Toa Rudysaurus Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 So, obviously, I'm disappointed like everyone else, that Mata-Nui is gone. But is he? We are still months from initial release with 5 more figures coming this Summer. I think it isn't entirely out of the question to include Mata-Nui in the "Okotoverse". I think he may return as a spirit of some kind, that boosts morale in the heroes, like some sort of god. We know that Makuta and Ekimou are only mask makers and not supreme gods like they were previously, so that gives room for Mata-Nui to be a god-like being. If he is included though, I hope they don't make the whole story about him like the last 5 waves or so of Bionicle did. What do you think he could be if he does return? Quote JOIN THE COURT OF TURTLES AND BE CARRIED OFF BY THE GREAT ONE INTO THE GREAT BEYOND http://steamcommunity.com/groups/COURTOFTURTLES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordofBionicles Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 well after Ekimu and Makuta fell asleep everything went dark and it sarted to rain, coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chro Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 So, obviously, I'm disappointed like everyone else, that Mata-Nui is gone. But is he? We are still months from initial release with 5 more figures coming this Summer. I think it isn't entirely out of the question to include Mata-Nui in the "Okotoverse". I think he may return as a spirit of some kind, that boosts morale in the heroes, like some sort of god. We know that Makuta and Ekimou are only mask makers and not supreme gods like they were previously, so that gives room for Mata-Nui to be a god-like being. If he is included though, I hope they don't make the whole story about him like the last 5 waves or so of Bionicle did. What do you think he could be if he does return?Not everyone is.Ekimu wasn't any character at all previously. In fact, if anything, Ekimu and the new Makuta seem to resemble the characters of Artahka and Karzahni - and not just because of the Mask of Creation.I have no real opinion on whether or not Mata Nui should return; but I do think that it could be done very wrong, so I quite hope it isn't. Quote save not only their lives but their spirits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pohatu: Uniter of Stone Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Yeah, I guess the Mask of Control would be a better fit than the Mask of Alternate futures for Karzahni actually. 2 Quote I HATE SCORPIOS ~Pohatu Master of Stone, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltex Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I agree with Chro - I don't miss Mata-Nui, and I also agree with his points regarding Ekimu & Makuta seeming more alike to Artahka & Karzahni than the Mata-Nui & Makuta of old. Quote JOIN AETHERGARDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bioniclepluslotr Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Mata Nui was an island. But it was also a Great Being (but not the greatest?)? And he was also a giant robot (and an island at the same time). And later he became a Mask. And later a Glatorian. And later a giant robot. What? I'm kind of glad he's gone, whatever "he" is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I also agree with his points regarding Ekimu & Makuta seeming more alike to Artahka & Karzahni than the Mata-Nui & Makuta of old.This. In my mind, they are an alt. version of them already. I wouldn't be opposed to Mata Nui returning. Just don't: A) do the giant robot again B) goof Mata Nui up. The being needs a freaky cool intro, for starters. I'm not sure that he should return, because that could cause backstory problems and make it so that Ekimu's role is undermined pretty badly. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adventurer Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I must say I would have rathered they re-used Mata Nui AND Makuta, or not use either. It does feel kind of odd having one without the other. That being said I'm guessing they decided the Makuta name was iconic to the line similar to the Toa Mata, whereas Mata Nui who appeared exclusively in the media and story until the end of the original series probably wasn't particularly iconic for the line to the majority of fans. 1 Quote Credit to Pohuaki for the awesome banner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowhawk Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Well, frankly, I am a very teensy bit disappointed about what-you-said, but for me it's just a name thing. 'Ekimu' just doesn't have quite the same ring to it that 'Mata Nui' does, especially if you're saying it with the proper 'super-duper epic narration' deep bass accent. Quote BZPRPG profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhiki of the Shadows Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Yeah I have to agree with Adventurer. While I like the name Ekimu, if you are going to change one at least change the other. Both or none. Don't be half-asseted. -NotS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyichir Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Yeah I have to agree with Adventurer. While I like the name Ekimu, if you are going to change one at least change the other. Both or none. Don't be half-asseted. -NotS The main reason Ekimu is NOT Mata Nui is that unlike Makuta (whose role remains similar), Ekimu does NOT fill the same role as Mata Nui did. Ekimu is ACTUALLY Makuta's brother and equal, unlike Mata Nui, who was only considered Makuta's brother due to the latter's delusions of grandeur. And of course, unlike Mata Nui, Ekimu is not a giant robot lying under Okoto. Makuta, on the other hand, is essentially the same character he was originally—a scheming, jealous leader who chose to forsake his duty in a bid for ultimate power. Thus his name remains the same. Edited October 10, 2014 by Lyichir 1 Quote Formerly Lyichir: Rachira of Influence Aanchir's and Meiko's brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ektris Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 The name choices make sense to me. This Makuta is still very much like his old counterpart. (And come on, it's almost universally agreed upon as a great villain name. ) Plus, Teridax wasn't exactly called that in the later years after all. But Ekimu is radically different from Mata Nui, and Mata Nui was heavily featured when last BIONICLE was prominent. That would have definitely been a little confusing to some, which is something they are rightfully trying to avoid doing. ~|ET|~ Quote E-T... Phone home. "He walks among us, but he is not one of us." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specsowl Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 Disappointed like everyone else that Mata-Nui is gone? That's quite an assumption. I like everything being different. I enjoyed Bionicle for many years and the saga of Makuta versus Mata-Nui, but I am excited for the newness of what Okoto has in store and Ekimu and Makuta's roles in everything. The whole series looks fun and exciting and I can only hope that the story contains the same amount of mystery. Also Makuta is Makuta again. Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liopleurodon Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 I wanted to see Mata Nui return with Makuta, or have neither name return. Ekimu sounds like a Babylonian god or something to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhiki of the Shadows Posted October 11, 2014 Share Posted October 11, 2014 The main reason Ekimu is NOT Mata Nui is that unlike Makuta (whose role remains similar), Ekimu does NOT fill the same role as Mata Nui did. Ekimu is ACTUALLY Makuta's brother and equal, unlike Mata Nui, who was only considered Makuta's brother due to the latter's delusions of grandeur. And of course, unlike Mata Nui, Ekimu is not a giant robot lying under Okoto. Makuta, on the other hand, is essentially the same character he was originally—a scheming, jealous leader who chose to forsake his duty in a bid for ultimate power. Thus his name remains the same.Seems weird though. If Mata Nui ends up being a name for something in future story, I can see this being the case. But right now, it seems they have adapted Ekimu's character from the original Legend of Mata Nui and re imagined it a lot. It's a parallel between brothers, which is what the Legend of Mata Nui and Makuta was. -NotS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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