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Way back when I first joined BZPower, I had a popular topic called MNOG Findings pointing out possible theories based on little details seen in the Mata Nui Online Game. A few of them turned out to be right, most weren't (esp. because we later learned the MNOG designers rarely consulted the story team), but it was a fun process to go through at the least. So now I was watching the videos for Generation 2 that we have so far, and I noticed several little things. It reminded me of that, so I thought of making this topic.

I was going to type out the transcripts as part of this, but wouldn't have had time this year, and thankfully fishers64 has provided them for the Legend video and the first three animations. The lines in bold for the first three are quoted from that topic. I have also included the brief transcript of the Masks of Power trailer at the end of this post (lines in bold again). I'm commenting on the CG promo vid briefly and the individual Toa promos, but haven't bothered with transcripts for those. (Bold is used for section headers there instead.)

I'm presuming here that the reader is already familiar with a few of the already much-discussed findings like the Vahi 'easter eggs'. The focus here is on things not much discussed yet, although some common theories are mentioned and possible evidence pro/con discussed. There's also some theories of my own (but if somebody else happened to think of it already and maybe mention it somewhere I missed, no theft intended lol).



The Legend:
 
A long time ago in the on the mythical island of Okoto, all lived in harmony. It was a place of wonders and beautiful landscapes.


Mythical? This raises major questions, but all might miss the point as this word might just be there to help give a more fantasy feel to Generation 2 versus the more sci-fi feel of Generation 1, or to balance the sci-fi feel that will naturally be gotten from seeing (apparent) robots and passenger pods from space just in Gen 2.

The emphasis on harmony and a place of wonders also evokes the Gen 1 in-story myth that the Turaga created as a protective lie to keep the Matoran from trying to return to Metru Nui. But whether this is meant to imply anything for Gen 2, it's too early to tell. It could be that in this incarnation, they wanted to bring what was a lie in Gen 1 (or metaphor that was partly true) into full reality for Gen 2, basically.

From the island's elemental forces, two brothers, known as the Mask makers, created masks of Power.

The elemental forces, used in the masks, come from the island itself? This may give evidence that Gen 2 actually uses something that for Gen 1 Mata Nui Island was a fan theory that was never confirmed; that the elemental regions are different from each other not so much for natural wind direction or elevation based reasons but from actual elemental energies casting a sort of spell over the six regions.

And we see a re-use of the idea of two powerful brothers from Gen 1. This time it may be literal; they seem to simply be titans, and there's evidence elsewhere of biological descent or something like it with the Protectors. So these important titans, the maskmakers, might be literal brothers.

This wording is also interesting to the question of how masks other than Mask of Fire, Mask of Water, etc. are made. There's a law (mentioned a few lines down from here) that no two elemental powers could be contained in one mask, but this line makes it sound like all mask powers are made from the six elemental forces of the island. This could be reading too much into it. But if so, maybe you can MIX elements to make a single new power, OR choose to have MULTIPLE elemental powers in one mask.

If the latter, then it seems implied the Mask of Ultimate Power (read on if unfamiliar) is a Mask that controls all six elements at once, or a "Mask of Fire, Water, Ice, Jungle, Stone, and Earth".
 
Each brother had a special mask. Makuta owned the Mask of Control, and Ekimu the Mask of Creation.

"Special" mask. That could mean simply that some masks aren't taken from the island's elemental forces. Or it could mean it's special to mix powers (getting a single new power, similar to the Kanoka mixture system of Gen 1), and normal to just make one of the six elemental masks.

If the latter, and based on the interesting twist that unlike Gen 1, Tahu Toa of Fire has a Mask of Fire (not Mask of Shielding), it's possible the maskmakers' main job on Okoto was to make lesser elemental masks for the Protectors and maybe villagers. But... we just don't know enough to be sure of these details.

It's also possible something like Gen 1's Legendary system exists here, so these two could be special in that way. That would especially make sense for the Mask of Creation, but I tend to think Gen 2 dispenses with that complexity. This would be a question I'd be especially interested to see answered soon.
 
The brothers provided the islanders with many masks, but Ekimu's were the most treasured.

