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This is what Greg says:

8. How many Toa of Light are/were there, or is Takanuva the only one?
 
8) Takanuva is the only one, ever

 

 

I found this on the BS01 Av-Matoran page:

 

Each Av-Matoran has a higher chance of being destined to become a Toa than other types of Matoran, due to the fact they were the first type of Matoran.

Is there a source for this information? If Av-Matoran have  higher chance of transformation into Toa, how could Takanuva be the only in 100,000 years, when there have been hundreds of the other types of Toa? These two facts contradict each other. Maybe Av-Matoran are just more likely to transform, regardless of what they're transforming into?  :shrugs:

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Orokai, only a tiny percentage of Av-Matoran were outside the main camp (those hidden in various places, in disguise, by the Order), and at the main camp there were no sources of Toa Energy. Also, being destined does not mean you become a Toa instantly; Toa destinies seem to have timing involved too, and the Canister Builder Matoran in Karzahni said no Toa of Light would come unless (basically) things got very dark.

 

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It would be a cool theory, minus the fact that Toa of Lights are so rare. But the Bahrag were designed by the GBs to guide the Bohrok. But I do like the idea. Also makes me a bit sad that Av-matoran end up as mindless machines


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Only so e Av-Matoran become Bohrok, and even then I imagine its a sort of replenishment for the originals the GB built. Tanma has Toa potential, and therefore will never become a Bohrok.

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There must have been millions and millions of Av-Matoran to make so many Bohrok.

Do we actually have canonical figures for the Av-Matoran population? I seem to recall that Karda-Nui was described as "a universe of its own," so I wouldn't be surprised if it housed millions of Matoran at one point.

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According to the BS01 entry on Av-Matoran:

 

 

 

All Bohrok were once Av-Matoran.

 

So, yes, as unlikely as it seems, there were at least an amount of Av-Matoran equal to the entire size of the Bohrok Swarms at one point in the MU's history. As for Toa of Light, I always thought that if they were to hypothetically transform, they would transform into Bohrok-Kal, since the Kal are Bohrok exposed to a mysterious substance much like Matoran become Toa when exposed to Toa Stones/EP/lightning/whatever. The Kal are the Bohrok equivalent of Toa, so this seems to make sense (I realize the original Kal were directly created by the Bahrag).

 

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That could be cool, bit it looks like an either-or. Though, I wonder if the GBs planned for all the Super Prototype Av-Matoran to become Bohrok or Makuta-killer Toa at some point. You know,with their love for unnecessarily brutal countermeasures and recycling.

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That could be cool, bit it looks like an either-or. Though, I wonder if the GBs planned for all the Super Prototype Av-Matoran to become Bohrok or Makuta-killer Toa at some point. You know,with their love for unnecessarily brutal countermeasures and recycling.

No doubt they did. After all, the Av-Matoran were essentially surplus once Mata Nui was awakened for the first time.

 

One wonders what the Av-Matoran-to-Bohrok transformation-rate was.

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75%? It would certainly be the majority of Av-matoran, or there would be a lot less Bohrok and a lot more Av-Toa.

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75%? It would certainly be the majority of Av-matoran, or there would be a lot less Bohrok and a lot more Av-Toa.

No doubt it would be a majority. I was wondering what the frequency and increment of transformation were. There were enough Av-Matoran extant 100,000 years after their creation that some of them were still turning into Bohrok.

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