Jaller Inika saving Hali Inika Cartoon/Anime Style

[Vezon shall Return]

Jaller saving Hahli*... Helps to have a mask of "Luck". 

                 (I fixed the spelling)

 

I took this scene from when Jaller uses his mask the first time and saves Hali.

 

Ok, so I've been having fun with my Wacom pad in the past few days.

 

I tested out some transparency effects when I made Hahli's "energy" hair and the smoke effects.  

 

Jaller's flame sword was actually made on accident, when I was erasing parts of it and then found that it made an interesting effect, so I messed around with that and came up with that flame design.    

 

Criticism or compliments, feel free to be as brutally honest as you wish, because a shadow of truth never killed anyone...      

 

A few notes...

 

After taking in some of the recent comments, I took the liberty into updating the picture a bit so it is more "modest" for those who deemed it "too much" and even made her waist slightly thicker.

 

However, the implications that my artwork should be on less nobler of websites such as this is well noted, but I assure everyone that this was never my original intention, nor to arise such controversy. Those kind of sites generally do not provide true art. 

 

Regardless, I do love to take in the time to address such things. Nevertheless, my main focus when drawing this style of artwork has always been more concerned with technicality of the art itself, not whether or not the functionalities of armor is realistic, at least in the context of the universe it is about.

 

After all for you know is the "protodermis" or "first-skin" can look light and yet still be durable. The purpose of armor is to protect against possible threats, but light armor can realistically improve mobility, so it is a trade off, much like the contrast of Catwoman outfit is to Batman's armor. 

 

Speaking of superheroes in comics, there is a similar focus of detail to the female form that is very common among most, if not all, female superhero characters. That being said, I was rather surprised to find such a consensus among members that deemed my original to be "too much", but I guess it can't be helped.

 

I do hope this revised version is more pleasing for everyone. Oh and thank you all for the feedback, it has been most interesting.   

Edited October 5, 2014 by TrueshadowX01

[Pupwa21]

this is implying more than it should.

have I not suffered enough?

[believe victims]

Jaller's gonna need that lucky Calix to keep from snapping Hahli in half at the waist.

[Vezon shall Return]

this is implying more than it should.

have I not suffered enough?

 

Hmmm... do tell what implications that are implemented? lol All I see are emotions of gratification. So I do apologize if her gratification brings you suffering, that's too bad.   But do check out my earlier one's just in case it will bring you more comfort. 

 

Jaller's gonna need that lucky Calix to keep from snapping Hahli in half at the waist.

 

It's ok, her arms are wrapped around him tightly, so I think she'll be fine, but thanks for the concern.    

Edited October 5, 2014 by TrueshadowX01

[Lime Paradox]

Helps to have a mask of "Luck". 

...Is this supposed to be some sort of innuendo

 

Like I honestly can't tell, please help me out here

[Vezon shall Return]

 

Helps to have a mask of "Luck". 

...Is this supposed to be some sort of innuendo

 

Like I honestly can't tell, please help me out here

 

 

Hmmm... well it wasn't suppose to be, but it does imply that it was lucky to save her in time, I guess? I hope that helps you. After we are suppose to be "pure-minded" individuals here, who do not scuffle at the grounds and gutters of the societal browser of thoughts and opinions, also known as, the internet.  lol 

           

                                        ~Stay thirsty my friends~ 

[Tentalones]

anatomically this makes no sense... and why is their armor so far from being practical? like.... what is going on here..... why not just draw blatant p*rn, like.... you need to relax

[Mr. Cod]

Hands seem a bit small, as well as Hali's mid-torso, but otherwise a good piece.

[The 1st Shadow]

I'm under the impression that you've been hanging out on one of the darker corners of the interwebs, as Tentalones up there suggested.

 

In all honesty, it looks good, but... Seriously, what is that armor supposed to be covering? You realize that these guys fight in life-or-death situations, right? Hahli's lingerie isn't gonna do squat for her in battle. 

[UngluedBike]

Perhaps this needs a little toning down?

[Rahkshi Lalonde]

hmmm, i'd honestly have to agree w/ the others here.

 

Hahli, in comparison to the generally anatomically stable proportions, is a bit on the skinny side in her waist area, which, also appears to be lacking some important plating/ribbing. :0

 

(just a suggestion though. :t )

[UnderscoreChronix]

Could you save stuff like this for DeviantArt? That's where all the hormone driven Bionicle drawings usually are. 