Note that the idea that I saw at least one person post, that these two maskmakers didn't make the islanders' masks, is clearly wrong. This doesn't have to mean the islanders' masks have powers. They might be like Matoran and need the masks to stay conscious... or something. We just don't know.

 

There could be evidence in the "most treasured" line for something about the mask shape we see apparently universally on the Protector and villager faces. The lower half of it resembles the lower half of the Mask of Creation, which Ekimu wore. Perhaps that means Ekimu made all of those masks, and the ones Makuta made are just stored somewhere and rarely worn?
 
His brother became envious and forged an evil plan.
 
It was a sacred law that a mask could never contain the power of more than one element. Otherwise it would become too strong, and dangerous.


This scene shows evidently mined materials being stored in the background, including purple crystals that are later seen floating in the air in an Onua scene. This seems to imply special substances are found across the island that contain elemental powers and these are used in maskmaking. (Including something we could theoretically call Earth Crystals, for example.)

This could be relevant because of the emphasis on "pure gold" of the Mask of Creation. Maybe this implies its power doesn't come from a mixture at all but from a rare material other than the more common six elemental materials. The substance called gold in this mythology could simply have the 'element' of creation. We don't know if all mask powers are considered elemental in Gen 2, but it's possible, and there could be any number of rarer elements. Or, maybe some powers come from materials but aren't considered elements.
 
But Makuta wanted to create the strongest mask of all time.
 
The Mask of Ultimate Power.
 
When Makuta put it on, it took control over him, and the island began to shake and crumble.


Some have theorized that the MoUP is the Vahi (Mask of Time), but this does not support that idea. It sounds more like the above interpretation of a Mask of Six Elements. The hammering scene also clearly shows Makuta being lit up by six colors in sequence, matching the six colors used in several other places in these vids for the Toa's six elements. The Mask of Time is probably a different mask more akin to the Mask of Creation (both of those were Legendary Masks in Gen 1, after all.)

 

The island shaking could be from Makuta's inability to control multiple elements at once, so at least the Stone and Earth elements probably went wild, breaking up the island's bedrock and soil layers.
 
Realizing what his brother had done, Ekimu managed to knock the mask from Makuta's face.
 
A shockwave rolled across the land, and sent both brothers into an endless sleep.


The source of this shockwave is unclear -- a power of Ekimu's staff, or a result of the impact with the MoUP? It could perhaps be Makuta losing control at the last second of the Fire part of the MoUP (maybe just the heat part?) because he was distracted by the sight of the hammer swinging at him, or the impact itself. Or it might be energy flowing between his mind and the mask, similar to a scene in Mask of Light (Gen 1) where electric energy seemed to arc between Makuta's mask and his face when Takanuva tried to pry the mask off. I'm thinking something other than the Fire explanation, as the brothers don't seem to have been even partially melted.

Either way, the animation depicts the energy explosion as powerful enough to be easily seen on the "view from space" of the island, so it's apparently a wonder they survived at all.
 
The masks were scattered all over the island, waiting for a time when someone would come looking for them.

Note the passive voice here -- were scattered. At first I assumed this meant the explosion itself knocked the other masks away, but it could also mean the Protectors hid the masks to keep them protected from enemies (like the Skull Spiders). If they were knocked away, somebody or something must explain the pedestals placed under them; probably either way it's the Protectors. It seems simpler to suggest that the Protectors hid them rather than having to find them. Or the pedestals just might be something that manifests magically, "automatically."
 
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01 The Prophecy of Heroes:
 
NARRATOR: On the mythical island of Okoto, ancient masks of power were hidden away, for only the strongest to find and claim.


There's that mythical line again, plus "hidden away" seems to support the above theory that the masks weren't knocked away by the explosion.
 
But an enemy was rising, growing stronger by the minute, searching for the masks.

These lines bring up an interesting question of whether anybody who physically reaches the hiding places of the masks can just swipe the masks off their pedestals, or if there's some kind of protective spell cast by the pedestals.

 

At least one of the Golden Mask animations in Episode 3 seems to have the Lord of the Skull Spiders already present at a mask and guarding it from the Toa, rather than it simply being a race to be the first to the mask. The "growing stronger" wording may suggest they didn't yet have enough of a magical power to get past this spell, and Toa do, but they soon would. Such a spell might be related to the power of the Protectors' masks; maybe the pedestals are tied into that power, or something.

