Later wave 2 Bionicle Ekimu set?

[McNugget]

I'm posting my theories about an Ekimu Set

First of, this picture has the mask of creation.... attached to the new head peice!

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5EdRvSKnOeLR19CWEZqMmczeXc/edit

 

Am I the only one who noticed the pegs?

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5EdRvSKnOeLVlE4Y2dwRnlxbnM/edit

 

 

Anyone agree? If the are going to bring in ekimu, The bring in his brother, Makuta!

[Pohatu: Uniter of Stone]

Um, you might want to allow access to the google doc. It won't let me access it.

[McNugget]

oh.... sorry, ill fix it

Fixed!

[UngluedBike]

Everyone saw the pegs. The only reason the mask of creation is the centrepiece is because gen 1 fans will recognize it.

[Toa Green Ninja]

Well, there is already an existing mold for the Mask of Creation, as well. It was used for the 14 karat gold version at NYCC.

 

Anyway, I'm pretty confident we'll be seeing an Ekimu set in the summer wave. Maybe even Makuta. Ekimu - The Mask Maker and Makuta - The Mask Hoarder would be pretty awesome set names, if I do say so myself. I'm expecting them to have Protector sized builds, but possibly more bulky with gearboxes. And I can easily imagine the Elemental Blasters being used in the hammers!

Edited December 12, 2014 by Toa Green Ninja

[McNugget]

Ekimu would look a little more like Onua, i coulds see the hammer being a Gatling gun

[UngluedBike]

Well, there is already an existing mold for the Mask of Creation, as well. It was used for the 14 karat gold version at NYCC.

 

Anyway, I'm pretty confident we'll be seeing an Ekimu set in the summer wave. Maybe even Makuta. Ekimu - The Mask Maker and Makuta - The Mask Hoarder would be pretty awesome set names, if I do say so myself. I'm expecting them to have Protector builds builds, but possibly more bulky. And I can easily imagine the Elemental Blasters to be used as hammers!

If anything, they should be big bulky titans. Think Axonn.

[Chro]

Nah, they look more like Protectors in the animation... which doesn't mean they couldn't transform, I guess.

I don't think this belongs in S&T, by the way.

Edited December 17, 2014 by Chro

[Aanchir]

I think a larger, titan-sized build might suffice for Makuta (especially since he was transformed by the Mask of Ultimate Power), but in Ekimu's case, I think a build closer to the one in the Legend video would be much more appropriate. One of the great things about the BIONICLE sets and storyline has always been that a character doesn't have to be enormous to be special or important.

 

Note that in the Legend video, Ekimu has a gear on his back, so it's entirely possible that he will use a gearbox like the Toa so that he can swing his hammer.

[Dark_Stranger]

I think a larger, titan-sized build might suffice for Makuta (especially since he was transformed by the Mask of Ultimate Power), but in Ekimu's case, I think a build closer to the one in the Legend video would be much more appropriate. One of the great things about the BIONICLE sets and storyline has always been that a character doesn't have to be enormous to be special or important.

 

Note that in the Legend video, Ekimu has a gear on his back, so it's entirely possible that he will use a gearbox like the Toa so that he can swing his hammer.

Personally, I find it hard to say whether the increase in size was part of the change or just added to emphasize it. I'd imagine he'll have some kind of mount or vehicle if he's still small, though--after all, you can't have your main villain looking all dinky next to the heroes.

As someone fortunate enough to have interacted extensively with the new sets, do you think a gearbox on a Protector style torso would work, or would it have to be scaled up a bit? 

[Ranaki_Pakewa]

My guess it that Ekimu and normal Makuta will be $15 sized sets; somewhere bigger than the standard Protector, but still keeping a Protector-ish build. Evil Makuta though, will probably be closer to the $20 size, if that is the largest set size.

[-Windrider-]

Moving to Bionicle Discussion.

[Toa Smoke Monster]

I wouldn't be surprised if Ekimu and/or Makuta appeared as sets in the summer wave of Bionicle 2015. They are important characters to the story, and if they have big roles in the later part of the 2015 storyline, then I do think they could be released in set form. 

 

Or they could do what they did with Gen 1 Makuta and wait three years to release his set. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. 

[emily]

 

Personally, I find it hard to say whether the increase in size was part of the change or just added to emphasize it.

Same here. He grows, but the parts he is comprised of don't change at all except in color - that's a pretty important detail, assuming that the models in the video were created based on forthcoming sets (which they almost certainly are). The Lord of Skull Spiders is much larger in the cartoon than he is as a model.

[Lyichir]

The Mask of Creation is definitely appearing in a set. There's no ambiguity about that, because the solid gold version we saw at NYCC proves that a mold has been designed, and the cost of Lego molds ensures that Lego would never design one solely for a single-run contest prize.

