Sergei Rahkmaninoff Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Why must you keep bringing Lucid into this? Lucid is supposed to be out there, and she is consistently and realistically so. As far as I recall, no one has ever complained about how I write her. Wheras Vaalku is theoretically sane (though insanity does offer a tempting explanation to his erratic behavior) and can be relied upon only to do completely unrealistic things, consistently meriting unheeded complaint. And if you were using 'Vaalku playing the harp' as an example of bad judgement... why would you make it happen? Like... didn't you just say it was bad judgement? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) I've gotten reports about this latest convo, and it is indeed starting to look a bit warm in here. Deep breaths, people; this is still a game. Remember that critiques on a character are not (and should not be) critiques on the person playing it, and remember that everyone interprets characters in different ways. Debate over those interpretations, and what makes a good or realistic character, is great, but keep a cool head in the process. Edited April 13, 2015 by GSR 5 Quote Hey: I'm not very active around BZP right now. However, you can always contact me through PM (I have email notifications set up) and I will reply as soon as I can. Useful Topics: The Q&A Compendium | The Official RPG Planning Topic Stories: Fractures | An Aftermath | Three Stories | LSO 2012 Epics: Team Three | The Shadow and the Sea | The Days They Were Needed | Glitches | Transformations | Echoes | The Kaita and the Storyteller | Nui BZPRPG: Komae · Soraya · Bohrei Blog: Defendant Lobby no. 42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khromatose Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Name: Punch/Counterpunch/Uppercut/Weave/Cross/Shadowbox/Zerk/Guard/KnockoutVariation: DodgeLevel: 2Gender: Male/Male/Male/Female/Male/Ambiguous/Male/Male/Female Gear:· Boxing Gauntlets With The BladesThe blades usually retract and is never used when he is Punch.Counterpunch definitely uses them.Uppercut will not use the blades. Uses tonfa.Weave may use the blades but not for the sake of honor.Cross will not use the blades.Shadowbox does not use the blades.Zerk doesn't use the blades.Guard uses the blades as shields rather than blades.Knockout doesn't use the blades.· A pair of tonfa (exclusive to Uppercut, he will collect when he returns)Skills: Boxing, Kickboxing, Minor Deception and Minor Spying (as Counterpunch), Using tonfa (will be learned by Uppercut when he gets back.)Appearance: He is tall and his armor is red and silver. His eye color depends on his personality.Personality: As Punch, he is kind, trustworthy, and sociable. He fights fair and honorably. As Counterpunch, he is harsh at times, deceitful, and very anti-social. Don't fight him as Counterpunch, cuz' he cheats. Both often thinks to themselves a lot, but no one actually knows that they are actually communicating with the other personality. They both are cool with the other, but sometimes have arguments over trivial matters. As of the CTF game on Visorak, Uppercut has been created due to the guilt Punch had, but did not show, when he was told that he was a reason why Root died. As such, Uppercut is slightly more heroic that either of two. Where Counter is more of neutral evil and Punch is neutral good, Uppercut is good in general. He is fun-loving and adventure seeking. Now that the rest of the personalities are awake, the weakness of the body poses problems and only 4-5 can occupy at one time, the other being silent and unconscious. Everyone know has a true nature. The Spectrum:Lawful Good: Cross: Honorable, disciplined, and compassionate.Neutral Good: Punch: Good and tries to be the best he can. Sensitive.Chaotic Good: Zerk: Benevolent enough, but acts on his own accord and doesn't like the rules.Lawful Neutral: Uppercut: Prefers order and balance, and honor and integrity.True Neutral: Guard: Wants everyone to get along. Doesn't like the evil personalities, but doesn't do anything good either.Chaotic Neutral: Shadowbox: Completely acts on his own accord with no respect to othersLawful Evil: Weave: Like to do evil things while within the rules.Neutral Evil: Knockout: Out for herself and only for herself. Doesn't care for laws cuz' look what it did to Punch and Uppercut.Chaotic Evil: Counterpunch: Evil. Just evil. Now that the evil personalities are separated, he is now that. Bio: Punch was born on another island and had a personality defect. The being was named a name that was forgotten by all the personalities within, but Punch and Counterpunch, being the first, decided to call the body Punch. Originally all the personalities wanted to have separate bodies, but was denied at the time. Their inner battles caused a lot of stress and irrational anger. The Makuta managed to seal many of the personalities away but Punch and Counterpunch were resilient. They still continued their battles, but at least they didn't come with a lot of stress and anger. When on the island of Nynrah, he met Stronghold who taught them boxing and kickboxing in order to the two to relieve stress. They eventually get along and become good friends, besides their conflicting personalities. When Counterpunch found a way to cheat and added retractable hidden blades in the gauntlets, Punch isn't bothered with it, but warns Counterpunch to never show Stronghold. Punch is aware of his second personality. Punch and Counterpunch still hate the Makuta for not helping them split their personalities into two bodies, so they wants to rebel against them someday. At this time, they decides to stick together because Counterpunch's personality provides a cover for his hatred.When Punch and Counterpunch was on Nynrah, they accidentally had a hand in Root's death, and the guilt that stemmed resulted from that created a new personality: Uppercut. However this guilt also became the cause of the fires of his personalities to come back full force. And each one has a side. Didn't add this yet but not his true nature is revealed. Waiting for the approval. But I just wanted everyone to see. Consider this my writing exercise. And my rahkshi'd Chroma. Edited April 13, 2015 by ArcticFreeze17 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Dalmation Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Name: Punch/Counterpunch/Uppercut/Weave/Cross/Shadowbox/Zerk/Guard/KnockoutVariation: DodgeLevel: 2Gender: Male/Male/Male/Female/Male/Ambiguous/Male/Male/Female Gear:· Boxing Gauntlets With The Blades The blades usually retract and is never used when he is Punch.Counterpunch definitely uses them.Uppercut will not use the blades. Uses tonfa.Weave may use the blades but not for the sake of honor.Cross will not use the blades.Shadowbox does not use the blades.Zerk doesn't use the blades.Guard uses the blades as shields rather than blades.Knockout doesn't use the blades.