But even if this is so, it seems that at story start the Skull Spiders hadn't actually yet found the masks, or not all/most of them.
 
Desperately, the Protectors gathered in the most sacred place, the Temple of Time. Reciting what was known as the Prophecy of Heroes, they sent their prayers to the sky.

Now we see time playing a role besides the Vahi easter eggs; it's confirmed in-story. And given central importance. What relationship this has to prayers is unclear. Perhaps it has something to do with destiny and timing; the pendulum in the temple was 'ticking' away time to when the Toa were destined to come?
 
The prophecy was whispered the Protectors a long time ago when they found the lifeless body of Ekimu, the mask maker, and laid him to rest.

This seems to imply Ekimu may have a spirit nature beyond his physical form. This could evidence that the spirit of Makuta may be actively behind the Skull Spiders, or at least have also "whispered" something to spiders at the time just before both beings fell into total comas.
 
PROTECTOR OF FIRE: Hear now, O my son, what the prophecy says:

More evidence of biological descent, although terms like brother were nonliteral in Gen 1, so who knows.
 
When times are dark and all hope seems lost, the Protectors must unite, one from each tribe, invoke the power of past and future, and look to the skies for an answer.

Does this imply there may be more than one Protector in each tribe? I would presume not, though, unless we learn otherwise. More interesting is again how time is related to asking for help. Here's it's called an actual power. A power of what? The Temple? A combination of six elements? (Possibly supporting the Vahi = MoUP theory.)
 
When the stars align, six comets will bring timeless heroes to claim the Masks of Power and find the Mask Maker.

Fascinating association of the coming of the Toa now not only with time, but timelessness, and even stars aligning. (This brings up a question about what is meant by stars, by the way; the graphics used along with this seem more like planets, complete with Saturnian rings for one of them, but in ancient times on Earth, the terms for stars were often used for planets too; they were known as wandering stars.) Very mysterious.
 
United, the six elements hold the power to defeat evil. United, but not one.

These two sentences seem to go back to supporting the theory that fusing the six elements into one power is evil and isn't related to time. I think we need insight into whether there was an earlier event that the Temple of Time is all about, perhaps a societal founding event? If so, then I would not see the time references as directly related to the MoUP events, and the Vahi is likely a separate mask.
 
NARRATOR: It was the power of this prophecy that made six elemental heroes to rain down upon Okoto. Who they really were remained a mystery. But it was their destiny to defeat evil and save the island.

Here we have a confirmation that destiny plays a role, at least in an out-story sense. But it seems confirmed somehow in-story with all this connection between time and conscious will; the power of the prophecy itself is what summons the heroes. That could be nonliteral, though; the prophecy motivated the Protectors to activate a power of summoning at the apppointed time. Unclear for now.
 
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02 The Arrival:
 
NARRATOR: A bright light fell from the sky above the island of Okoto, crashing into the ground like a burning rock.
 
The wise Protector led the local villagers to a crater of fire. They held their breath as a figure stepped out of the flames.


It seems unclear in this portrayal whether there actually is a space-pod, or perhaps magical elemental forces surround them, and/or whatever contains them may burn up on descent through the atmosphere. The Toa are sold in boxes, unlike the Gen 1 canisters. How they land safely, even though there's a crater, is also left unclear; in Gen 1 they landed in the ocean so it was easily understandable. Perhaps this time they are fully robotic and of a sort that can enter atmospheres unaided. Do they breathe, if so? Who knows.
 
TAHU: O where am I? Who am I?

This mirrors Gen 1 in that the Toa Mata had forgotten their past. See a comment a few lines down though.

But in Gen 1, the canisters landed in the ocean a thousand years before the Toa were summoned, and the forgetting was due to the canisters malfunctioning (they weren't supposed to need summoning); that time stuck in the canisters basically made them rot. This time we clearly see that they land and right away they're active. So this might not be memory loss; it could be that they're something like the heroes of Hero Factory; manufactured and sent, with no memories because they're brand new beings, though that "timeless" line may imply something more.

