How powerful would a Toa of Magnetism be?

[Aho]

Pretty self-explanatory question, but how powerful is a Toa of Magnetism? Can these Toa utilize the same powers demonstrated by characters like Magneto, such as manipulating minds by messing with brain signals? What are they really capable of?

[Pomegranate]

Probably just basic "magnetize this and that, attract and repel metals," I would think. I doubt they'd be as powerful as Magneto. BS01 lists Magnetism's range of powers as:

 

*Generating magnetism

*Manipulating magnetic energy

*Manipulating metal via magnetism

*Manipulating magnetism to achieve limited flight

*Absorbing magnetism

*Unleashing a Magnetism Nova Blast 
 

I don't think any of that really allows for manipulating brain waves, but I would think a strong magnetic field could potentially really disorient someone?

[The 1st Shadow]

BS01 has a full description of their powers right here.

 

No to the manipulating minds, but yes to things like manipulating metal and flight.

 

EDIT: Kapura'd by a Kapura-colored fruit.

Edited October 26, 2014 by ~The 1st Shadow~

[Regitnui]

Short answer? Very.

 

Longer answer: A Toa of Magnetism could theoretically stick anything to any other thing within the MU. Imagine, if you would, a Makuta being buried under his magnetized Rahkshi legions, or disarming a squad of Zyglak at once. If we're really going crazy, pinning someone to the wall (or ceiling) of a dome.

[Mailli]

In a robot where everything and everyone is metal, they could be very powerful.

[Irrie]

I believe that if they had a mental and physical discipline of legendary proportions, they could bend light. 

[NuvaTube]

Not everything in the MU is metallic. Whilst it's all Protodermis (atmosphere and a few objects aside), a lot of it is Protodermic rock and other non-ferromagnetic material, which seems to behave pretty much like normal rock and other normal non-ferromagnetic material. So if you shoot at them with rocks or energy they wouldn't be able to affect the projectile directly. But, since most beings have metallic protodermis as significant parts of their bodies, it makes them very dangerous, especially to Makuta, since even a small hole in their armour can lead to their Antidermis leaking out (explaining why the Brotherhood tried to eradicate them). You would basically be able to do what Magneto does to Wolverine. Reminds me of Blood-Bending too.

 

Actually, a Toa of Iron (AKA Toa of Metal) would be even more dangerous in the regard being discussed here, since they control metal in general, whereas a Toa of Magnetism would only be able to affect certain types of metal (like Iron or the Protodermic equivalent).

 

Really, a Fa-Toa combines some of the metal-manipulating threats of a Fe-Toa with some of the electricity meddling effects of a Vo-Toa, so in that sense they can tap into aspects of two very powerful abilities.

[The Meta Knight]

A Toa of magnetism could lift giant metal objects and crush their enemies, among a variety of other things. They are very formidable foes indeed... I'm gonna give them a 7/10 in terms of power. Like many others have stated, they are able to create, control, and absorb just magnetism, and not metal itself. A Toa of iron would probably be far more powerful assuming they have the ability to control more metals than just iron alone. A toa of lightning or plasma would be able to almost instantly vaporize their opponents... so a Toa of magnetism isn't really quite as powerful as a Toa of lightning or plasma, or even a Toa of iron. So, although powerful, they most likely aren't quite as powerful as many other Toa with differing elemental affiliation.

Edited October 27, 2014 by The Meta Knight

[Letagi]

I believe that if they had a mental and physical discipline of legendary proportions, they could bend light. 

That's actually one thing they couldn't do. Light doesn't respond to electric or magnetic fields, but it does react to gravity, so a Toa of Gravity could do this.

 

This has sort of been said, but in short, a Toa of Magnetism could influence anything that responds to magnetic fields, so almost any type of metal (or metallic protodermis), and a few types of rock (or rock-like protodermis) that contain metallic trace elements. Of course, we don't really understand the properties of protodermis, or how it mimics the appearance and properties of normal elements and compounds, but I think this sounds reasonable.

