TheDarkSide Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 They TEASE us with the return and then CANCEL Bionicle....FOREVER!Welcome to the modern world. Totally. Quote BZStyle,BZGrace,BZPower in your face! Best line in film history"We have an old saying too, Georgi - and you're full of it." All you need to know about me:Lifetime Bionicle fanLoves Bionicle, HATES Hero Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcom Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Rebranding the theme as "BIONIwiki, the free online storyline that anyone can edit".Sorry, that's already happened. thatsthejoke.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irrie Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Rebranding the theme as "BIONIwiki, the free online storyline that anyone can edit".Sorry, that's already happened. thatsthejoke.jpg oh.jpg Quote bZpOwEr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkSide Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 LEGO could do what Disney did: anything not in the movies will become non-canon and will not be acknowledged as being part of the Bionicle at all. 1 Quote BZStyle,BZGrace,BZPower in your face! Best line in film history"We have an old saying too, Georgi - and you're full of it." All you need to know about me:Lifetime Bionicle fanLoves Bionicle, HATES Hero Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcom Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) LEGO could do what Disney did: anything not in the movies will become non-canon and will not be acknowledged as being part of the Bionicle at all.Have you seen the Bionicle movies? As much as everything else might not have been the best it could be, if we had to stick to just one piece of media being canon, the movies would be dead last as a choice. Least of all because they barely cover four years. Not to mention that, you know, unlike Star Wars, the Bionicle movies are hilariously obscure. How are we supposed to get new fans to watch 4 old movies, the earliest of which came out 12 years ago? I mean sure, some of them are on Netflix, but stil.... I... Actually I think you just meant that as in the idea of sticking with one media as canon, rather than the movies themselves? Though...that's not a good idea, still. edit:gosh, this is embarrassing. I should start paying more attention to which Bionicle 2015 topic I'm in, I thought this was one of the general discussion topics and a serious idea. I am a cool dude sometimes, but this time I was just an idiot. Carry on. Edited September 27, 2014 by farmstink buttlass 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkSide Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 LEGO could do what Disney did: anything not in the movies will become non-canon and will not be acknowledged as being part of the Bionicle at all.Have you seen the Bionicle movies? As much as everything else might not have been the best it could be, if we had to stick to just one piece of media being canon, the movies would be dead last as a choice. Least of all because they barely cover four years. Not to mention that, you know, unlike Star Wars, the Bionicle movies are hilariously obscure. How are we supposed to get new fans to watch 4 old movies, the earliest of which came out 12 years ago? I mean sure, some of them are on Netflix, but stil.... I... Actually I think you just meant that as in the idea of sticking with one media as canon, rather than the movies themselves? Though...that's not a good idea, still. edit:gosh, this is embarrassing. I should start paying more attention to which Bionicle 2015 topic I'm in, I thought this was one of the general discussion topics and a serious idea. I am a cool dude sometimes, but this time I was just an idiot. Carry on. Not to start an argument. I love the Bionicle movies. I've bought each one the day it came out in america. They do have their flaws and are sometimes confusing. For example: at the end of Bionicle 2, Vakama says that Lhikon gave up his powers and th Toa should do the same thing, but if Bionicle 3 happens before that scene, why is Vakama talking about a dead Turaga instead of Norik and the other Rahaga? But Bionicle and Star Wars are very similar. George Lucas didn't know if would like A New Hope. He thought he wasn't going to be able to make a sequel. Bionicle was originally going to last only 1 year. It's because of the fans that Star Wars became so big, the same thing would happen with Bonicle. SW and Bionicle both have books, movies, toys, comics. Each character has a story. Disney recently decided that all the things in Star Wars that were not in the 7 movies (counting Star Wars: The Clone Wars) are pointless. That means Boba Fett DOES die in ROTJ, Shadows Of The Empire doesn't happen, Luke doesn't flirt with the Dark Side in the Dark Empire comics. LEGO could see it as a "good idea" and follow suite. And if LEGO ever decides to do that, I swear I will gather everybody in the BZP community, tunnel underground and start a colony where we ignore every new thing about Bionicle and only worship the 2001-2014 Bionicle era. People who like Hero Factory will not be allowed. Anybody caught with Hero Factory will be sentenced to The Pit. 1 Quote BZStyle,BZGrace,BZPower in your face! Best line in film history"We have an old saying too, Georgi - and you're full of it." All you need to know about me:Lifetime Bionicle fanLoves Bionicle, HATES Hero Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specsowl Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 Not giving it the large story depth it once had.Making someone like Von Nebula the villain.Using hero factory type names.Not releasing Jaller.Not releasing TakanuvaThose last two...yes. Definitely. Worst things besides that would probably be nix the online