 

Although this impact made a crater, and Gen 1 also has precedent for hard impacts that aren't fatal resulting in memory loss (Takua at the end of the GBA game, just before MNOG starts).
 
PROTECTOR OF FIRE: You are Tahu, the Master of Fire. You have been sent to us.

A promo line in the Tahu commercial later seems to imply a contradiction of this line. Here, Master seems to be used as a synonym of Toa, and it's applied immediately. But in the promo, he says that when he collects his Golden Mask, he will become the Master of Fire. In that wording it seems more like a "full potential" thing. I'm not sure what to make of this, but the sets are labeled Masters without the Golden Masks, so I'm thinking this line is more canon.
 
TAHU: What are you talking about? Why would I be sent here?
 
PROTECTOR: An evil is rising. And you are here to defeat it.
 
NARRATOR: Tahu looked around the villagers. His head held many questions, but no memory of who he was or what he was capable of.


In Gen 1, they retained something like "muscle memory" of how to use their powers, both elemental and mask. However, I wouldn't make too much of this, as that memory was more subconscious than conscious. They didn't necessarily "have memory" of what they were capable of; the first comic portrays Kopaka gradually recalling how it worked over time for example.
 
TAHU: Me? What do I know about defeating evil?
 
PROTECTOR: It has been foretold that one day six heroes, the Toa, would arrive and go on a quest for golden masks to unlock each of their great powers.


I wouldn't make too much of the term "great" here, but the animation shown for Kopaka after he gets this looks a lot like the Gen 1 power of Shielding (Tahu's Kanohi Hau). Do they unlock extra powers with the Golden Masks? Or was that just meant to be a cage of ice he makes?
 
TAHU: How do you know-
 
[VILLAGERS behind THE PROTECTOR OF FIRE reel in fear.]
 
TAHU: Was it something I said?
 
PROTECTOR: No, it's those Skull Spiders behind you!
 
[sKULL SPIDERS attack TAHU. TAHU successfully fends them off.]
 
[upon seeing this, the VILLAGERS gasp and bow before TAHU.]
 
TAHU: Umm...mmm...ohh.
 
PROTECTOR: Do you still doubt your destiny, Tahu? Come with me, we have no time to waste!
 
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03 Quest for the Golden Masks:
 
NARRATOR: Legend told that one day, six heroes would make it through the dangerous parts of the island, and claim the masks to unlock their true powers.


Interesting wording. The powers they have before the Golden masks aren't their "true" powers? What could this mean? Probably again just a full potential type thingamabob. But I can't help but wonder if more Gen-1-esque mask powers might be involved. And note that we still don't know if the Toa have elemental powers on their own without the masks here. It could be something like 1/3 power with no mask, 2/3 with mask, 3/3 with Gold. Or just highly skilled uses with the Gold.
 
Lewa, Toa of Jungle, was cutting through thick woodlands.

We know well by now that he's called a Toa of Jungle, but it's interesting that I haven't seen a clear portrayal of him controlling plants yet. There's a lot of flying, though, which makes it seem more like his Gen 1 element of Air. However, in the handshake scene in the Legend vid, in addition to the "Earth Crystals", there's something that looks like spiky vines, and if that whole theory about elemental materials being used in mask powers is right that's at least a little in-story evidence of the Jungle element being literal.

And in the open of the Lewa scene here, the apparent distance between where Lewa is hanging from a vine and the leaves blocking the camera's view of him may be more than the reach of his sword, so this might be a case of his using elemental power. Or it might be comic-book physics standing in for a machete swipe.
 
The sun burned Pohatu, Toa of Stone, as he fought his way across desert dunes.
 
Kopaka, Toa of Ice, was striding through raging blizzards.
 
KOPAKA: Oof.
 
I didn't slip.
 
NARRATOR: The river was a fast way for Gali, Toa of Water, while Onua, Toa of Earth, was clawing his way through solid rock.


Interesting choice of words in that last bit. Toa of Earth clawing through solid rock? Methinks we can expect the same confusions among fans between Earth and Stone from Gen 2 we got in G1 (assuming the distinctions are even the same here... and it actually seems like they aren't; "Stone" seems to include sand this time -- in G1 sand was excluded from both of those elements and was between them).