 

It's not quite clear HOW it's appearing in sets, but Ekimu is the most likely candidate for its wearer based on what we've seen. In the Legend video, Ekimu and Makuta share an identifiable build that is distinct from any of the revealed sets—essentially, they have the proportions and overall build of the Protector of Fire, but instead of his shoulder construction, they have a gearbox like those of the Toa (presumably so the actual sets can recreate the hammer-swinging climax of the prologue).

 

$15 seems like too much for an individual set of Ekimu or Makuta, since while they're bigger and more complex than the $10 Protectors, they're measurably smaller than the $15 Toa. My best guess as to how they'll be released is a ~$25 co-pack of Ekimu and pre-betrayal Makuta. But alternatively Ekimu or Makuta could be packaged separately, but with some variety of vehicle or steed—and in that case, the price point for each could be pretty much anything north of $20.

[Noxryn]

If anything, they should be big bulky titans. Think Axonn.

Eh, they seem more like Protector-sized in the animation and I'd rather Lego make them more affordable than not if they can pull off the design in that scale. Makuta maybe, since in the animation he physically becomes larger and his color scheme changes, but I don't see it making much sense for Ekimu to match his size unless Ekimu undergoes a similar transformation (part of me hopes not, since it seems a little early to be altering and changing appearances of characters past the prologue, even if it'd be in summer).

[Toa Malachives]

I think they should be titans. It is better if a legand's size is as big as his aura.

[Lyichir]

I think they should be titans. It is better if a legand's size is as big as his aura.

I definitely disagree. In Ekimu's case in particular, a small form would suggest humility—the idea that this god-like entity would be no greater in stature than his subjects. In Makuta's case, it provides a starting point for the power-hungry villain—that way the inevitable subsequent transformations can allow him to adopt an ever more imposing figure, as befits a brute who seeks power at the expense of others.

 

Remember how cool it was that our first glimpse of Makuta from the original story had him taking the form of a Matoran? And remember how epic it was when, after that form's purpose had been spent, he shed that disguise in favor of a powerful vortex of energy? Starting a villain off as larger than life isn't necessarily the most dramatic way to introduce them.

 

Getting back to Ekimu, if he does get revived in the course of the story I expect he'd take a role mentoring the Toa, and as such if he needs a subsequent form at all I doubt it will be anything Titan-like. He's not a warrior; he's a mask maker. There's no point giving him a form that dwarfs the real heroes of the story, the Toa.

[bioniclepluslotr]

I think a larger, titan-sized build might suffice for Makuta (especially since he was transformed by the Mask of Ultimate Power), but in Ekimu's case, I think a build closer to the one in the Legend video would be much more appropriate. One of the great things about the BIONICLE sets and storyline has always been that a character doesn't have to be enormous to be special or important.

 

Note that in the Legend video, Ekimu has a gear on his back, so it's entirely possible that he will use a gearbox like the Toa so that he can swing his hammer.

I would be impressed if Lego makes the ultimate good guy as a small set. Then again, there's Glatorian Mata Nui.

[Daler99]

I'm hoping that, between Ekimu and Makuta, only Ekimu gets a set form this summer.  That way, assuming that 2016 is dedicated to a quest for the Mask of Control, good Makuta could debut in 2016 with the Mask of Control.  I'm not sure when I want evil Makuta as a set.  By my logic, I guess that would be in 2017.

 

Also, with regards to their size.  I think that they would be good as they are in the Legend animation.  Protectors with gears.  Makuta can still be a villain while being Protector sized.  Think MNOG.  Makuta was a Tohunga in that game.

Edited December 13, 2014 by Daler99

[Pomegranate]

I'm expecting an Ekimu set, 'cause I feel like Lego is doing the thing where only characters available as sets will be featured prominently in the story, as evidence by both the cloney nature of the Protectors (they could've gone the MNOG route with unique looking characters) and the fact that we've yet to see anyone besides Makuta and Ekimu in the animations that we haven't seen in set form. I'm not sure when I expect them to be released, but it could be next wave and I'm pretty excited for 'em if that turns out to be the case.

[Daler99]

I wish that LEGO had gone with the MNOG approach with regards to the villagers...

[Iblis]

I'm sure we saw a few duplicates...

Maybe all the duplicate Protectors we've seen are just that?

^{& in the next videos we might see some more individualized peoples...}

[Daler99]

That's true, for MNOG.  MNOG II fixed that, though.

 

LOL.  Yes, of course.  All of those villagers in this image are duplicates just like in MNOG!

 

 

[Iblis]

All of those villagers in this image

 

Are they all in a uniform? I mean maybe they're guards...

