Bionicle 2015 New Head/Mask Attachment (Poll)

[justin_verceles]

If you haven't seen the video for the new "Mask of Creation," click here: https://www.facebook.com/LEGOBionicle

 

Scroll down when you click on the link, because recently Lego posted some new things about NYCC, which I was extremely excited about until I realized that tickets were sold out.

 

But of course, this isn't "Justin cringes upon his ignorance and hopes desperately someone uploads videos on Bionicle in NYCC"; this is where I want to hear your opinion on the new Mask Attachment.

Edited September 26, 2014 by justin_verceles

[bioniclepluslotr]

I don't see a difference because you won't notice the mask attachment when they're wearing the mask. The Glatorians had upper head attachments and that was fine. Also if you are worried about MOCs, couldn't you just replace the entire head too?

Edited September 26, 2014 by bioniclepluslotr

[masterchirox580]

For me the new joints seem to resemble those used for the helmets in the old knights kingdom action figures, I wonder if the masks will flip up like those helmets did?

[Rider Of Spiders]

I don't see why this is such a big deal. Given that it's an action figure line, the head piece will most likely have a ball or socket joint. The way the masks attach is a pretty minor thing to me.

[Click]

Are we even sure Lego put the attachment point in the video? It seems likely to me that those could just be parts of the design and the actual connection point wasn't modelled

[Banana Gunz]

Like was said, how the mask attaches won't make or break anything. I'm completely open to new things, even mask attachments. I took out my old Rascus head/mask and it doesn't flip around crazy but is rather quite secure, so that doesn't seem like it should be a problem with the new masks (but there's not a guarantee, it could work slightly different depending on how the head works).

[Toa Smoke Monster]

I chose option three. As long as previous mask can work with the heads, I'll be fine with them no matter how the new masks connect to them. 

[Regitnui]

I'm not making any judgements on the 2015 sets until I physically have my Tahu in my hands. But I would like it if the old masks and heads fit the new masks and heads & vice-versa.

[Banana Gunz]

I'm not making any judgements on the 2015 sets until I physically have my Tahu in my hands. But I would like it if the old masks and heads fit the new masks and heads & vice-versa.

 

True, but in this case we're not judging the sets themselves but rather elements of the future sets that may be inconvenient for some. I'm sure the designs are will be amazing either way but some the head attachment is the one thing we have the most understanding of and it seems like it may or may not be bothersome.

 

Though it's still good that you're not jumping to conclusions about what things will be like until you actually have the sets. It's like saying whether or not a movie will be good or bad before one has even seen it. It just doesn't work that way. Now if only the CCBS haters would understand that...

[justin_verceles]

https://www.facebook.com/LEGOBionicle/photos/pcb.1505638736343871/1505638323010579/?type=1

 

Thoughts?

[Jahu]

https://www.facebook.com/LEGOBionicle/photos/pcb.1505638736343871/1505638323010579/?type=1

 

Thoughts?

 

That's gotta either be a new headpiece, or else the Glatorian one. Honestly, I'm fine with either.

[Wrinkledlion X]

It doesn't make much difference to me, but I do hope they leave an axel-hole in the mouth for back-compatibility.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Like was said, how the mask attaches won't make or break anything. I'm completely open to new things, even mask attachments. I took out my old Rascus head/mask and it doesn't flip around crazy but is rather quite secure, so that doesn't seem like it should be a problem with the new masks (but there's not a guarantee, it could work slightly different depending on how the head works).

 

Yeah, I'm imaging something similar to Cragger's jaws.

 

I'm dubious as to whether this is solid evidence on a new mask attachment, however.

[believe victims]

Can you think of any other point to having plain, inconsistent bars with little nubs on them on this mask, that just so happen to rest right against the headpiece? I'd say this is the new connection, without a doubt.

 

I'm still unsure about it. For starters, it has anywhere from extremely limited to no backwards compatibility. Also, it seems like it would be much harder to MOC with than the old mask attachment, especially if it doesn't have the friction to stay still (and, since it appears to rest snugly on the head, it has no reason to have that kind of friction). I guess it's certainly a way to attach masks to heads, but I definitely prefer the old method.

[Pomegranate]

Masks that easily attach to faces like that is a great idea and I am in total support, there's very little different that way compared tot he 2001-2002 masks. However, since folks seem concerned about MOCing, I'd say it would be nice to have a way to attach it to things the traditional way; they could do the thing they did with some of the later masks, with having a space to insert an axle in the mouth.

[boston100]

I hope they go back to the metro design. Am i the only one who misses the metro heads?

[bioniclepluslotr]

Why can't people just take the heads of old figures if they want to use an old mask, or use the new head if they want to use the new mask?

[believe victims]

Well, for starters, it's possible someone could want to combine the look of an old head with that of a new mask, or vice versa.

 

idk I've always been a fan of backwards compatibility with things like this. It's nice to be able to choose the head and mask you want instead of having the two be intrinsically linked.

[bioniclepluslotr]

Well, for starters, it's possible someone could want to combine the look of an old head with that of a new mask, or vice versa.

 

idk I've always been a fan of backwards compatibility with things like this. It's nice to be able to choose the head and mask you want instead of having the two be intrinsically linked.

I thought masks covered up the head .-.

[believe victims]

Well, for the most part, yes, but not entirely. For starters, masks like the Miru have large open holes in them, allowing you to see the head behind. Then, it makes a difference what mask you use.

 

That being said, I held no illusion of these heads being compatible with 2001-2002 masks.

[Click]

Well, as far as I can tell from looking at the released images (and...some others), it would appear they are like Metru heads, with a grey base and various colored eyepieces (yay!). If so, I'd have no reason to use older heads, as it isn't too hard to use a ball joint rather than a ball socket. (which, if you think about it, does have more realistic movement.

 

Still, it would be fantastic if there was a way to hook the aforementioned beams to the holes on the side of a Metru head. That way, we actually get some backwards comparability, even if it would involve a few extra pieces.

[bioniclepluslotr]

Perhaps even if the new masks are snap on hinges, they might still have a hole for the old masks. It seems very easy to do, but then you wouldn't be able to make any masks Glatorian style where the face is visible, cause then you just get a big open mouth thing. And that's weird.

[Regitnui]

The glatorian helmets are weird, and not Kanohi. I see no reason to include them in a discussion on Kanohi. Also the Garai leaves the mouth open, though that's the least of that mask's problems.

[dotcom]

I had interpreted the worries about the new system's MOC restrictiveness being less about not being able to mix and match new masks with old heads as much as the fact that you would only be able to use the new masks as masks, since the way they attach is pretty much unique. Older masks and helmets have almost always been able to be used in any way you want (as long as they fit...), commonly, for instance, as simple armor wherever. If they can only attach to one specific head part, that restricts things a lot. It's kind of the problem the Inika masks had, except, well, the Inika masks are just on a weird league of their own...

[believe victims]

Well, I've seen it propositioned that the new connection could slip into any two axle holes two studs width apart, like on a Y joint, but since the new masks seem to sit snugly against the head with no wiggle room, I see no reason for them to have the kind of friction that would be required for them to actually be much use attached like that.

[Pohatu: Uniter of Stone]

I love the new idea for the mask attachment. It makes the mask a little more "mask-y" than the old ones. As I have said before, you don't wear a mask in real life by holding a rod in your mouth that is attached to the mask. 

[AdaptingChaos]

What if Lego was insane and made these new heads backwards compatible? 

BUT WITH 06 KANOHI!!!

Nah but all jokes aside, I really dont mind the new head. I just want something new

Edited September 27, 2014 by AdaptingChaos