Should Lego bring back The Bohrok for g2 ?

[PaleoTiatan]

Should lego bring back the Bohrok into the Bionicle Universe for Generation 2 ? I would really like to see the Swarm again If not as enemies at least as local wild life . What's your opinion  ?

[Munty]

I think it's the general concensus that they shouldn't recycle ANYTHING from Gen 1 now that we have the Toa we always wanted. Everything else should be original or they'll be doing a real dis-service to older fans. We don't want to see the story we already know acted out with younger, hotter characters. We want a NEW story with younger, hotter characters!

[Lyichir]

If they can manage to recreate the "roll into a ball" function with more versatile parts than the Bohrok's wonky Technic elements, then I wouldn't mind seeing a new Bohrok.

 

But I absolutely don't want another full line of clone sets like the Bohrok and Bohrok Kal. And frankly I'd rather see them cover new ground.

[Toa Smoke Monster]

Unless there is a good reason in the story to bring them back and they get cool Gen 2 versions of their sets that aren't remakes of their Gen 1 counterparts, then I would be okay with them returning. Otherwise, I would rather them stay in the Gen 1 story and a new threat face the Toa instead.

[Xarok]

Only and I mean only if they can make each Bohrok unique which defeats the purpose of them if you ask me. I prefer the way the new Toa are, similar builds but each one has enough differences so you can look and say it's not a clone. I'd really rather not see Bohrok again, and especially not Bohrok Kal.

[Klanadack]

Since the skull spiders seem to be somewhat similar to the infected masks of G1, I wouldn't be surprised if lego made something similar to the bohrok in the future, but with enough changes to differentiate the two.

[Lyichir]

Since the skull spiders seem to be somewhat similar to the infected masks of G1, I wouldn't be surprised if lego made something similar to the bohrok in the future, but with enough changes to differentiate the two.

I'd argue it's probably less likely, since the Skull Spiders seem to have about as much in common with Krana and even the Bohrok themselves as with infected masks. Skull Spiders are sentient, living beings, like Krana. They operate as a swarm with a hive-like mentality, like Bohrok. While they don't roll up into a ball or anything like that, I feel like without some significant story changes the Bohrok would feel redundant.

 

New Bohrok could probably be made to work in the story—look at Doctor Who, and the number of times it's reinvented or reinterpreted classic foes like the Daleks or Cybermen. But ultimately, I think set design has progressed beyond the point where there's any advantage to releasing an entire wave of identical drones, and since marketability has always played a big part in what direction the story goes, I doubt we'll see new Bohrok any time soon.

Edited January 9, 2015 by Lyichir

[Prowl Nightwolf]

I'm down for bringing them back, the only one I ever managed to get was the black one and only one of him. So being re-released in some form would please me as a fan. Now I would have to ask a desired question... If we are using the Hero-factory style build for the Toa and Protectors... How would that translate into a creature that folds into a ball? Sure I suppose Lego could re-imagine the design and not use the same CBL(?) system they are into, but would it still feel like it fits into the Bionicle series? Be it for the old fans or the new Generation of fans with the new design?

 

As for making them "clones" are the Toa not Clones of each other? Just with minor astatic or armor flare? What about the Protectors? True there may be slight differences with the builds such as the Toa of Earth's weapon being in his chest and Fire's being over his shoulder, ect.. They are merely recolors with a slight change to make them seem different. This is how companies sell more products. Transformers are another example of this sell tactic. And they are in story form as well.

[Sir Kohran]

However fierce and iconic their appearance is, there was nothing really crucial or memorable about their story role in the last run, and so I don't see any strong reason for them to feature in this one.

[Pomegranate]

I'd really love to see them return, but they'd have to pull something interesting and new with them, because like others said, it's retreading the same ground. While everyone loves the Bohrok, bringing them into the new story too soon would be too safe a move and end up being really disappointing when we're expecting something new. 

[bonesiii]

It wouldn't make a lot of storyline sense, if (as a poll I did showed has the strongest support) they don't recycle the giant robot. That worked in large part because it was a surprise, but the secret's out now. I think people want Gen 2 to go another route.

 

So, if they can come up with some other reason, I guess. But it would have to be pretty well changed from the original reason, far as I can think offhand anyways.