interactivity. However, I doubt that will be the case with Bionicle ALREADY starting their own hype train. I can't recall seeing any company gear up fans for a toy line. Seriously, has anyone done this? Sure, LEGO has put up some silhouettes in the past but that's standard stuff. This is next level with the concept art, twitter/facebook/g+ announcements. I'm saying this is the worst thing to happen, because LEGO would be stupid to generate this much online hype, then drop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakest123 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Make the Toa nothing like their original namesakes. I.e, making Tahu a calm and collected leader, Onua a blundering fool, Lewa a coward. OR they all have the same personality. "I'm the Master of X! I will defend the matoran/agori/whatever and destroy all evil!" and that's basically all they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayliffe Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) Give BIONICLE a really cheesy TV show where all of the characters sound like Lloyd from Ninjago and where every episode starts with someone yelling "TAKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUA!" alongside as many cliches as possible. Also getting rid of the Unity Duty Destiny symbol. Seriously, I love that symbol. Edited September 28, 2014 by Ayliffe 1 Quote "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams Twitter Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomegranate Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Make the Toa nothing like their original namesakes. I.e, making Tahu a calm and collected leader, Onua a blundering fool, Lewa a coward. OR they all have the same personality. "I'm the Master of X! I will defend the matoran/agori/whatever and destroy all evil!" and that's basically all they are.Oooohhhh I never even considered that. Yikes, that would be terrible 2 Quote . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Make it the exact same, story and set wise, as HF, and add the name Bionicle to it. Quote Embers - a new Bionicle Epic - Coming 2024 Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bioniclepluslotr Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Hero Factory crossover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDarkSide Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 Give BIONICLE a really cheesy TV show where all of the characters sound like Lloyd from Ninjago and where every episode starts with someone yelling "TAKUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUA!" alongside as many cliches as possible. Also getting rid of the Unity Duty Destiny symbol. Seriously, I love that symbol.I just had a nightmare thinking about this. 2 Quote BZStyle,BZGrace,BZPower in your face! Best line in film history"We have an old saying too, Georgi - and you're full of it." All you need to know about me:Lifetime Bionicle fanLoves Bionicle, HATES Hero Factory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 The WORST thing? Hire Stephanie Meyer as head story writer. I'm sorry for any nightmares or retching this post may have induced. Please don't sue me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrStoneEdge Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 During the last years of Bionicle I couldn't keep up with all the different sidetracks the story made. I'd enjoy if the story went back to the relatively simple way it was in the first years. Then again I'd prefer a overly convoluted story to no story at all. Hopefully Lego has put in some work on the story since Bionicle without the story is hardly Bionicle at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayliffe Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 The WORST thing? Hire Stephanie Meyer as head story writer. I'm sorry for any nightmares or retching this post may have induced. Please don't sue me.That would be terrible, BUT if that ever happened TLG would be rich from twilight FANGIRLS buying the sets. So in a way, that would still somehow work. 1 Quote "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams Twitter Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakest123 Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Make the Toa nothing like their original namesakes. I.e, making Tahu a calm and collected leader, Onua a blundering fool, Lewa a coward. OR they all have the same personality. "I'm the Master of X! I will defend the matoran/agori/whatever and destroy all evil!" and that's basically all they are.Oooohhhh I never even considered that. Yikes, that would be terrible I would die a little inside. I'm hoping that Lego has the sense to acknowledge the past without making the new sets inaccessible to the new fans. Shouldn't be too hard; set it on Spherus Magna without many references to the past, keep all the characters' personalities the same as they're not exactly problematic. Hopefully they figure out a good balance. They're smart people, I'm sure they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 The WORST thing? Hire Stephanie Meyer as head story writer. I'm sorry for any nightmares or retching this post may have induced. Please don't sue me.That would be terrible, BUT if that ever happened TLG would be rich from twilight FANGIRLS buying the sets. So in a way, that would still somehow work. Yeah, but then they'd have to keep marketing to said fangirls to keep their money flowing in. It'd probably spread to other lines, too. Before long, Lego would exist purely to make Twilight sets. </sarcasm> 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Also getting rid of the Unity Duty Destiny symbol. Seriously, I love that symbol.Actually I'm not sure that works. The symbol was eventually tied into the reforming of Spherus Magna, and that story's told now. Assuming the return (whether in future or past or sideways) has a new plot focus, a new symbol would make sense. Of course, a retelling of the same story is possible, so who knows. And I suppose they could keep the symbol just because (or maybe loosely tie it to new plot). Just sayin' -- a return need not keep that. Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