May also be worth noting that the animated version of Onua's "claws" doesn't really look like claws (no fingers on them anyways). On the plus side, the G2 version is much clearer than the original that his normal hands are holding something, rather than not having normal hands.
 
PROTECTOR OF FIRE: Tahu, Toa of Fire, this is Okoto's greatest volcano. You are close now.

Note that the images so far seem to show three noticeable short volcanos, and a single central volcano. I presume this is the central one. Unless that actually isn't a volcano. (G1 did have Mount Ihu which was the highest peak and not a volcano.)
 
But reaching your goal does not mean the end of danger. Far from it.
 
Know this, Tahu - the shadows of the shrines hold stronger enemies than you could ever imagine. Be brave. Be strong. Believe in your destiny.  


So the pedestals are called shrines (Suva were called that in G1 too), and this wording seems to lend credence to the theory that the shrines actually protect the masks from the enemies somehow.

 

This wording also gives hope that special elite villains beyond the Lord of the Skull Spiders may in in store, but the animations seem to debunk that, as they're shown getting the masks without much special trouble. The lineup of speech to animation slides also shows normal Skull Spiders along with this enemies line, which doesn't make much sense but there it is. Possibly just the animators trying to make the same baddies the Toa encounter from the start seem dramatic due to likely not having any extra bad guys allowed for set reasons.




Now the CG video:

When the LoSS steals the Mask of Creation, a cloud of dark fog/smoke comes up behind him. Mere dramatic effect? Or something storyline-related? My first guess is to extend that theory of a spell of some sort on the shrines, and taking the mask unleashes this. But it could just be representative of Makuta being empowered by a servant of his (presumably?) holding such a powerful mask. Who knows?

Okay now the really fascinating part. Kopaka is clearly shown coming to a stop midair in a leap, seemingly telekinetically. Mere noncanon artistic license? Probably... but if not, that opens up tons of exciting potential -- perhaps Gen 2 Toa have self-telekinetic powers. But we can't be sure at all of this from a set-style video. There are a few scenes that seem to add support to the idea in the Toa promo vids, but unsure if they're meant to be taken literally.



Kopaka vid:

Most important observation: his Gold Mask shrine is by far the most awesome of the six depicted in these vids. :P

*ahem* Well, interestingly the same sort of energy crackling effect seen with the Mask of Creation is shown around the Golden mask while it's on its shrine. I'd previously assumed that was inherent to the MoC, but this may imply it's part of the hovering over the shrine thing (or maybe protective spell theory or something). It disappears when he collects it, but a bright light is shown when he puts it on his face. This vid zooms away at two crucial moments so the timing of that is a little hard to tell. Looks like the crackling stops when he retrieves the mask, and the bright glow happens when the mask is on his face. Then all such special effects end, and the mask is just worn.

Until a few seconds later at the end of a slide, when the tool seems to change. I'm unsure if that's just meant as the Toa taking out their weapons and switching them to an "attack really powerful bad guy" mode or if it's meant as the tool getting upgraded in connection with the Golden Mask. All the vids have a showdown start (and the vid cuts off) with the LoSS. (Or A LoSS? More than one? Or does he travel a lot?)

And there's the things mentioned earlier; "become the Master of Ice" (I guess that's repeated in all six promo vids), and the geometric shield bubble thingy. Which really looks like energy rather than ice. It is also shown definitely deflecting some Skull Spiders, so it's not just decoration; it's a shield of some kind.

Lewa:

Again, no real indication of Jungle control. Narration mentions roaming the sky... still seems more Air-focused. It seems implied he unlocked "green-glowy sword effect" of indeterminate usefulness. And this time the LoSS shows up BEFORE the mask is collected. This one could be taken as a race to the mask (the Kopaka one looks like the spiders were heading that way but were later than in the Lewa one), but it could also be guarding.

Another nice note is that the confusion over his name's pronunciation from G1 seems to have been erased. It's LEE-wuh, matching the LEE pronunciation of the prefix of Le-Matoran, not LAY-wuh or LOO-wuh.

