs to determine what is a canon design and what is not. Many of the movie designs were barely recognizeable in comparison to their action figure designs. Never rely on the movies for character design info, always refer to the sets/combo models/contest MOCs.

 

Whenever I build takutanuva, I always use the combo side of the mask because it represents the character so well. The movie doesn't really do the actual model justice.

[Akavakaku]

By the way, does anyone else feel like set Takutanuva is just Makuta with a couple shoulder spikes? Most disappointing combiner ever, in my opinion.

[flynn58]

 

That's an interesting theory about the Mask of Light and Shodow, but unfortunately, there is nothing in canon to back it up. The MoLaS looks like this (not the alternate Kraahkan) and the Takutanuva set wears its kraahkan (meant to represent the MoLaS) in the same orientation as the Makuta set, seen here.

 

But you forget that the character designs for the movies were terribly done, and that you cannot really rely on the movie designs to determine what is a canon design and what is not. Many of the movie designs were barely recognizeable in comparison to their action figure designs. Never rely on the movies for character design info, always refer to the sets/combo models/contest MOCs.

 

Whenever I build takutanuva, I always use the combo side of the mask because it represents the character so well. The movie doesn't really do the actual model justice.

 

Unless it's The Legend Reborn, which even kept the colour-scheme ruining red axles.

[ShadowBionics]

I always thought their similarities was mainly because they were both forged and crafted by Artakha. And to a degree it made sense that you had these masks, polar opposites, yet made by the same crafter and both equally matched in their respective element. However me being a stubborn old billy goat as some members have called me, I will probably just stick with the theories of the old forums I accepted since I was a kid since it kept peace of mind for me for years and I would rather not open the case again for the sake of my sanity. Or what's left of it.

[Jakura Nuva]

By the way, does anyone else feel like set Takutanuva is just Makuta with a couple shoulder spikes? Most disappointing combiner ever, in my opinion.

I agree with this. If it had more variety in color, it would look better.

[Aanchir]

 

By the way, does anyone else feel like set Takutanuva is just Makuta with a couple shoulder spikes? Most disappointing combiner ever, in my opinion.

I agree with this. If it had more variety in color, it would look better.

 

Well, it also used the gear functions of both Takanuva AND Makuta, which I thought was quite neat. Granted, I never owned the set and can't remember if I ever built it from my family's Takanuva and Makuta sets.

Edited August 19, 2014 by Aanchir

[Jakura Nuva]

 

 

By the way, does anyone else feel like set Takutanuva is just Makuta with a couple shoulder spikes? Most disappointing combiner ever, in my opinion.

I agree with this. If it had more variety in color, it would look better.

Well, it also used the gear functions of both Takanuva AND Makuta, which I thought was quite neat. Granted, I never owned the set and can't remember if I ever built it from my family's Takanuva and Makuta sets.

Huh. I didn't even know it utilized both gear systems. I guess that's pretty neat.

[Naota Takizawa]

I'd say it was supposed to be Avohkaan. Also, I think it's just there for some MOCing opportunities.

[Toa of Ice - 1987]

I agree that it is propably cop-out easy soultion on the designers part to create that  represents the mask shadows/light or better term...twilight mask.

 

However i've always thought it could just be a neutral position that Teridax uses when he is alone or is talking to someone he considers to be worthy of his respect but when he uses the sharp- edged position it would be intended to intimidate and cause fear because it has no discernible features in dark places except for his glowing eyes.

Edited August 22, 2014 by ---Kopaka Nuva---

[TheSkeletonMan939]

You guys aren't the only ones confused. Even Templar Studios had no idea what they were looking at, so they must have flipped a coin on which side of the mask to use and chose the wrong one. From the Bohrok-Kal Animations:

 

 

 

Edited August 26, 2014 by TheSkeletonMan939

[Akavakaku]

And then the movie character designers just gave up figuring out which was Makuta's face and made their own Kraahkan.

Edited August 27, 2014 by Akavakaku

[MrSciFiGuy]

Just a dual mask thing for when he combines with Takanuva. Just a fun thing. I recall seeing a poster that has it in use, but I can't seem to find it anywhere