 

I think it's the general concensus that they shouldn't recycle ANYTHING from Gen 1 now that we have the Toa we always wanted. Everything else should be original or they'll be doing a real dis-service to older fans.

What? Where have you seen such a consensus? I think we're all expecting them to recycle some other things, since they have done so for the Toa and Makuta. That's what reimaginings generall do. I don't see how that's a disservice.

 

Was this sarcasm? It probably was. If so, pardon for the density.

[Prowl Nightwolf]

That is true to an extent. However may I offer up another successful franchise that basically at its core rinses and repeats the same story? Just look at the pokemon games as a whole. How many times can you redo starting off by picking one of three (Grass, Fire, or Water) Starter pokemon only to fill some encyclopedia along your path to collect 8 badges and coming across some evil or miss-understood faction of trainers out for some goal. Then to travel ultimately to this epic tournament where you battle 4 elite trainers and a champion for their title.

 

So why not here as well? We've already started to a degree. 6 elemental heroes come from the stars to save 6 elemental tribes from some great evil that has doomed them. That is what you call a "cookie cutter" storyline. What were the Bohrok in Gen 1? To Cleans the island right? Well not really sure how that would fit into the new story but that does not mean it can't or wont. True it was only in year 2 that they came out and then were gone. The islanders moved to a different place and a new story or threat commenced. Rinse and repeat. Doesn't mean it still can't be fun for the new generation or even to us.

[Sir Kohran]

 

I think it's the general concensus that they shouldn't recycle ANYTHING from Gen 1 now that we have the Toa we always wanted. Everything else should be original or they'll be doing a real dis-service to older fans.

What? Where have you seen such a consensus? I think we're all expecting them to recycle some other things, since they have done so for the Toa and Makuta. That's what reimaginings generall do. I don't see how that's a disservice.

 

Was this sarcasm? It probably was. If so, pardon for the density.

 

I think sarcasm is generally a bit more obvious.

[northmarch]

Absolutely. The Bohrok were IMO one of the most iconic aspects of early gen1. Of course if the Bohrok, or rather something heavily inspired by the swarms made a appearance, they would certainly not be what we remember. Just as the new Toa are not their 01 counterpart. They would probably end up being called 'swarm of fire'!

 

I fully expect, if lego wanted to do this, each swarm would be structurally unique and maintain their iconic functions (roll and lunge). Right now I don't see how lego would accomplish that with the current lightly Technic'd CCBS. I have every faith that if lego chose to do this, the result would not dissapoint.

 

Remember, in 02 we had no idea what the Bohrok were for but the clues were their all along. Lego has plans beyond what we can see.

[Lyichir]

I'm down for bringing them back, the only one I ever managed to get was the black one and only one of him. So being re-released in some form would please me as a fan. Now I would have to ask a desired question... If we are using the Hero-factory style build for the Toa and Protectors... How would that translate into a creature that folds into a ball? Sure I suppose Lego could re-imagine the design and not use the same CBL(?) system they are into, but would it still feel like it fits into the Bionicle series? Be it for the old fans or the new Generation of fans with the new design?

 

As for making them "clones" are the Toa not Clones of each other? Just with minor astatic or armor flare? What about the Protectors? True there may be slight differences with the builds such as the Toa of Earth's weapon being in his chest and Fire's being over his shoulder, ect.. They are merely recolors with a slight change to make them seem different. This is how companies sell more products. Transformers are another example of this sell tactic. And they are in story form as well.

The Toa and Protectors are NOT clones. They're less like clones than any other series of Bionicle sets ever, with totally unique builds, proportions, weapons and armor—something you'd know if you actually took a good look at the sets. Just because they have arms shaped like arms and legs shaped like legs and use similar parts like gearboxes doesn't make them clones by any definition of the term, and to suggest otherwise requires you to completely redefine "clone sets" to favor your argument.

 

Meanwhile, the Bohrok almost NECESSARILY have to be clones because of their primary function—rolling into a perfect sphere. That doesn't allow any room for arms or legs of different lengths, torsos of different heights or widths, or weapons or armor of any different shape at all. And it's the absolute antithesis of the Bionicle 2015 set designs so far.

