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It took 15 years...but Onua finally gets a hammer as his weapon.

 

Has there every been a Toa that got a hammer as their weapon that was released in set form? Because I don't think so... meaning it didn't just take Onua fifteen years, but Bionicle in general. :P

 

You make a good point. I don't think any Toa ever got a hammer. A few clubs, lots of axes...no hammer.

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It's still not defiitely absolutely a reboot, but at least there is some actual evidence now.

The way their bios are written, the Toa seem not to have broad elemental powers so much as they have specific and limited element-based superpowers.

 

No mention of their mask powers?

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It's still not defiitely absolutely a reboot, but at least there is some actual evidence now.

Actually, it is. I'm sure it was confirmed at the panel and the backstory video on the Facebook page is the final indicator.

 

Also, does anyone remember those Chinese knockoff sets from that company, "Blocko," from about...I dunno, 8 or so years ago? It really irks me that the new Gali bears a small resemblance to the "Nokama" knockoff:

 

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On a side note, look at the clouds on the left at 0:51. Don't they look like the mask of time?

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That's most definitely a Vahi. Now, does it have any significance or is it just an easter egg?

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I would assume it's just an easter egg for now, although there is apparently a Temple of Time on the island somewhere.


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Really neat! The characters seem mostly the same.

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So are we gonna conveniently scoot over that there's currently 39,000,000 results when you Google "women can't tell jokes" and Gali, the lone female on the team, is the character that reinforces the stereotype?

 

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So are we gonna conveniently scoot over that there's currently 39,000,000 results when you Google "women can't tell jokes" and Gali, the lone female on the team, is the character that reinforces the stereotype?

 

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I think they've copied that trait from Eris from Chima, haven't they? Hopefully Gali will be less annoying, though.

 

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After reading the descriptions and looking at how these 'Masters' look like Hero-Factory guys on steroids and have ridiculously uninspired designs, I am ready to say that I am disgusted at the reboot. I haven't been this sad and frustrated in a long time.

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Oh this is exciting. The setting looks great, the backstory is good and compelling, and I love the way the Toa come across in the bios. I do echo the hope that they won't go all Chima on us, but for now, super excited.


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After reading the descriptions and looking at how these 'Masters' look like Hero-Factory guys on steroids and have ridiculously uninspired designs, I am ready to say that I am disgusted at the reboot. I haven't been this sad and frustrated in a long 

Actually, my brother was just expressing his disapproval of the hero factory type build a little while ago. At least they have gears right?  :notsure:


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After reading the descriptions and looking at how these 'Masters' look like Hero-Factory guys on steroids and have ridiculously uninspired designs, I am ready to say that I am disgusted at the reboot. I haven't been this sad and frustrated in a long time.

I wonder what LEGO would have needed to do for you not to think of them as "uninspired", whatever you actually mean with that.

 

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After reading the descriptions and looking at how these 'Masters' look like Hero-Factory guys on steroids and have ridiculously uninspired designs, I am ready to say that I am disgusted at the reboot. I haven't been this sad and frustrated in a long 

Actually, my brother was just expressing his disapproval of the hero factory type build a little while ago. At least they have gears right?  :notsure:

 

 

I also picked up on the gears on their backs, but given that they have sockets joints, I don't see a purpose for it. Maybe I'm wrong. I haven't assembled a set yet :P

 

 

After reading the descriptions and looking at how these 'Masters' look like Hero-Factory guys on steroids and have ridiculously uninspired designs, I am ready to say that I am disgusted at the reboot. I haven't been this sad and frustrated in a long time.

I wonder what LEGO would have needed to do for you not to think of them as "uninspired", whatever you actually mean with that.

 

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New franchise; newt characters; new setting; new villain, new building system... think of how unnecessary the Total Recall & Robocop reboots were. These were still somewhat good (I'm not helping my case right now), but they were unnecessary given that the originals were so much better. 

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That promo shot is awesome. Would love to use that as my desktop background.

 

Spiders look aight. The real deal here is on the heroes though.