Gali:

It seems like she unlocks a special Tool-based power that mimics that one Nokama waterskiing vid from 2004. The Spiders seem to be guarding the mask this time, but they ARE shown appearing on scene moments before, so maybe not.

Onua:

Now things get shaken up. Here we see both a grayish rock and the purple crystals hovering midair in this cavern. And the LoSS seems almost clearly to be guarding the mask this time (he's sitting on this hovering rock, seemingly waiting for Onua to collect his mask and then attack).

 

We DO see the Skull Spiders climbing the pillar toward the mask, though, so this could just be an illusion of timing. On the other hand, they attack Onua when he puts the mask on his face. That could go either way; are they climbing originally just to attack him? Or to steal the mask? Despite the LoSS looking like a guard here, I think we still have enough evidence from earlier that a race is involved to some extent. The LoSS might be just overseeing the smaller spiders climbing to the mask in this one. Maybe he simply doesn't trust his weight to the way to approach this one?

Pohatu:

Now things just get weird.

Cacti!

Aussie accent!

Boomerangs!

Sandnados!

Yeah.

I'm not sure if I like these changes or not... but kids will probably love them. :P There's very little resemblance to Gen 1 Po-Wahi here so far. Of course, the voice could easily be non-canon, as with Gali's; the accent is probably to help the universal voice actor distinguish between the characters, so I didn't take it too seriously. The rest is harder to ignore, though. It seems like this time they're going for a more real-world desert feel. There is precedent, though; the Bionicle Heroes Reidak level featured cacti.

But besides all that, here we have the clearest appearance of self-telekinesis. When he summons a sand tornado, he clearly rises up as if hovering. Is the sand pushing him up? Probably. Still, I'll be interested to see this pinned down.

And apparently the LoSS can spit something as an attack.

Tahu:

Wow he sounds really aggressive! Um... no real... story observations... Except the LoSS looks kinda guardlike near the end, but the first overview of this scene doesn't show it. Seemingly both the LoSS and the rock it's standing on show up much closer to the mask than in that earlier scene, but that could be a trick of direction and perspective.

Well, and it seems like he's surfing horizontally in the volcano's caldera, possibly evidencing more self-telekinesis, but again nothing clearly meant to be taken seriously. He does seem to be going down something downhill first, so probably that's just meant to be building up momentum.



Masks of Power trailer:

On a mystical island, evil is rising, craving the powerful Mask of Creation.


Note the change in wording from mythical to mystical. Meant as synonyms? And the name of the island isn't mentioned this time. Plus here we see confirmation that the Mask of Creation is central to this rising evil's goals. Whose motive is this? The Lord of the Skull Spiders? Or Makuta? Both? (Or mayyyyybeeee... THEY'RE ONE AND THE SAYYYYYYYYME!!!!11! *ahem*)

But six elemental heroes crash from the sky. Tahu. Gali. Pohatu. Kopaka. Onua. And Lewa. It is their destiny to find their masks of power, battle evil, and save the island.

This could just be promotional wording, but notice that this destiny doesn't mention awakening anybody. In G1, saving the island was a step along the way to awakening Mata Nui. In G2, perhaps awakening Ekimu is a step to saving the island?


Okay, there's my observations. Thunks? Crazy? Applesauce?

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Lots of interesting theories here. Especially the "elemental substances" being used to form the masks. I can get behind that.

 

Some thoughts on Ekimu/Makuta and their apparent slumber. They say "lifeless" body, and "laid to rest." This line is accompanied by a flashback of Ekimu's body being given a Protector mask and being put into a gold coffin in what appears to be a tomb. I wonder if, perhaps, they are actually dead, and can even be awakened.

 

However, it doesn't say anything about what happened to Makuta, which makes me wonder if perhaps he did not suffer the same fate as his brother. After his loss of the MoUP, the narration completely ignores any mention of him.

 

A comment on the notion of there being more than one Protector per tribe--Perhaps it's just a word for the species? Or maybe it's like the Glatorian, where they had a primary one, a secondary one, and then some in training to serve as backup. They might be like priests or something, with a whole order of them amongst the villagers.

