Kanoka Powers

[ALVIS]

So, as we all know, there are eight "basic" Kanoka powers: shrink, enlarge, freeze, teleport, remove poison, weaken, regenerate, and reconstitute at random. Those powers somehow combine to create the multitude of esoteric powers found in Kanohi masks. Greg Farshtey has clarified that a fused disk has the power of the Kanohi it would become if forged. That means that an enlarge + regeneration fused disk is a Kanoka of Shielding.

 

How do you think these Kanoka work? Would they have to be thrown in order to unleash their power, or could they be used by a being holding them? I would think that there must be some limitation to a Kanoka's powers, since Matoran wouldn't make them into Kanohi if they gained nothing by doing so. But how does the rest of S&T feel about accessing Kanoka powers?

[Boidoh]

Maybe knock it against yourself?

[Pohatu: Uniter of Stone]

Well, if you wanted to use a Kanoka of shielding, let's say a laser-shooting Rahi is approaching you. We know that with a Hau shield, nothing gets in or out, so we can assume it will do the same. The disk will hit the Rahi and activate, forming a protective bubble around it that will eventually wear off. The lasers it fires will not hit you, since they'll hit the shield. Or you could shoot yourself with it.

[Katuko]

 

Disk of Regeneration: How I like to imagine it works. Most of the disks are only made so that they can then be shaped into masks, I think. It's just easier for the Matoran than trying to pour molten protodermis directly into a complex mold.

Edited December 11, 2014 by Katuko

[fishers64]

For some reason I don't think that Matoran use disks of speed very often. *Matoran smashes self with speed disk* *runs around crazily*

 

Water Breathing I think could be useful. *Matoran clocks self with disk underwater* But for the most part I think the Matoran don't use those combo disks and instead make them into masks. Much easier to use. 

[Boidoh]

I think the Disk of Strength would be something like the Chi from Chima.

[Chro]

I think the Disk of Strength would be something like the Chi from Chima.

Doesn't that just make them into ultrabuilds gigantic? Kanoka of Growth would do the trick for that, I guess

[Boidoh]

Nope. I don't even know what story relevance those sets had. 

[ALVIS]

I guess the major limitation of Kanoka vs. Kanohi is that Kanoka would be one-use, whereas Kanohi can be used multiple times.

[fishers64]

I guess the major limitation of Kanoka vs. Kanohi is that Kanoka would be one-use, whereas Kanohi can be used multiple times.

That's a myth. Kanoka aren't one-use. 

 

Toa Vakama lost Kanoka due to enemies or them falling into molten proto, not them suddenly losing power. They do lose power over time, but so do Kanohi.

[Katuko]

They do lose power over time, but so do Kanohi.

And even then, Kanoka lose roughly 5 levels worth of power in the process of making them into Kanohi, implying that they should actually last longer than Kanohi do under constant use, unless they blow a ton of energy upon impact in addition to what gets used in manifesting the power upon the target.

[ALVIS]

Well, then, why does anyone bother even making them into Kanohi?

[fishers64]

Well, then, why does anyone bother even making them into Kanohi?

A minor thing called unconsciousness.

 

Plus also ease of use. And less sore legs/arms from slapping themselves with Kanoka all the time. 

[Katuko]

Of course it's also easier to look at something and lift it off the ground, instead of having to shoot it with a Kanoka of Telekinesis and hope it goes where you want it to. I'm fuzzy on the details of how mental control works with disk powers, especially since Matoran could apparently steer disks from Ga-Metru mentally. It was also never clear to me how exactly you "ride" a disk in Akilini. Do you grab on tight, or do you stand on it like a surfboard? Is it launched from some sort of device in the arena, or do you just pick it up and jump? The rules of the game seem to imply that you surf, but I've only seen images of Matoran in chutes clutching disks to their chest, never any art of standing on them.

Edited December 11, 2014 by Katuko

[Boidoh]

But... matoran can't use masks.

[bonesiii]

Keep in mind powered protodermis other than masks doesn't have to only be used for Kanoka. I think they usually use Kanoka for things other than self-use powers, and could make tools to carry for those instead.

 

But yeah, if they want to... headbang.

 

Okay... not the head in most scenarios (that might smash their mask!). But yeah. Or tap it with a finger really fast or the like.

[Mjolnitor]

Also, the very list of basic disks is way too inconsistent for a "build anything you want" system.

One power is too situative, one power is lolrandumb, one power is outright elemental... And so on.

[Pomegranate]

Keep in mind powered protodermis other than masks doesn't have to only be used for Kanoka. I think they usually use Kanoka for things other than self-use powers, and could make tools to carry for those instead.

 

But yeah, if they want to... headbang.

 

Okay... not the head in most scenarios (that might smash their mask!). But yeah. Or tap it with a finger really fast or the like.

Does that mean powered protodermis could be made into something wearable like armbands that activate with impact? Even made into powered armor with the same skill Kanohi are made? That would be so incredibly handy, and double as wearable decoration even when their power fades. Akilini and other games already cover the sport application well, but imagine if the powered protodermis was worn instead of thrown? Could Matoran unburdened by having to physically carry large disks potentially commission fresh Kanoka fashioned into armor and conventional tools/weapons that would make them as defensively and offensively capable as Toa when doing difficcult jobs ,or dealing with Rahi? Or even just going off and doing heroic stuff with a range of easily accessible albeit weak powers? That would be incredibly neat.

Edited December 12, 2014 by Pomegranate

[Banana Gunz]

I think a kanoka's power can be used when it hits something hard. The intense and quick transfer of momentum causes the disk to activate its power. This is just my theory though, cause I think it would be a little OP for a disk's power to activate so softly.