Edited October 5, 2014 by Toa Chronix

[Vezon shall Return]

Even though I revised the picture, I just can't help but want to address each person. Because I enjoy doing so... lets begin... 

 

anatomically this makes no sense... and why is their armor so far from being practical? like.... what is going on here..... why not just draw blatant p*rn, like.... you need to relax

 

Again, the Catwoman and Batman comparison, they both have different functionalities, and it makes sense for the Inika to be more fast and mobile.

 

And no, I wouldn't want to destroy someone's childhood in that way. No, because by just by adding emotions between two characters that don't technically share equal a romantic relationship is enough to cause the more sensitive fans to face-palm themselves. As I said in a different post, "Some people just want to watch the world burn." 

 

Hands seem a bit small, as well as Hali's mid-torso, but otherwise a good piece.

 

I don't know, I generally prefer smaller hands that are proportional like in Anime or Manga. Thanks by the way. 

 

I'm under the impression that you've been hanging out on one of the darker corners of the interwebs, as Tentalones up there suggested.

 

In all honesty, it looks good, but... Seriously, what is that armor supposed to be covering? You realize that these guys fight in life-or-death situations, right? Hahli's lingerie isn't gonna do squat for her in battle. 

 

Awww... yes... the dark corners of the interweb... where bit-coins are suppose to mean something... nah just kidding, I've heard of things, but never brave enough to venture into it myself. lol

 

No, I've got more inspiration from comic books than anything else, in case you were wondering. Again. Catwoman/Batman comparison, and personally if I had super powers I would probably go for more mobility, after all, you can't get hurt if no one can hit you. 

 

Perhaps this needs a little toning down?

 

Haha... I did my best to tone it down. I wouldn't mind feedback on the art in general though, but if you don't want to that's perfectly fine. 

 

hmmm, i'd honestly have to agree w/ the others here.

 

Hahli, in comparison to the generally anatomically stable proportions, is a bit on the skinny side in her waist area, which, also appears to be lacking some important plating/ribbing. :0

 

(just a suggestion though. :t )

 

I did take your suggestion, but it may still be a little on the skinny side, but I think it looks a little more "stable" now. 

 

Could you save stuff like this for DeviantArt? That's where all the hormone driven Bionicle drawings usually are. 

 

I actually was considering opening an account on that website, but I haven't gotten around to it. However, I wouldn't really say my art was "hormone-driven" since I was mostly focusing on the form and not the sensuality aspect so much, but I guess it could be taken that way. lol

 

I'm far past being affected by such primal emotions, but rather look at the female form as a elegant expression of natural physical beauty. (Similar, not not quite the same way a doctor's typical response to certain human anatomy, which most people would otherwise feel uncomfortable with... I guess I'm more like a doctor in that sense.)

 

The metaphysical understanding of natural beauty transcends sensual passions, and is an intellectual appreciation for quintessential beauty as whole. The emotions expressed between the two fictional characters are romantified to express the feelings of love between two beings. One bears fiery masculine qualities, and the other liquified feminine qualities.

 

When together, the two are balanced and become spiritually connected, which is meant to be a beautiful element. Their physical image is suppose to reflect that beautiful elements and capture these qualities found within the characters in that image. 

 

However, I guess I could see why most people would has reason to assume things, which is perfectly fine. After I did ask for people honesty.Well, anyways, that was fun addressing all of you. I do hope you guys like the revised version a more than the original. Oh and please continue to offer any feedback or concern, I'll be looking forward to it. 

Edited October 5, 2014 by TrueshadowX01

[Rahkshi Lalonde]

I do give you props for your willingness to listen to critique and actually making alterations to your work based on them. o:

[BULiK]

what.

 

we, as a species, have come so far.

Edited October 5, 2014 by BULiK

[Padishah Mehmet II]

I'm far past being affected by such primal emotions, but rather look at the female form as a elegant expression of natural physical beauty. (Similar, not not quite the same way a doctor's typical response to certain human anatomy, which most people would otherwise feel uncomfortable with... I guess I'm more like a doctor in that sense.)

 

The metaphysical understanding of natural beauty transcends sensual passions, and is an intellectual appreciation for quintessential beauty as whole. The emotions expressed between the two fictional characters are romantified to express the feelings of love between two beings. One bears fiery masculine qualities, and the other liquified feminine qualities.

 

When together, the two are balanced and become spiritually connected, which is meant to be a beautiful element. Their physical image is suppose to reflect that beautiful elements and capture these qualities found within the characters in that image.

How does this even compute.