 

Also, I would once again like to bring up my theory about the Temple, Mask, and apparent power of Time. We know the name of the Temple, we've heard that there is supposed to be a Mask of Time, and the recent magazine article suggests that it existed prior to the Toa's arrival, and that the Protectors may have used it to summon them. If all this information is accurate, then I propose that the Mask of Time was made by Ekimu/Makuta sometime in the past and hidden away in the Temple of Time (again, the coincidence with the names is too big to ignore). Also, there's nothing else we've seen about the island and the new storyline to suggest that the force of Time has greater significance anywhere but the Temple.

 

That's all I've got for now. I'll probably go over it all again later and see if I have anything else to add.

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Key-of-Nongu time! (I love it.)

Well, if the new info in the magazine is right, the Protectors have (and used) the Mask of Time and isn't the Mask of Ultimate Power.

And they also used the Protector Masks in the animations to summon the Masters, so maybe the six elements (together but not one) are some kind of key that let activate it... This is pure speculation but the Master are timeless heroes summoned with the Mask of Time, maybe the flow of time in Gen II isn't linear and the Mask of Time opened a hole between diferents planes in the spacetime continuum.

And the Mask of Ultimate Power, that have the six elements (used to activate the Mask of Time by the Protectors), also opened a hole between planes but in this case the elements are one and don't have external item that canalizes it. And summoned something bad, very very bad. Makuta wasn't look 100% bad guy until he wear the mask, and the Skull Spiders are seems to be something new in Okoto. Maybe this bad interdimentional something infected the native life and thats why his power is growning, the portal is closed and the corruption is working slow. We also knows that Lord of Skull Spiders can use masks of power, maybe he is looking for the Mask of Ultimate Power to open that portal again and attacks the Masters because they are in his way and they will become more powerful with the Golden Masks.

So, summarizing:

-Six elements, together but not one, plus the Mask of Time  => A spacetime warp thing for the good guys.

-Six elements in one, without a catalyst => Door to Cthulhu. 

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bones, you really need to stop stealing my stuff. :P (It seems that transcripts are in demand! :lol:)
 
I was also going to make the theory that "United, but not one." referred to the MoUP too, and you beat me to it. :P
 
I was going to go with the theory that the MoUP moved the masks around using plants, but yours might do better. :) I shall see.
 
Also, self-telekinesis = flight. :D BTW, there is precedent for this group of Toa having a flight power, and there was a virus that allowed people to fly in Gen 1, so characters having the ability to fly without noticable flight equipment is in fact possible. But I think artistic license is probably more likely.

 

And Pohatu = best Toa 2015. :P

 

And now I have committed the grievous error of putting too many jokes in one post. Still, that was an entertaining and insightful read. I look forward to more overthinking and overanalysis. :P 

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I still think there are some errors in the transcripts, but I'm going to be argued with on that point until someone from TLC releases subtitles.

 

Anyway, a number of these are good points, but we can't yet say one way or another. I will certainly be holding bones' predictions highly, but not as canon yet...

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I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line...

 

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I still think there are some errors in the transcripts, but I'm going to be argued with on that point until someone from TLC releases subtitles

Even that wouldn't necessarily be definitive. I normally watch TV with subtitles on, and they "get things wrong" all the time. (Either from using the original script and the acted version had changes they didn't tell the transcriber about, or from the captions transcriber hearing it wrong or having a typo.)

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Good analysis...a bit much on the levitating Kopaka, but nonetheless very cool stuff to think about. 

 

Just hoping they keep it feeling mystical, instead of explaining every little thing in the G2 world. Let's leave a few things to the imagination! I felt like it made me a participant in creating the world when all the questions weren't answered for me- I got to explain a few mysteries on my own, which was really rather fun. As fun as it was to know, it was way more fun not to know, and to just make it up myself. Let's keep the mystery alive this Generation!

If there's one thing they could improve on this time around, it would be leaving just enough things unanswered. Let me create just a bit of this grand universe...

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I was going to go with the theory that the MoUP moved the masks around using plants, but yours might do better. :) I shall see.