believe victims Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Your argument makes sense, but UDD was easily the most defining symbol of Bionicle as a whole (closely followed by the Kanohi Hau). While its deeper meaning may have been used in a story that's now over, and won't likely be relevant in the rebooted story, its original meaning of Unity, Duty, and Destiny could still be. After all, those virtues defined more than just the mission to reform Spherus Magna. I can't say it would be ruined without that symbol, but I can say it would certainly be missed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bioniclepluslotr Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Giving masks Human features, like noses, hair, lips, etc. Plz no. Just no. Plz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bonesiii Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Good points about the virtues. Personally I think anything with "BIONICLE" on it would be recognizeable enough, but yeah. 1 Quote The Destiny of Bionicle (chronological retelling of Bionicle original series, 9 PDFs of 10 chapters each on Google Drive): Part 1 - Warring with Fate | Part 2 - Year of Change | Part 3 - The Exploration Trap | Part 4 - Rise of the Warlords | Part 5 - A Busy Matoran | Part 6 - The Dark Time | Part 7 - Proving Grounds | Part 8 - A Rude Awakening | Part 9 - The Battle of Giants My Bionicle Fanfiction (Google Drive folder, eventually planned to have PDFs of all of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotcom Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Giving masks Human features, like noses, hair, lips, etc. Plz no. Just no. Plz.Several old masks had noses, though. They rarely ruined the deal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bioniclepluslotr Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Giving masks Human features, like noses, hair, lips, etc. Plz no. Just no. Plz.Several old masks had noses, though. They rarely ruined the deal. I mean like, what they did with the Transformers movies where they looked like aliens in the first one but most had human faces by the fourth movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liopleurodon Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Giving the sets collectible underpants instead of collectible masks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayliffe Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 Giving the sets collectible underpants instead of collectible masks. I would still happily buy all of them, undies or not But if they had underpants I'd buy even MORE 2 Quote "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams Twitter Flickr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pohatu: Uniter of Stone Posted September 29, 2014 Share Posted September 29, 2014 What if they hired Justin the Beaver to do all of the songs? 3 Quote I HATE SCORPIOS ~Pohatu Master of Stone, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhiki of the Shadows Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Just... over-simplified. End up just like every other regular theme with great sets but little-to-no story. That is the worst thing they could do. -NotS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bioniclepluslotr Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 Just... over-simplified. End up just like every other regular theme with great sets but little-to-no story. That is the worst thing they could do. -NotSTbh I pretty much bought them for the sets. Didn't really pay much attention to the story. Actually, I didn't even know where to find the story lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnderscoreChronix Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 (edited) [discussion of leaked content removed] Edited September 30, 2014 by Makaru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride Another Day Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 They for some reason tie up the Bionicle story lines and tie them into the Hero Factory story lines. My brain hurts just wondering about the possibilities. Quote Thanks Photobucket. Love you too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbert Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Just... over-simplified. End up just like every other regular theme with great sets but little-to-no story. That is the worst thing they could do. -NotSTbh I pretty much bought them for the sets. Didn't really pay much attention to the story. Actually, I didn't even know where to find the story lol Biosector 01 is a good place to start. Be aware though, it's full of spoilers and confusing for the uninitiated. Bioniclemediaproject is also a very cohesive compilation of all media, minus the movies. Oh, and the worst thing Lego, could do... honestly not bring back a combination of old and new molds. Quote My epic "Volver a comenzar": http://www.bzpower.com/board/topic/21137-volver-a-comenzar/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyichir Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) Just... over-simplified. End up just like every other regular theme with great sets but little-to-no story. That is the worst thing they could do. -NotSTbh I pretty much bought them for the sets. Didn't really pay much attention to the story. Actually, I didn't even know where to find the story lol Biosector 01 is a good place to start. Be aware though, it's full