-Dovydas

Edited October 5, 2014 by Willy Brandt

[Snelly]

So why does Hahli have heels? Seems completely impractical in every sense of the word. 

Edited October 5, 2014 by Skitty

[Toatapio Nuva]

Why is there so much hatin' going on in this topic?

 

I like the art piece.

[Perp]

Hmm, I'm reminded of LordStevie's art for some reason... don't know why...

[Snelly]

Why is there so much hatin' going on in this topic?

 

I like the art piece.

 

The art itself isn't the problem, what it implies is. 

[Eyru]

The art itself isn't the problem, what it implies is.

 

Last I checked, this is a forum to comment on people's art, and not on what their art may implicate. I'm also impressed by Trueshadow's willingness to roll with criticism and even modify his art to better fit BZP's atmosphere. Yes, there are problems with the implications of this piece of art, namely internalized sexism, but I think there are better ways to discuss it than by simply throwing criticism and accusations at the artist. 

 

Saying things like "save this stuff for DeviantArt" and "why not just draw blatant p*rn" accomplishes absolutely nothing besides creating hostility where there needs to be none. Instead of vaguely insulting the artist, why don't you try to instigate an open dialogue about sexism and the derogatory ways females are so often portrayed on media of all kinds? I think that will produce far better results than simply tossing out vaguely insulting one-liners and jumping ship.

[Lime Paradox]

IMPORTANT QUESTION: why does Hahli have hair, and why doesn't Jaller

 

I mean this is a pretty standard thing in awkwardly sexualized female bonkles art but it will never not be weird to me

 

Do all these artists just exist in a world where all girls have long hair and all guys are bald or something??

[Archon~]

I like the background in this one! The expression on Jaller's face is a little cliche for me, but I love both versions regardless!

[-Windrider-]

While I appreciate your having changed your artwork to fit within BZPower's guidelines, your commentary in both of your topics has been borderline inappropriate for a few reasons. BZPower does not condone objectifying material, and furthermore, General Art is not the place for discussion of sexism.

 

Many of the other comments made in this topic have been off-topic or otherwise unnecessary.

 

So, consider this a warning to everybody.

[Vezon shall Return]

Wow... haven't you guys been busy... lol Let this madness continue... lol

 

what.

 

we, as a species, have come so far.

 

I know right? This is stuff is hilarious. lol And to think this all started be I was bored one day and decided to practice on my Wacom pad. It's like Alucard going just taking a stroll. lol (Abridged series reference) 

 

 

I'm far past being affected by such primal emotions, but rather look at the female form as a elegant expression of natural physical beauty. (Similar, not not quite the same way a doctor's typical response to certain human anatomy, which most people would otherwise feel uncomfortable with... I guess I'm more like a doctor in that sense.)

 

The metaphysical understanding of natural beauty transcends sensual passions, and is an intellectual appreciation for quintessential beauty as whole. The emotions expressed between the two fictional characters are romantified to express the feelings of love between two beings. One bears fiery masculine qualities, and the other liquified feminine qualities.

 

When together, the two are balanced and become spiritually connected, which is meant to be a beautiful element. Their physical image is suppose to reflect that beautiful elements and capture these qualities found within the characters in that image.

How does this even compute.

-Dovydas

 

 

I know right... lol It's like your're in a poetry class and coming up with random half-baked content to give the impression that you had a preconceived notion of what the meta-cognition of the current situation expects of you and how you proceed to respond. 

 

So why does Hahli have heels? Seems completely impractical in every sense of the word. 

 

Raiden from Metal Gear uses high heels, and he's a dude....   and he was able to implement combat uses with high heels. lol It's more practical if you know what you are doing with them.   

 

 

The art itself isn't the problem, what it implies is.

 

Last I checked, this is a forum to comment on people's art, and not on what their art may implicate. I'm also impressed by Trueshadow's willingness to roll with criticism and even modify his art to better fit BZP's atmosphere. Yes, there are problems with the implications of this piece of art, namely internalized sexism, but I think there are better ways to discuss it than by simply throwing criticism and accusations at the artist. 

 

Saying things like "save this stuff for DeviantArt" and "why not just draw blatant p*rn" accomplishes absolutely nothing besides creating hostility where there needs to be none. Instead of vaguely insulting the artist, why don't you try to instigate an open dialogue about sexism and the derogatory ways females are so often portrayed on media of all kinds? I think that will produce far better results than simply tossing out vaguely insulting one-liners and jumping ship.