 

 

Personally, I don't think that the masks were scattered as an aftereffect of the Ekimu/Makuta conflict or by the MoUP, because of the resting place of Kopaka's gold mask in his character video.  I could buy that the masks were somehow scattered with their pedestals magically appearing, but Kopaka's gold mask is in some sort of 'Akaku'-shaped cave.  I can't believe that that would just appear spontaneously.  I'm thinking that some group hid the masks.  If not the Protectors, then maybe some other force loyal to Ekimu, which would parallel the Skull Spiders that many people predict are loyal to and possibly even influenced by Makuta?  Of course, the Akaku design could just be there to look cool, and I'm looking too deeply into things... but hey, what else is there to do until new story comes out?

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I was going to go with the theory that the MoUP moved the masks around using plants, but yours might do better. :) I shall see.

 

 

Personally, I don't think that the masks were scattered as an aftereffect of the Ekimu/Makuta conflict or by the MoUP, because of the resting place of Kopaka's gold mask in his character video.  I could buy that the masks were somehow scattered with their pedestals magically appearing, but Kopaka's gold mask is in some sort of 'Akaku'-shaped cave.  I can't believe that that would just appear spontaneously.  I'm thinking that some group hid the masks.  If not the Protectors, then maybe some other force loyal to Ekimu, which would parallel the Skull Spiders that many people predict are loyal to and possibly even influenced by Makuta?  Of course, the Akaku design could just be there to look cool, and I'm looking too deeply into things... but hey, what else is there to do until new story comes out?

 

Or it could be that the Protectors found the mask after the scattering, and built the shrine. :shrugs:

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I was going to go with the theory that the MoUP moved the masks around using plants, but yours might do better. :) I shall see.

 

 

Personally, I don't think that the masks were scattered as an aftereffect of the Ekimu/Makuta conflict or by the MoUP, because of the resting place of Kopaka's gold mask in his character video.  I could buy that the masks were somehow scattered with their pedestals magically appearing, but Kopaka's gold mask is in some sort of 'Akaku'-shaped cave.  I can't believe that that would just appear spontaneously.  I'm thinking that some group hid the masks.  If not the Protectors, then maybe some other force loyal to Ekimu, which would parallel the Skull Spiders that many people predict are loyal to and possibly even influenced by Makuta?  Of course, the Akaku design could just be there to look cool, and I'm looking too deeply into things... but hey, what else is there to do until new story comes out?

 

Or it could be that the Protectors found the mask after the scattering, and built the shrine. :shrugs:

 

That's an interesting possibility that I hadn't considered... But then, if the Protectors hadn't hidden the masks but then later found them, why would they leave them where they had found them?  Maybe they thought the gold masks would be safer from the Skull Spiders hidden in the wilderness instead of in the villages, or maybe part of the prophecy indicated that it would be important for the Toa to search for and find their masks, instead of just receiving them from the Protectors... It's an interesting scenario to think about.

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I was going to go with the theory that the MoUP moved the masks around using plants, but yours might do better. :) I shall see.

 

 

Personally, I don't think that the masks were scattered as an aftereffect of the Ekimu/Makuta conflict or by the MoUP, because of the resting place of Kopaka's gold mask in his character video.  I could buy that the masks were somehow scattered with their pedestals magically appearing, but Kopaka's gold mask is in some sort of 'Akaku'-shaped cave.  I can't believe that that would just appear spontaneously.  I'm thinking that some group hid the masks.  If not the Protectors, then maybe some other force loyal to Ekimu, which would parallel the Skull Spiders that many people predict are loyal to and possibly even influenced by Makuta?  Of course, the Akaku design could just be there to look cool, and I'm looking too deeply into things... but hey, what else is there to do until new story comes out?

 

Or it could be that the Protectors found the mask after the scattering, and built the shrine. :shrugs:

 

That's an interesting possibility that I hadn't considered... But then, if the Protectors hadn't hidden the masks but then later found them, why would they leave them where they had found them?  Maybe they thought the gold masks would be safer from the Skull Spiders hidden in the wilderness instead of in the villages, or maybe part of the prophecy indicated that it would be important for the Toa to search for and find their masks, instead of just receiving them from the Protectors... It's an interesting scenario to think about.

 

Also, it might have been set up the way the Kanohi in '01--as a test for the Toa. They get greater power while learning and improving themselves.

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