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So, obviously, I'm disappointed like everyone else, that Mata-Nui is gone. But is he? We are still months from initial release with 5 more figures coming this Summer. I think it isn't entirely out of the question to include Mata-Nui in the "Okotoverse". I think he may return as a spirit of some kind, that boosts morale in the heroes, like some sort of god. We know that Makuta and Ekimou are only mask makers and not supreme gods like they were previously, so that gives room for Mata-Nui to be a god-like being. If he is included though, I hope they don't make the whole story about him like the last 5 waves or so of Bionicle did. What do you think he could be if he does return?

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So, obviously, I'm disappointed like everyone else, that Mata-Nui is gone. But is he? We are still months from initial release with 5 more figures coming this Summer. I think it isn't entirely out of the question to include Mata-Nui in the "Okotoverse". I think he may return as a spirit of some kind, that boosts morale in the heroes, like some sort of god. We know that Makuta and Ekimou are only mask makers and not supreme gods like they were previously, so that gives room for Mata-Nui to be a god-like being. If he is included though, I hope they don't make the whole story about him like the last 5 waves or so of Bionicle did. What do you think he could be if he does return?

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Ekimu wasn't any character at all previously. In fact, if anything, Ekimu and the new Makuta seem to resemble the characters of Artahka and Karzahni - and not just because of the Mask of Creation.

I have no real opinion on whether or not Mata Nui should return; but I do think that it could be done very wrong, so I quite hope it isn't.

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I also agree with his points regarding Ekimu & Makuta seeming more alike to Artahka & Karzahni than the Mata-Nui & Makuta of old.

This. In my mind, they are an alt. version of them already.

 

I wouldn't be opposed to Mata Nui returning. Just don't: 

 

A) do the giant robot again

 

B) goof Mata Nui up. The being needs a freaky cool intro, for starters. 

 

I'm not sure that he should return, because that could cause backstory problems and make it so that Ekimu's role is undermined pretty badly. :shrugs:

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I must say I would have rathered they re-used Mata Nui AND Makuta, or not use either. It does feel kind of odd having one without the other. :P That being said I'm guessing they decided the Makuta name was iconic to the line similar to the Toa Mata, whereas Mata Nui who appeared exclusively in the media and story until the end of the original series probably wasn't particularly iconic for the line to the majority of fans.

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Yeah I have to agree with Adventurer. While I like the name Ekimu, if you are going to change one at least change the other. Both or none. Don't be half-asseted.

 

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The main reason Ekimu is NOT Mata Nui is that unlike Makuta (whose role remains similar), Ekimu does NOT fill the same role as Mata Nui did. Ekimu is ACTUALLY Makuta's brother and equal, unlike Mata Nui, who was only considered Makuta's brother due to the latter's delusions of grandeur. And of course, unlike Mata Nui, Ekimu is not a giant robot lying under Okoto. Makuta, on the other hand, is essentially the same character he was originally—a scheming, jealous leader who chose to forsake his duty in a bid for ultimate power. Thus his name remains the same.

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The name choices make sense to me. This Makuta is still very much like his old counterpart. (And come on, it's almost universally agreed upon as a great villain name. :P) Plus, Teridax wasn't exactly called that in the later years after all.

 

But Ekimu is radically different from Mata Nui, and Mata Nui was heavily featured when last BIONICLE was prominent. That would have definitely been a little confusing to some, which is something they are rightfully trying to avoid doing.

 

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Disappointed like everyone else that Mata-Nui is gone? That's quite an assumption. 

 

I like everything being different. I enjoyed Bionicle for many years and the saga of Makuta versus Mata-Nui, but I am excited for the newness of what Okoto has in store and Ekimu and Makuta's roles in everything. The whole series looks fun and exciting and I can only hope that the story contains the same amount of mystery. Also Makuta is Makuta again. Yes. 

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The main reason Ekimu is NOT Mata Nui is that unlike Makuta (whose role remains similar), Ekimu does NOT fill the same role as Mata Nui did. Ekimu is ACTUALLY Makuta's brother and equal, unlike Mata Nui, who was only considered Makuta's brother due to the latter's delusions of grandeur. And of course, unlike Mata Nui, Ekimu is not a giant robot lying under Okoto. Makuta, on the other hand, is essentially the same character he was originally—a scheming, jealous leader who chose to forsake his duty in a bid for ultimate power. Thus his name remains the same.

Seems weird though. If Mata Nui ends up being a name for something in future story, I can see this being the case. But right now, it seems they have adapted Ekimu's character from the original Legend of Mata Nui and re imagined it a lot. It's a parallel between brothers, which is what the Legend of Mata Nui and Makuta was.

 

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