 

 

Awww... thanks, but as nice as that would be, this is the internet after all, and it is kind of expected to have some people use simplistic methods of critiquing, while others are more open to friendly dialogues.

 

I wouldn't mind hearing people's opinions and concerns, and more than willing to make changes, if your arguments are informative and reasonable. So it is somewhat hard to get a truly honest opinion of the art itself, but unfortunately most of the input so far is too vague or unrelenting to the subject. (But don't mind humor.. BULik and hashtagfortyfive, not bad. lol)

 

 

IMPORTANT QUESTION: why does Hahli have hair, and why doesn't Jaller

 

I mean this is a pretty standard thing in awkwardly sexualized female bonkles art but it will never not be weird to me

 

Do all these artists just exist in a world where all girls have long hair and all guys are bald or something??

 

You so right... I really should give Jaller hair. lol

 

 

While I appreciate your having changed your artwork to fit within BZPower's guidelines, your commentary in both of your topics has been borderline inappropriate for a few reasons. BZPower does not condone objectifying material, and furthermore, General Art is not the place for discussion of sexism.

 

Many of the other comments made in this topic have been off-topic or otherwise unnecessary.

 

So, consider this a warning to everybody.

 

I did not see this post, when I posted this post, because you can't see new post when writing one, so starting after this post, I will definitely keep that in mind. (I'm a little too lazy to review it all right now.)

 

Well, again that was fun, as always. I have been enjoying all of this, it has been a mostly.. interesting experience so far. 

Edited October 7, 2014 by TrueshadowX01

[Irrie]

Very good utilization of the various red shades for Jaller. Also, your image of his sword is the most wicked adaptation I've seen yet. It's all FWOOOOOSSHHHH and ZAWWOOOOOGGG and all FFFHHHHWWWWWAAWAAWW and other onamonapias.  The terrain looks pretty nice, too. 

(Not sure if this has been said yet, but it's spelled 'Hahli' Sorry, I'm kind of picky with this stuff)  

[Vezon shall Return]

Very good utilization of the various red shades for Jaller. Also, your image of his sword is the most wicked adaptation I've seen yet. It's all FWOOOOOSSHHHH and ZAWWOOOOOGGG and all FFFHHHHWWWWWAAWAAWW and other onamonapias.  The terrain looks pretty nice, too. 

(Not sure if this has been said yet, but it's spelled 'Hahli' Sorry, I'm kind of picky with this stuff)  

 

Hahaha.. finally, someone talking about something that actually has something to do with the picture! So kudos to you for breaking this mostly nonsensical debate. lol Yes, I was really excited about how the sword ended up, and little disappointed when no one commented on it until now. lol 

 

I did mess around with different shades of red and this was the first time I attempted at using some form of background, but I couldn't figure out what color the sky should be on Voya-Nui? Oh and I didn't notice that I misspelled her name.... lol I guess I was thinking of "Gali" when typing it out.   (I did fix it... but I can't fix the title of the topic...)

[ZOMBI3S]

Holy lordy people need to calm down about this. To be honest I'm a little bummed that I missed the original version, as I would have like to judge for myself on how 'racy' it is. But come on people, she has heels because Trueshadow felt like giving her heels. She has hair because Trueshadow wanted to give her hair. Her body is proportioned the way it is because that's how he wants his drawing to look. I don't see anything wrong with making a female character look like a female, even if proportions aren't exactly perfect.

 

That being said, I think you're very good with colors. Everything seems to pop, and its bright and vibrant, just the way I like it. Also, Jaller's sword looks frickin rad. Kudos on that!

[Vezon shall Return]

Holy lordy people need to calm down about this. To be honest I'm a little bummed that I missed the original version, as I would have like to judge for myself on how 'racy' it is. But come on people, she has heels because Trueshadow felt like giving her heels. She has hair because Trueshadow wanted to give her hair. Her body is proportioned the way it is because that's how he wants his drawing to look. I don't see anything wrong with making a female character look like a female, even if proportions aren't exactly perfect.

 

That being said, I think you're very good with colors. Everything seems to pop, and its bright and vibrant, just the way I like it. Also, Jaller's sword looks frickin rad. Kudos on that!

 

Thanks, hahaha... it's ok, I think a few people were just overreacting a tad bit, but I don't mind taking some heat. Regardless, I actually like the final product of the tweaks I made from the suggestions.Yeah, I'm definitely going to use that technique I did with the fire sword in later projects.

Edited October 8, 2014 by TrueshadowX01