Really though, it's one image from a video I don't believe we've seen yet; it doesn't mean we won't see others.

 

As for sets though; I could see ^{(& somewhat hope for is)} an 'Ekimu & Makuta: Mask Makers' box where both are well covered figures in-between Protector-size & Gali/Lewa/Pohatu-size, but I've got no feel for the plot-speed but I definitely think we'll see some form of Ekimu &/or Makuta

[Daler99]

 

All of those villagers in this image

 

Are they all in a uniform? I mean maybe they're guards...

Really though, it's one image from a video I don't believe we've seen yet; it doesn't mean we won't see others.

 

As for sets though; I could see ^{(& somewhat hope for is)} an 'Ekimu & Makuta: Mask Makers' box where both are well covered figures in-between Protector-size & Gali/Lewa/Pohatu-size, but I've got no feel for the plot-speed but I definitely think we'll see some form of Ekimu &/or Makuta

 

That could be.

That is a good point, but I feel that LEGO isn't going to differentiate them.

 

I definetly want to see Ekimu and Makuta as sets at some point.   Since they are (probably) going to be around Protector-size, I hope this means that other sets around that size will be given personalities/uniqueness.

[Zeddy]

Like everyone else, I too believe the Mask of Creation is gonna show up in a set. And it's probably gonna be Ekimu. I feel like such an important mask, the central figure of the story, won't be released in an ordinary Toa or Protector sized set. They'd want its release to have an impact, and we also haven't gotten a titan set in this round, so my money's on Ekimu being released as a titan.

 

The image I have in my mind is a Makuta (Teridax) sized set, with a similar design, except you know, more white and gold.

[Nescent]

Weren't all of the most significant good guys smaller than their villain counterparts? Takanuva, Mata Nui and Toa Ignika were all Toa...those are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head, but Bionicle hasn't released any titan good guys besides Axonn.

 

I like smaller good guys and larger villains. It gives the impression that the villains rely on brute strength, whereas the protagonists are more tactical and cunning.

Edited December 13, 2014 by Dark Blue

[Evergrey: Toa of Music]

Weren't all of the most significant good guys smaller than their villain counterparts? Takanuva, Mata Nui and Toa Ignika were all Toa...those are the only two I can think of off the top of my head, but Bionicle hasn't released any titan good guys besides Axonn.

If you want to get technical about "good guys," Umbra was a good guy because he was doing his job in protecting the Ignika. I believe (feel free to correct me/enlighten me if I'm wrong btw) that Hydraxon follows that trend as well. Yes, they're adversaries the main good guys, but saying Axonn was the only good guy titan isn't completely true. Hydraxon and Umbra both did their duty, but it was against the toa...so they're kind in a grey area I think.

 

Anyway, I would like to see 1 set that includes both Ekimu and the Makuta (and maybe 2 random collectible masks to represent their status as mask makers) so that they can fight. Honestly the sets this wave have the little spiders in them to fight, right? So why not package the two brothers together since they're small, protector sized beings? That's just what I think.

 

The 2 random collectible masks you ask? So the molds for the protector masks, toa masks and the mask of creation exist...they should randomly have random masks of any colors released with the two brothers since they are "The Mask Maker and The Mask Hoarder"

[Iblis]

Weren't all of the most significant good guys smaller than their villain counterparts?

 

I think that is part of the reason for people thinking of an 'Ekimu & Makuta' box; both can be on the smaller size, whilst Makuta could easily have two versions within a (three) year span. I wouldn't be surprised if we got an 'Ekimu & something else' set either ^{(mount/vehicle have already been mentioned!)} 

 

I think Axonn was awesome, although there were non-villain Titans as Evergrey_Toa said. I hope that the Ekimu set will have at least 75~ pieces, I don't think a set smaller ^{(piece count wise)} than that would really look right whilst having a good selection of pieces; I don't want him to be very tall ^{(or look very bulky)}, but just more detailed than the Protectors ^{(not that they weren't detailed!)}.

 

^{Other masks in with the Mask Makers would be pretty cool...}

[Nescent]

 

Weren't all of the most significant good guys smaller than their villain counterparts? Takanuva, Mata Nui and Toa Ignika were all Toa...those are the only two I can think of off the top of my head, but Bionicle hasn't released any titan good guys besides Axonn.

If you want to get technical about "good guys," Umbra was a good guy because he was doing his job in protecting the Ignika. I believe (feel free to correct me/enlighten me if I'm wrong btw) that Hydraxon follows that trend as well. Yes, they're adversaries the main good guys, but saying Axonn was the only good guy titan isn't completely true. Hydraxon and Umbra both did their duty, but it was against the toa...so they're kind in a grey area I think.