Edited January 10, 2015 by Lyichir

[Aanchir]

I wouldn't mind a single Bohrok-like enemy set in the future that could roll up into a ball. You could maybe even include some kind of randomized part (perhaps a blended faceplate like the classic sets, but in one of six colors) so you could buy multiples to get a variety of Bohrok without each type having to be a separate set.

 

However, something that I think presents an even bigger obstacle to Bohrok-like sets than them being clones is that their incredible functionality was dependent on a LOT of specialized new parts. Around 50% of the Bohrok's parts were brand-new to them. And many, like the two new types of gear the Bohrok used, were hardly ever used in later sets. Generally the LEGO Group strives not to do this any more, and to design most new parts for long-term applicability.

 

The number of specialized new parts for the Bohrok could have played a role in why we got a second set of them in the form of the Bohrok-Kal sets. The more sets use a particular mold, the easier it is for LEGO to actually get their money's worth out of that mold. LEGO molds are very expensive — think tens of thousands of dollars.

 

Now, from a story perspective? I'm not sure where I'd stand on seeing Bohrok again. Perhaps the LEGO Group could freshen them up and make them mysterious once again, but even then, they weren't a foe with a whole lot of individual personality. Of course, the LEGO Group has managed to surpass my expectations with the new sets and story so far, so perhaps they could find a way to make new Bohrok-like enemies feel a bit less repetitive in both sets AND story.

[Latrodectus]

As a huge fan of the original Bohrok, I think we should cover new ground. They were amazingly engineered sets and a real menace in the story, but I don't want this reboot to just retread the same ground the original Bionicle line tread. 

[believe victims]

I don't see a point to the Bohrok as they were in G1, considering their entire point was as foreshadowing for the giant robot. There's no point to "clean it all it must be cleaned" if there's no robot whose face must be cleaned.

 

From a set perspective, I see even less purpose; there is no way to get the elegance of the Bohrok's timeless design without the specialized molds that made their ability to roll into a sphere possible. CCBS certainly isn't made for it.

[Toa Chuck]

Seeing as we will probably be getting new villains in the summer to balance the toa, I would love to see a few inspired by classic villains. Imagine a skull minion based on a rahkshi, skakdi, or bohrok!

[Prowl Nightwolf]

The Toa and Protectors are NOT clones. They're less like clones than any other series of Bionicle sets ever, with totally unique builds, proportions, weapons and armor—something you'd know if you actually took a good look at the sets. Just because they have arms shaped like arms and legs shaped like legs and use similar parts like gearboxes doesn't make them clones by any definition of the term, and to suggest otherwise requires you to completely redefine "clone sets" to favor your argument.

 

Meanwhile, the Bohrok almost NECESSARILY have to be clones because of their primary function—rolling into a perfect sphere. That doesn't allow any room for arms or legs of different lengths, torsos of different heights or widths, or weapons or armor of any different shape at all. And it's the absolute antithesis of the Bionicle 2015 set designs so far.

 

Ok, maybe I deserved that one. Though a single different part or slight build tweak does not a non-clone make. And while the only building I have done with these new sets is Via the LBB app I got from the lego site and followed their directions. Yes each Protector has their own weapon and yes there may be a slight change based on armor but overall they are just recolors of the new native species. Kind of how the Original Matoran were. The only difference with them was their color and mask. Well guess what, that is not the case this go-round. All the Islanders wear the exact same mask, bar the color. The only ones who had different ones was the two mask makers. Well and the Toa themselves of course. Now this may change in time and new masks may get released, but until then what we basically got along with the Toa are clones of a mold to represent the Protectors/Villagers.

 

Now the Bahrok like other set groups had near if not identical builds. The only difference being what Krana they had and their shields for their hands. The same for the Bahrok-Va. There is nothing wrong with "clone" sets and they did embody this concept quite well. Still that should not diminish their effect on the story or their part in it. This could be true this go round as well. I think you may have thought I meant that the Toa and Protectors are clones. This is not what I said or meant. But the Toas have a specific build to them and so do the Protectors as sets. With minor differences to say this is so-and-so of this element and not that one.

 

I can agree with you there Aanchir. This is why while I would love to see some form of return for the Bohrok, The ball aspect and design could be hard with the new system they are using but I suspect not impossible. Specialized shape characters like that can be hard to redesign while still maintaining the astatic of the original.