· A pair of tonfa (exclusive to Uppercut, he will collect when he returns)Skills: Boxing, Kickboxing, Minor Deception and Minor Spying (as Counterpunch), Using tonfa (will be learned by Uppercut when he gets back.)Appearance: He is tall and his armor is red and silver. His eye color changes from blue as Punch to green as Counterpunch. As Uppercut, he has red eyes. Personality: As Punch, he is kind, trustworthy, and sociable. He fights fair and honorably. As Counterpunch, he is harsh at times, deceitful, and very anti-social. Don't fight him as Counterpunch, cuz' he cheats. Both often thinks to themselves a lot, but no one actually knows that they are actually communicating with the other personality. They both are cool with the other, but sometimes have arguments over trivial matters. As of the CTF game on Visorak, Uppercut has been created due to the guilt Punch had, but did not show, when he was told that he was a reason why Root died. As such, Uppercut is slightly more heroic that either of two. Where Counter is more of neutral evil and Punch is neutral good, Uppercut is good in general. He is fun-loving and adventure seeking. Now that the rest of the personalities are awake, the weakness of the body poses problems and only 4-5 can occupy at one time, the other being silent and unconscious. Everyone know has a true nature. The Spectrum:Lawful Good: Cross: Honorable, disciplined, and compassionate.Neutral Good: Punch: Good and tries to be the best he can.Chaotic Good: Zerk: Benevolent enough, but acts on his own accord and doesn't like the rules.Lawful Neutral: Uppercut: Prefers order and balance, and honor and integrity.True Neutral: Guard: Wants everyone to get along. Doesn't like the evil personalities, but doesn't do anything good either.Chaotic Neutral: Shadowbox: Completely acts on his own accord with no respect to othersLawful Evil: Weave: Like to do evil things while within the rules.Neutral Evil: Knockout: Out for herself and only for herself. Doesn't care for laws cuz' look what it did to Punch.Chaotic Evil: Counterpunch: Evil. Just evil. Now that the evil personalities are separated, he is now that. Bio: Punch was born on another island and had a personality defect. The being was named a name that was forgotten by all the personalities within, but Punch and Counterpunch, being the first, decided to call the body Punch. Originally all the personalities wanted to have separate bodies, but was denied at the time. Their inner battles caused a lot of stress and irrational anger. The Makuta managed to seal many of the personalities away but Punch and Counterpunch were resilient. They still continued their battles, but at least they didn't come with a lot of stress and anger. When on the island of Nynrah, he met Stronghold who taught them boxing and kickboxing in order to the two to relieve stress. They eventually get along and become good friends, besides their conflicting personalities. When Counterpunch found a way to cheat and added retractable hidden blades in the gauntlets, Punch isn't bothered with it, but warns Counterpunch to never show Stronghold. Punch is aware of his second personality. Punch and Counterpunch still hate the Makuta for not helping them split their personalities into two bodies, so they wants to rebel against them someday. At this time, they decides to stick together because Counterpunch's personality provides a cover for his hatred.When Punch and Counterpunch was on Nynrah, they accidentally had a hand in Root's death, and the guilt that stemmed resulted from that created a new personality: Uppercut. However this guilt also became the cause of the fires of his personalities to come back full force. And each one has a side.Didn't add this yet but not his true nature is revealed. Waiting for the approval. But I just wanted everyone to see. Consider this my writing exercise. And my rahkshi'd Chroma.That sounds like a nightmare to write him/her now, but they will be fun to read. Quote Corpus Rahkshi: Shock, Mortsia, Draco, Dahl, and Carraig RPG score card:Bionifight Infinite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khromatose Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) That's why I set the limitations. And yes. It will be fun to read. All those monologues and soliloquies. Edited April 13, 2015 by ArcticFreeze17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 You put the entire DnD alignment chart into one character.... I'm not sure how well that'll work out.... Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khromatose Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Don't worry. If all goes as planned, he will be whole. But who he will be is up to everyone else. BTW, if this is approved, this would probably on his student file, and Palma and Suvak should be aware of his problem. He may be the most mentally insane Rahk in the school. But he's second to Lucid. She's lucidicrous. Makes me think that I should put him as a Toa in The Asylum. And with that. I'll just head to bed. Edited April 13, 2015 by ArcticFreeze17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghidora131 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Good heavens Arctic, this is proving a little nerve-wracking and very interesting at the same time. ...Keep it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane-gerous Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I like to see him suffer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrd Bid Ful Araed Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 Okay, Arctic, I'm going to ask you a question and I want you to think kind of hard about the answer: do you think you could write a character with nine personalities in his head in such a way that each personality felt distinct and genuine, not just a different tacked on colour, in such a way that their actions still made sense and moments that seemed out of character weren't going to be handwaved by the excuse that its a different persona in charge, in such a way that it was clear this was character development and not a gimmick you'll lose interest in?Because, and forgive me for being blunt but I feel I must be, I seem to recall you having issues with Discord, asking to completely rewrite his personality and possibly backstory. And asking after, what, one day? Characters can take on a life of their own, yes, but they don't do it after only twenty-four hours have passed. So consider carefully whether you could realistically portray a multiple personality disorder and answer me honestly if its not just going to be each of the personas making the most broad, generic statement that line up with their morality while one or two of them stay dominant most of the time 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khromatose Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) I only asked for a personality rewrite. I made mistakes with Discord, seriousness doesn't really fit with what his name implied. As long as I think more about what I put in words, I think I will be able to write Punch how I originally wanted him to be. Faced with two fates, die or be whole. Also, I've been sensing hatred from Vahkidane toward Punch, me, or both. Not cool. Edited April 13, 2015 by ArcticFreeze17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNugget Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 So, Ultron, whats the word on Sliver and Sanu, Visorak lunch, or Powerful beasts being consumed by rage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane-gerous Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 ....what? I was joking lolAnd by the way, if I wasn't joking, it would be understandable anyway, since Punch has been very inconsiderate to Shield recently JS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silo Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) Whoa, glad I missed the massive argument Anyway, I'm currently writing a big Raith dream-thingy post. It's gonna be good Edited April 13, 2015 by 000 Quote . Kathok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane-gerous Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Oh Vaalku, your time is up friend C:< Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghidora131 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Right in front of someone else, where Vaalku has hot welding materials. The last time, where you had the advantage? you still lost. Here is the playground. Where you can summon up anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane-gerous Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 You lost because you were cheap. This time, I'm not taking any from you Ghidora. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNugget Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 And also, I recall it being frowned upon, using the gym as a tool in battle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghidora131 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'm going to feel bad for Deadeye; you know he'll die if he kills Vaalku. Remember Zex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNugget Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 What happened with Zex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane-gerous Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 no, he won't. everyone hates Vaalku. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghidora131 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I don't remember everyone cheering Deadeye either. People usually try to ignore Vaalku's existence, they get angry when Deadeye shows up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silo Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 (edited) I'm going to feel bad for Deadeye; you know he'll die if he kills Vaalku. Remember Zex.why will he die? Who will kill him?(and seriously, don't go all sarcastic "I feel so sorry for Deadeye". It's annoying.) Edited April 13, 2015 by 000 Quote . Kathok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sassy Dalmation Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Well, currently not Mortsia, but that can change... Quote Corpus Rahkshi: Shock, Mortsia, Draco, Dahl, and Carraig RPG score card:Bionifight Infinite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghidora131 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Tridax. Zex's torture festival, it was a brutal warning for the next in-school murder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane-gerous Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I don't remember everyone cheering Deadeye either. People usually try to ignore Vaalku's existence, they get angry when Deadeye shows up.I think that's the opposite way round lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghidora131 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 000, I'm not sarcastic. Deadeye is an interesting character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silo Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Ok, I misinterpreted ya. Hard to tell tones of voice over text Quote . Kathok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghidora131 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 No problem. It's just the interest is kinda drowned out when they want to stab you to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Rahkmaninoff Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 What happened with Zex? Zex was responsible for the deaths of two students, and there were enough witnesses to prove it. As punishment, Tridax allowed everyone who desired to