 

I do really love their designs. I am glad that all of them have their personalities intact but have something added that I feel will make them very fun to watch or read about in future story material (Kopaka's lack of direction, Gali being bad at jokes, and Onua snoring all the time). I think in the end it will make their conversations and interactions more dynamic.

 

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That promo shot is awesome. Would love to use that as my desktop background.

 

Spiders look aight. The real deal here is on the heroes though.

 

I do really love their designs. I am glad that all of them have their personalities intact but have something added that I feel will make them very fun to watch or read about in future story material (Kopaka's lack of direction, Gali being bad at jokes, and Onua snoring all the time). I think in the end it will make their conversations and interactions more dynamic.

 

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Have you seen Pohuta's? Where is that good old friendly nice guy? Now he's just a strong leader type with a strange fear of dark places. 

 

Plus all these weird quirks in their personalities feel odd and unnecessary, only one that seems to be the same personality wise is Lewa. 

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Have you seen Pohuta's? Where is that good old friendly nice guy? Now he's just a strong leader type with a strange fear of dark places. 

 

Plus all these weird quirks in their personalities feel odd and unnecessary, only one that seems to be the same personality wise is Lewa. 

 

Yeah, I guess Pohatu's a little bit different. He could still good be a nice guy though, just very tough. I do like his fear of the dark quirk though, I think it will lead to a good friendship with Onua, which is natural. 

 

I think the quirks will make the characters more relatable, in a sense. 

 

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I don't know, Kopaka being clumsy and not having a sense of direction just seems so...not Kopaka. 

 

Then again maybe I'm just too nostalgic about all this. 

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I don't know, Kopaka being clumsy and not having a sense of direction just seems so...not Kopaka. 

 

Then again maybe I'm just too nostalgic about all this. 

 

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I don't know, Kopaka being clumsy and not having a sense of direction just seems so...not Kopaka. 

 

Then again maybe I'm just too nostalgic about all this. 

Well, what I like is that while the original Toa did argue but eventually worked better as a team, these iterations of the Toa really specify their weaknesses, which gives them a complimentary partner. So that should be really nice to see unfold in the narrative.

 

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Onua is back and more top heavy than ever. Soo read up on everyones bios and gail is still a girl, Lewa still has control over air. and if you go to onuas page and read the tab labeling it is spelled ONYA.


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So are we gonna conveniently scoot over that there's currently 39,000,000 results when you Google "women can't tell jokes" and Gali, the lone female on the team, is the character that reinforces the stereotype?

 

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THIS.

This irks me. Quite a bit.

 

Everything else seems kinda cool though. Onua's design is a bit too exagerated in my opinion, to the point where he looks ridiculous, but the rest of the team looks awesome.  Although I'm not a fan of the printed chest plates. Molded detail > printed detail. At least in Bionicle sets anyway.

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I would've liked a few more new molds and less of the characterization changes from classic Mata, but all in all I'm pretty fine with this.  Certainly moreso than I was with 2010.


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Although I'm not a fan of the printed chest plates. Molded detail > printed detail. At least in Bionicle sets anyway.

 

 

Oh my soul, I didn't even have a proper look at those. They look so dull :(

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The only thing I am not a fan of are these ham-fisted personality quirks. It's Lego, so I can "tone down" the construction of the Toa sets to make them look a little more to my personal liking, but I'd be basically creating my own head-canon with reference to their personalities. I get a whole "Saturday morning kid's cartoon" vibe from what the website is presenting. Maybe these are "prototype" personalities, much like how the original Toa had references to their differing ages and being "incarnations of elemental spirits" back on the original BIONICLE.com (us old fogies will recall those were quickly scrapped).


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Yeah, the quirks irk.

 

 

It took 15 years...but Onua finally gets a hammer as his weapon.

 

Has there every been a Toa that got a hammer as their weapon that was released in set form? Because I don't think so... meaning it didn't just take Onua fifteen years, but Bionicle in general. :P

I'm getting that warhammer. I have a fine taste in those things, and hopefully it will be up to my standards. :P

 

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On a side note, look at the clouds on the left at 0:51. Don't they look like the mask of time?