 

-Letagi

[Irrie]

 

I believe that if they had a mental and physical discipline of legendary proportions, they could bend light. 

That's actually one thing they couldn't do. Light doesn't respond to electric or magnetic fields, but it does react to gravity, so a Toa of Gravity could do this.

Whoops, confused it with gravity. Epicfail. 

[Nidhiki of the Shadows]

So a Toa of Magnetism can manipulate like... anything then? Considering all of the MU is made up of Protodermis?\

 

-NotS

[Pomegranate]

So a Toa of Magnetism can manipulate like... anything then? Considering all of the MU is made up of Protodermis?\

 

-NotS

IN the MU Protodermis is just fancy complex molecules; everything is made up of Protodermis but it doesn't make everything metallic. There's Protodermic muscles, and seas, and trees, and rocks. A Toa of Magnetism would've been useless against the Morbuzahk planet, for the example (in regards to affecting it directly, I mean)

[Aho]

Really, a Fa-Toa combines some of the metal-manipulating threats of a Fe-Toa with some of the electricity meddling effects of a Vo-Toa, so in that sense they can tap into aspects of two very powerful abilities.

Electricity meddling? Would that mean that a Toa of Magnetism would possible be able to stop, let's say, chain lightning by manipulating the magnetic fields around him/the lightning itself?

[Regitnui]

Like Nidhiki drenching that one dark hunter, they'd have to have something to work with. Nidhiki drew water from a fountain with a tornado, so a Fa-Toa would have to manipulate the natural magnetic currents around electrical fields.

[Akavakaku]

A Toa of Magnetism could give someone an electric shock by surrounding them with a spinning magnetic field, repel purely organic matter or water using their diamagnetic properties. Actually, do we even know whether metallic protodermis is ferromagnetic, paramagnetic or diamagnetic? It's hard to figure out what effects a Toa of Magnetism's powers would have otherwise.

 

Although we do know liquid protodermis can be held in place via magnetism, so it's probably diamagnetic like real water.

[Sergei Rahkmaninoff]

       So what does a Magnetism Nova Blast do then? Attract every ferromegnetic object for kio around to the Toa of Magnetism, crushing them and everything around them, or repel every ferromagnetic object for kio around, sending everyone flying into the nearest ocean possibly impailed or ripped apart or something? Or maybe just stick everyone together?

[The Meta Knight]

       So what does a Magnetism Nova Blast do then? Attract every ferromegnetic object for kio around to the Toa of Magnetism, crushing them and everything around them, or repel every ferromagnetic object for kio around, sending everyone flying into the nearest ocean possibly impailed or ripped apart or something? Or maybe just stick everyone together?

Given the nature of a Nova Blast, it probably sends out a rapidly expanding magnetic field. I think it's safe to assume it just causes ferromagnetic materials to spiral like crazy around the source of the blast. Not because that's logical, but because it sounds just so darn cool. Logically speaking, however, I think it would probably cause all ferromagnetic materials be repelled from the source of the blast.

[Akavakaku]

If it just creates a crazy huge and strong magnetic field... Well, magnetism is measured in Teslas. A refrigerator magnet is .005 T. An MRI machine produces about 2 T. The strongest permanent magnets have 4.5 T. 16 Teslas can levitate a frog (since water is weakly repelled by magnetism).

Now, there's a kind of star called a magnetar that can produce over a BILLION Teslas. This magnetic field could shred your atoms from 1000 km away, or pull small metal objects out of Earth's gravity at the distance of the moon.

Now, I don't think a Nova Blast could reach a billion Teslas, or Mata Nui would pretty much be obliterated. But it would probably be still really strong. If a Nova Blast could normally level Metru Nui, a Magnetism blast would probably rip apart ferromagnetic and diamagnetic material from each other at close range (instant shredding for biomechs), or knock over a ferromagnetic building from miles away.