[Latrodectus]

 

The Toa and Protectors are NOT clones. They're less like clones than any other series of Bionicle sets ever, with totally unique builds, proportions, weapons and armor—something you'd know if you actually took a good look at the sets. Just because they have arms shaped like arms and legs shaped like legs and use similar parts like gearboxes doesn't make them clones by any definition of the term, and to suggest otherwise requires you to completely redefine "clone sets" to favor your argument.

 

Meanwhile, the Bohrok almost NECESSARILY have to be clones because of their primary function—rolling into a perfect sphere. That doesn't allow any room for arms or legs of different lengths, torsos of different heights or widths, or weapons or armor of any different shape at all. And it's the absolute antithesis of the Bionicle 2015 set designs so far.

 

Ok, maybe I deserved that one. Though a single different part or slight build tweak does not a non-clone make. And while the only building I have done with these new sets is Via the LBB app I got from the lego site and followed their directions. Yes each Protector has their own weapon and yes there may be a slight change based on armor but overall they are just recolors of the new native species. Kind of how the Original Matoran were. The only difference with them was their color and mask. Well guess what, that is not the case this go-round. All the Islanders wear the exact same mask, bar the color. The only ones who had different ones was the two mask makers. Well and the Toa themselves of course. Now this may change in time and new masks may get released, but until then what we basically got along with the Toa are clones of a mold to represent the Protectors/Villagers.

 

No, the Toa and the Protectors are not clones unless you have an incredibly loose definition of clone that includes nearly every canister set wave.

 

Clones aren't defined by having the same mask, they're defined by having the same construction. Not just similar construction, the same. The Bohrok all have the same construction. The Piraka all have the same construction. The Rahkshi all have the same construction. The Toa Metru all have the same construction. The Protectors and 2015 Toa do not. They have similar constructions, but so do the Toa Mata and Nuva, and nobody calls those sets clones. 

[Iben]

Personally, I see no general consensus at all that there shouldn't be things from G1 re-used in G2. I've seen multiple members asking for a G2 Takanuva, so I'd be the last to say there's a general consensus on that.

I would honestly be thrilled to see another Bohrok-like villain with the ability to fold up and roll. I honestly don't see a single problem with "clone" sets, especially in sets like the Bohrok and the Vahki, I liked the uniformity among those. In large numbers, these clones are really nice, and I would love to see something like that returning in the future. I know it's not a common opinion, but I quite like the clone villain look.

I do have to agree with Aanchir that these would require some new parts made for this specific kind of build, but I'm not really worried about that this time. Looking at how they made the gearbox and how versatile it seems to be, I honestly don't think Lego wouldn't be able to come up with more parts that can be as versatile as these. I wouldn't be surprised to see Lego dropping the gears again at some point, but this time around the gearbox can be used for so much more.

-Iben

[lessovikk4]

Yeah, and make more sskk lol

[Nidhiki of the Shadows]

Well, from what I have seen from Hero Factory, LEGO doesn't follow a singular theme for its enemies anymore. Therefore, a Bohrok-like villain appearing in a wave of villain sets is entirely possible (not sure how they would achieve it, but I have faith in LEGO designers - they brought back gears after all). That would be cool if there was like a wave consisting of a Skakdi, Rahkshi, Bohrok, Visorak (maybe not that one) etc.

 

No, the Toa and the Protectors are not clones unless you have an incredibly loose definition of clone that includes nearly every canister set wave.

 

Clones aren't defined by having the same mask, they're defined by having the same construction. Not just similar construction, the same. The Bohrok all have the same construction. The Piraka all have the same construction. The Rahkshi all have the same construction. The Toa Metru all have the same construction. The Protectors and 2015 Toa do not. They have similar constructions, but so do the Toa Mata and Nuva, and nobody calls those sets clones. 

 

I can see where Prowl Nightwolf is coming from - the Protectors, while varied, do have a more similar design to each other than the Toa do. But to say they are just as clone-like as the Bohrok would be a huge overstatement. 

 

-NotS

Edited January 11, 2015 by Nidhiki of the Shadows

[Prowl Nightwolf]

No, the Toa and the Protectors are not clones unless you have an incredibly loose definition of clone that includes nearly every canister set wave.