You're right!

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That's most definitely a Vahi. Now, does it have any significance or is it just an easter egg?

 

Er, that looks like a dog bone to me. (I haven't seen you in ages! :) Welcome back!)

 

And they want us to think it's a reboot. Meaning they want the kids to think that it is. 

 

I don't know, Kopaka being clumsy and not having a sense of direction just seems so...not Kopaka. 

 

Then again maybe I'm just too nostalgic about all this. 

Shouldn't Kopaka be the one with the best agility and sense of direction? He skates on Mount Ihu in those disorienting drifts. 

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I don't know, Kopaka being clumsy and not having a sense of direction just seems so...not Kopaka. 

 

Then again maybe I'm just too nostalgic about all this.

Shouldn't Kopaka be the one with the best agility and sense of direction? He skates on Mount Ihu in those disorienting drifts.

 

Exactly! Give it to Lewa, or even Pohatu, but Kopaka can't be clumsy! That's the most ridiculous quirk of them all.

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Wait, I just realized...

 

"Tahu seems to be born under a very lucky star..."

 

Born?!

Maybe they're finally organic with actual biological functions. xD

 

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I think it's a metaphor. However, at this stage, anything is valid speculation.

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Man, the Bionicle website is evolving! Hooray!

The Toa Mata are back! Yes, our home-boys and -girl!:) I am impressed that they kept most of their personalities, but they got some new traits, which might give me either a Hero Factory feel or a China one.


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It's been a long, long time. Hau have you been? 

 

Dual references aside, heck yes! This excites me as not much has recently. The additions to the Toas' personalities are kinda neat. They've also finally unified Air and the Green, it appears. I like the fact that the bad guy is just named "Makuta", just like 2001. Notice: Okoto is shaped Mata Nui-like. Mask of Control looks Kraahkan-like. Also, is it coincidence or something else that Ekimu and Makuta have many similar letters and sound similar? Is it more than the simple statement that they are brothers? Who knows? 

 

On someone's subject of mask powers, it states that Onua has night vision. Mask powers confirmation? Hopefully.

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Somebody make a continuity crossover with the old and new Toa meeting!

 

See, one of the old comics during the Rahkshi era implied that one of Kopaka's greatest fears was to be incompetent and have people laugh at him. So, new Kopaka being clumsy and adorable is literally old Kopaka's worst nightmare come true.
 
Imagine New!Kopaka trying to prove himself as a hero and worthy successor to Old!Kopaka, who is fuming with silent embarrassment and trying to figure out the most dignified way to run away and never be found.
 
Meanwhile, the Onuas are engaged in a deep but slow philosophical debate, punctuated by long periods of silence and frequent nap breaks.
 
And then Lewa is delighted that the great beings have opted not to "mess with perfection", and that his new self is every bit as awesome as he always was. The two immediately run off to save the jungle together. Ten minutes later, one's wearing a Krana, the other's infected, and they're busy trying to kill each other.
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I would assume it's just an easter egg for now, although there is apparently a Temple of Time on the island somewhere.

 

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Somebody make a continuity crossover with the old and new Toa meeting!

 

See, one of the old comics during the Rahkshi era implied that one of Kopaka's greatest fears was to be incompetent and have people laugh at him. So, new Kopaka being clumsy and adorable is literally old Kopaka's worst nightmare come true.
 
Imagine New!Kopaka trying to prove himself as a hero and worthy successor to Old!Kopaka, who is fuming with silent embarrassment and trying to figure out the most dignified way to run away and never be found.
 
Meanwhile, the Onuas are engaged in a deep but slow philosophical debate, punctuated by long periods of silence and frequent nap breaks.
 
And then Lewa is delighted that the great beings have opted not to "mess with perfection", and that his new self is every bit as awesome as he always was. The two immediately run off to save the jungle together. Ten minutes later, one's wearing a Krana, the other's infected, and they're busy trying to kill each other.

 

Oh sure, because I didn't like the way they had been described in the bios enough already. You just sold the rebooted Toa even more to me.

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