strike him just once; he lost an arm, a leg, his eyes and tongue, and maybe more, I don't remember. He wound up being secretly killed by Shark, who disguised the death as him committing suicide because his life was so pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khromatose Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 ....what? I was joking lolAnd by the way, if I wasn't joking, it would be understandable anyway, since Punch has been very inconsiderate to Shield recently JSI'm sensitive....and now I question why I'm still on the interwebs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrd Bid Ful Araed Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 I only asked for a personality rewrite. I made mistakes with Discord, seriousness doesn't really fit with what his name implied. As long as I think more about what I put in words, I think I will be able to write Punch how I originally wanted him to be. Faced with two fates, die or be whole.Yeah, telling me you didn't think Discord through before submitting him doesn't really fill me with confidence. Tell you what, you show me you can think your posts through enough to make just Punch/Counterpunch/Uppercut seem like distinct individuals and we can talk about getting the whole gamut. Because at the moment the only difference I really see in those three is the colour you use for them, so I'm not sure giving you all nine would be the best idea So, Ultron, whats the word on Sliver and Sanu, Visorak lunch, or Powerful beasts being consumed by rage? Yeah, was sort of hoping we'd have a rescue mission going by now, Suvak didn't quite get the response he wanted when he asked for volunteers Gives me an idea though. The rescue mission could be much more interesting if they're not just carrying off a cocoon but actively having to restrain the Hordika-fied Sanurahk, Sliver and Stronghold... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToaKapura1234 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 How about a rescue mission of reinforcements from the mainland? At least Kuma would volunteer. Quote Want to solve an exciting murder mystery? Try Murder Mansion II, a new game in Games and Trivia! 8 Spots remaining! http://www.bzpower.com/board/topic/19274-murder-mansion/?do=findComment&comment=964351 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Rahkmaninoff Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 So other than Silver, Sanurahk, and Stronghold, who's still at Farsholt who would need to be rescued? I've kinda lost track... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNugget Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 How about a rescue mission of reinforcements from the mainland? At least Kuma would volunteer.I don't think they'd have time for that. So, Ultron, whats the word on Sliver and Sanu, Visorak lunch, or Powerful beasts being consumed by rage? Yeah, was sort of hoping we'd have a rescue mission going by now, Suvak didn't quite get the response he wanted when he asked for volunteers Gives me an idea though. The rescue mission could be much more interesting if they're not just carrying off a cocoon but actively having to restrain the Hordika-fied Sanurahk, Sliver and Stronghold... Indeed it would... On another note, what power would the Natural Rhotuka have with Limited invulnerability, and Teleportation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Click Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 How about a rescue mission of reinforcements from the mainland? At least Kuma would volunteer. No one currently at the school actually knows how to get to Visorak, and even if they did, it would be too far to fly. That's why we have the Terrain Crawler. Quote ~ Corpus Rahkshi: Fang | Hoto | Tube | Tear | Canvas | Garrotte | Reda BZPRPG: Azusai | Mitsuri The Scarabax Library | Flickr | Deviantart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrd Bid Ful Araed Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 Indeed it would... On another note, what power would the Natural Rhotuka have with Limited invulnerability, and Teleportation? Well given Stronghold already has a rhotuka, and it launches spinners of kinetic energy that basically work as a long-distance punch he might get that merged with him. A teleportation spinner might pop something a random short distance away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khromatose Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I only asked for a personality rewrite. I made mistakes with Discord, seriousness doesn't really fit with what his name implied. As long as I think more about what I put in words, I think I will be able to write Punch how I originally wanted him to be. Faced with two fates, die or be whole.Yeah, telling me you didn't think Discord through before submitting him doesn't really fill me with confidence. Tell you what, you show me you can think your posts through enough to make just Punch/Counterpunch/Uppercut seem like distinct individuals and we can talk about getting the whole gamut. Because at the moment the only difference I really see in those three is the colour you use for them, so I'm not sure giving you all nine would be the best ideaI was planning to get each personality introduced one at at a time. But i guess Punch's story can work with just three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The rescue mission could be much more interesting if they're not just carrying off a cocoon but actively having to restrain the Hordika-fied Sanurahk, Sliver and Stronghold... I'm still a little confused as to how that works.... Wouldn't the Visorak have to rip open the armour and bite the Kraata for the venom to take any effect on the actual characters? Otherwise only the armour would become Hordika-fied, and it'd have no effect on the character's personality. Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyrd Bid Ful Araed Posted April 13, 2015 Author Share Posted April 13, 2015 The kraata are linked with the armour, remember. If it gets poisoned, the kraata gets poisoned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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