 

Anyway, I would like to see 1 set that includes both Ekimu and the Makuta (and maybe 2 random collectible masks to represent their status as mask makers) so that they can fight. Honestly the sets this wave have the little spiders in them to fight, right? So why not package the two brothers together since they're small, protector sized beings? That's just what I think.

 

The 2 random collectible masks you ask? So the molds for the protector masks, toa masks and the mask of creation exist...they should randomly have random masks of any colors released with the two brothers since they are "The Mask Maker and The Mask Hoarder"

 

Really I had the highlighted heroes in mind, who were advertised as the wave/year's main good guy. I don't really think that Hydraxon or Umbra were iconic or important as Ekimu.

[fishers64]

Depends on if Ekimu/Makuta are scheduled to wake up. When they do, I think we'll get a set of them. I can imagine Makuta getting two forms - one pre-transformation and one post-transformation. We'll have to see.

Although they might just do the post-transform form because it would provide more variety in the build/set than two Protectors with gears. In any event, I do hope we get a set form of Ekimu's hammer that's not a clone of Onua's hammer.

That's true, for MNOG.  MNOG II fixed that, though.
 
LOL.  Yes, of course.  All of those villagers in this image are duplicates just like in MNOG!
 
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Isn't that taking the authenticity a bit too far?

[Xabla]

I think that Lego already HAS the sets of them made and this is where the animation came from. And I would hate to see them Protector size.

[Nidhiki of the Shadows]

I think The Mask of Creation will definitely come out this year in a set - but I'm not sure if Ekimu will be released. Him and Makuta seem to have pretty generic designs, so I doubt they will look like that if they are ever released.

 

Regardless, I hope they are larger "Titan"-level sets - always love building them. Something always special about buying a large box, dumping the pieces out and getting started on a more complex build.

 

-NotS

[Evergrey: Toa of Music]

Really I had the highlighted heroes in mind, who were advertised as the wave/year's main good guy. I don't really think that Hydraxon or Umbra were iconic or important as Ekimu.

I wasn't saying they were, I was just trying to provide a counter argument against Axonn being the only non-evil titan. But you are 100% right: Ekimu is super important and Hydraxon & Umbra aren't really that important.

[Banana Gunz]

I'd like to see an Ekimu+Good Makuta Mask Makers set with both of the figures using something similar to Protector builds except with gearboxes. A separate evil Makuta would be sold separately and would be much larger. Just my ideas though, Lego could choose to ultimately do anything.

[Nidhiki of the Shadows]

I'd like to see an Ekimu+Good Makuta Mask Makers set with both of the figures using something similar to Protector builds except with gearboxes. A separate evil Makuta would be sold separately and would be much larger. Just my ideas though, Lego could choose to ultimately do anything.

I could see that being a store exclusive or something for sure, since it's rare for Bionicle to ever do "two-packs" of humanoid characters as a single regular retail item.

 

Something like the Toa Hagah, where one of the sets is a special edition release sold everywhere and the other can only be obtained by purchasing a dual pack.

 

-NotS

Edited December 15, 2014 by Nidhiki of the Shadows

[Banana Gunz]

 

I'd like to see an Ekimu+Good Makuta Mask Makers set with both of the figures using something similar to Protector builds except with gearboxes. A separate evil Makuta would be sold separately and would be much larger. Just my ideas though, Lego could choose to ultimately do anything.

I could see that being a store exclusive or something for sure, since it's rare for Bionicle to ever do "two-packs" of humanoid characters as a single regular retail item.

 

Something like the Toa Hagah, where one of the sets is a special edition release sold everywhere and the other can only be obtained by purchasing a dual pack.

 

-NotS

 

 

Well, considering they're such large and important characters from what we've seen so far I would imagine they wouldn't be put as exclusives, but hey, you never know until you know.

[Nidhiki of the Shadows]

Well, considering they're such large and important characters from what we've seen so far I would imagine they wouldn't be put as exclusives, but hey, you never know until you know.

True, but I would expect them to get individual titan-level releases for that reason. However, if they did decide to do canister-sized Makuta and Ekimu bundled together, I could only see that being store-exclusive or as a limited edition release.

 

-NotS

[Banana Gunz]

 

Well, considering they're such large and important characters from what we've seen so far I would imagine they wouldn't be put as exclusives, but hey, you never know until you know.

True, but I would expect them to get individual titan-level releases for that reason. However, if they did decide to do canister-sized Makuta and Ekimu bundled together, I could only see that being store-exclusive or as a limited edition release.

 

-NotS

 

 

Ye, but it also depends on their sizes. I'm imagining them to be Protector sized (maybe slightly larger and/or more piece heavy) so they fit together in one set better without throwing the price way up. That way, in total the set would be titan priced and sized, but it would consist of two figures dividing it.