of spoilers and confusing for the uninitiated. Bioniclemediaproject is also a very cohesive compilation of all media, minus the movies. Oh, and the worst thing Lego, could do... honestly not bring back a combination of old and new molds. The issue with bringing back old molds is that older ones or more frequently-used ones that have worn out are typically destroyed, and to replace them costs a similar amount of money as designing a brand-new mold. So depending on what sort of old molds you have in mind, there may or may not be any chance of them coming back. Obviously, standard Technic parts which have remained in use since Bionicle's end are no problem. Molds used infrequently near the end of Bionicle (or ones that continued to be used in Hero Factory) may also be possible, though it's no guarantee. But parts with old joints are no good (the sole possible exception being the Shadow Matoran foot, which was remolded for Hero Factory, but was only ever used in later production runs of a single set). Parts used thoroughly over the course of several years, like standard torso or limb parts, are similarly unlikely. And if a part hadn't been used since the early years of Bionicle, you can pretty much rule out its reappearance. Personally, I'm less concerned about the use of old molds and more concerned about the introduction of new ones. Getting back an iconic classic weapon piece like Kopaka's sword (last used in Stars Skrall) would be nice—but getting something new with even more versatility, or a unique weapon type that Bionicle hasn't depicted before, could be even better. Edited October 1, 2014 by Lyichir Quote Formerly Lyichir: Rachira of Influence Aanchir's and Meiko's brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bioniclepluslotr Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Hero Factory crossover. They for some reason tie up the Bionicle story lines and tie them into the Hero Factory story lines. My brain hurts just wondering about the possibilities.Like the HF city is actually in the Matoran universe? Plz no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Lothbrok Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Not to start an argument. I love the Bionicle movies. I've bought each one the day it came out in america. They do have their flaws and are sometimes confusing. For example: at the end of Bionicle 2, Vakama says that Lhikon gave up his powers and th Toa should do the same thing, but if Bionicle 3 happens before that scene, why is Vakama talking about a dead Turaga instead of Norik and the other Rahaga? Because Lhikan willingly gave up his powers for the good of the Matoran, as the Toa Metru were destined to save the Matoran. Another terrible thing that Lego could do? Bring back Chutespeak. Quote Twitter: @enkindle_this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pohatu: Uniter of Stone Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 How about make every set a clone of the Inika build, with the only differences being color- not even different masks or weapons? Quote I HATE SCORPIOS ~Pohatu Master of Stone, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
believe victims Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Another terrible thing that Lego could do? Bring back Chutespeak. Treespeak/Chutespeak was excellent when well-written. By well-written, I mean that the two combined words should mean more together than separate. Templar did an excellent job writing it. Farshtey, not so much. He relied far too much on combining redundant words to make a clunkier word, like Toa-hero. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Inika Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Another terrible thing that Lego could do? Bring back Chutespeak. Treespeak/Chutespeak was excellent when well-written. By well-written, I mean that the two combined words should mean more together than separate. Templar did an excellent job writing it. Farshtey, not so much. He relied far too much on combining redundant words to make a clunkier word, like Toa-hero. Greg did acknowledge that he hated having to write it. It's difficult to get right, so I don't really blame him. And, the way he did it really didn't retract from anything. I, for one, would support either version coming back. 1 Quote "You are an absolute in these uncertain times. Your past is forgotten, and your future is an empty book. You must find your own destiny, my brave adventurer." -- Turaga Nokama Click here to visit my library! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adventurer Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I think the biggest mistake they could make in a broad sense would be trying to do too much with the line. Over analysing what made the original series successful and trying to emulate too many different aspects while additionally trying to put in new ideas they've thought of since then. I think they should begin by keeping things simple and not try to do too much initially and focus on doing what they do do, well. (If that makes sense). For a more specific answer I'd really not like them to ignore the themes and style that has been associated with the series, that is basically just using the Bionicle names for some generic dime a dozen line. :/ Quote Credit to Pohuaki for the awesome banner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterchirox580 Posted October 2, 2014 Author Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) What would ruin it for me is if they made it too light hearted, I would hate it if they kept telling lame one liners and the villains were dumb and the characters were corny. Edited October 2, 2014 by -Windrider- Quote It's time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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