The problem with this Nova Blast, however, is that anything ferromagnetic or paramagnetic will come flying at the Toa. Even if he survives he'll be buried. So I don't think Toa of Magnetism were really in the habit of using Nova Blasts.

[fishers64]

6. If a Toa of Magitisim did a nova blast what whould happen?

 

6) A massive wave of magnetic force

 

2) If a magnetism nova blast was unleashed, what would happen?

 

2) Oh, could be a few different things -- could be the equivalent of an electro-magnetic pulse, could simply magnetize everything metallic together in an area the size of a city

[Vartemp]

Whenever I think of this, I think of what we've seen Gahlok-Kal do. Unfotunately, that hasn't been very much; all we saw it do was magnetize Mahi to Pohatu and get crushed by pieces of Exo-Toa.

 

I think what BS01 says is pretty much all we've got right now. As for the Nova Blast, I don't know. I'd think it would make all metallic objects in a large area magnetize to a certain object?

[The Meta Knight]

If it just creates a crazy huge and strong magnetic field... Well, magnetism is measured in Teslas. A refrigerator magnet is .005 T. An MRI machine produces about 2 T. The strongest permanent magnets have 4.5 T. 16 Teslas can levitate a frog (since water is weakly repelled by magnetism).

Now, there's a kind of star called a magnetar that can produce over a BILLION Teslas. This magnetic field could shred your atoms from 1000 km away, or pull small metal objects out of Earth's gravity at the distance of the moon.

Now, I don't think a Nova Blast could reach a billion Teslas, or Mata Nui would pretty much be obliterated. But it would probably be still really strong. If a Nova Blast could normally level Metru Nui, a Magnetism blast would probably rip apart ferromagnetic and diamagnetic material from each other at close range (instant shredding for biomechs), or knock over a ferromagnetic building from miles away.

The problem with this Nova Blast, however, is that anything ferromagnetic or paramagnetic will come flying at the Toa. Even if he survives he'll be buried. So I don't think Toa of Magnetism were really in the habit of using Nova Blasts.

^This guy right here.

 

 

 

 

6. If a Toa of Magitisim did a nova blast what whould happen?

 

6) A massive wave of magnetic force

 

2) If a magnetism nova blast was unleashed, what would happen?

 

2) Oh, could be a few different things -- could be the equivalent of an electro-magnetic pulse, could simply magnetize everything metallic together in an area the size of a city

 

I hate to blaspheme the name of Greg Farshtey... but the latter sounds just stupid compared to the theories that have popped up on this topic. 

 

Fight me. No really. (Get it?)

Edited October 29, 2014 by The Meta Knight

[Akavakaku]

An EMP would be lame, especially since its magnetic effects would be much weaker than its electrical ones. But now... I'm suddenly imagining a rapidly expanding, toroidal magnetic field (similar to that inside an electrical current that spirals back to its opposite end). I think that would be a good compromise between destroying stuff and allowing the Toa to survive, since stuff would get magnetically attracted towards (or away from) the field itself rather than its epicenter. As for the Toa, being in the exact center means the attraction to the field of his armor and the repulsion from it of his tissues would roughly both neutralize each other.

-That guy

Edited October 31, 2014 by Akavakaku

[Lenny7092]

I don't think a Toa of Magnetism, Gahlok-Kal, a Skakdi, a Makuta, a Kraata, or a Rahkshi of Magnetism would be as powerful as Magneto. Magneto is powerful enough to lift the red San Fransico bridge, a football stadium, and a bunch of many large and long missiles and rockets. If a Magnetism-powered being from Bionicle would want to be this powerful, I believe he or she has to:

1. Become a Toa Nuva

2. Have other Magnetism-powered beings to help them with lifting large and heavy things.

So, I think that a Bionicle being would be powerful enough to control smaller metal things, like a bunch of Exo-Toa or any small objects, like ones made of Protosteel, including the Makuta armor.

Just saying my opinion.

Edited November 11, 2014 by Lenny7092