 

Clones aren't defined by having the same mask, they're defined by having the same construction. Not just similar construction, the same. The Bohrok all have the same construction. The Piraka all have the same construction. The Rahkshi all have the same construction. The Toa Metru all have the same construction. The Protectors and 2015 Toa do not. They have similar constructions, but so do the Toa Mata and Nuva, and nobody calls those sets clones.

 

I never said there were just as clone like as the Bohrok as they are about as cloned as you can get with sets right down to the parts number without being a re-release and calling It a different character. The only think keeping them from being complete clones is that their hand-shields and colors are different. Had it been color alone then one would not call them clones but recolors. So Latrodectus, If I were to follow your narrower version of clones then even the Bohrok themselves are not actual clones of each other but rather recolors or re-sculpts. So where does that leave us?

 

I can see where Prowl Nightwolf is coming from - the Protectors, while varied, do have a more similar design to each other than the Toa do. But to say they are just as clone-like as the Bohrok would be a huge overstatement.

 

-NotS

 

Thank you for understanding my point. The Bahrok while designed like ants and thus to be mass produces in swarms are no more clones of each other than actual separate species of ants or other swarming insects. Are you really going to say the fire ant is just a clone of a sugar ant, or maybe a bullet ant; how about the Army Ant? Then you have bees. Are honey bees clones of carpenter bees? I think while the Bohrok are clone-ish there are other releases that are even more so. What was that quadruped villain with the disk launcher for their mouths? Aren't they literally just recolors of each other?

 

In real life clones or even twins if you prefer, there are differences ranging from hair to eyes, the fingerprints are never the same or so I'm told. Personalities just the same can be vastly different. While as far as I know we have never cloned humans thus the fingerprints lean more towards twins or triplets ect. Now being that as far as I know we have not cloned humans and so when one sees two identical looking individuals they think twins or alike. Yet when you see two separate people some may say "Man they are like your clone." 

 

So the prospect of clone is a lot more varied than just simply passing off the exact same mold down to the near smallest detail and calling it a separate character. Why yes this too falls under the moniker of "Clone" in the most finite of examples.

Edited January 12, 2015 by Prowl Nightwolf

[derhenson]

The Bohrok alway sat a little strange with me, mainly because of the idea that they were actually transformed Av-Matoran (you could have nightmares of friendly light-villagers spontaneously mutating into mindless, destructive robot beasts). I do love the theme of swarms, though, and as it seems to be quite a recurring one in Bionicle, I wouldn't be surprised to see it come back.

[Prowl Nightwolf]

you think that is bad, you forgot that the Bohrok are just empty shells, incapable of operating on their own. They are slaves to their Krana. Remove it and the Bohrok shuts down like a dead battery. What an afterlife for somebody to think about.

[Regitnui]

The bohrok are matoran skeletons. Its not like there's any spirit left. The matoran soul has moved on to metaphorical artakha while the body mutates into a bohrok

[derhenson]

The bohrok are matoran skeletons. Its not like there's any spirit left. The matoran soul has moved on to metaphorical artakha while the body mutates into a bohrok

Still a creepy thought. I mean, think of the physical deformation necessary for a matoran body to become that of a bohrok.

[bonesiii]

This topic has been reported as including a set side as much as a story side, and it's a good point, so moving to Bionicle Discussion...

[Hasreadit]

I don't think they should bring back Bohrok again. I didn't like it Star Trek 2 when they basically redid the same movie as the original Star Trek. I don't like swarm villains because they aren't as fun to play with

[ToaDraco]

Yes and no. As a fan, I would love gen2 Bohrok, however I would rather see new and creative enemies. Occasionally I would like to see a few characters return or have nods to gen 1 characters, but for the most part I want new and exciting Ideas.

[Nescent]

No. They would either resemble the G1 Bohrok too closely, or be too different. I can't picture a middle ground where they're unique, while still retaining their original functionality. Krana are also a big part of the Bohrok, and I definitely doubt we'll see them again.

[Prowl Nightwolf]

You do have an ample point there Dark Blue. Unless lego wishes to release another from of Krana (The skull spiders could work maybe?) it may be hard to hold true to what the G1 Bohrok were. Still the Toa are the same in certain regards so it would not be to unrealistic to have homage to the original Bohrok but somehow adapt it to the new system. Though one could say that my opinion is a bit bias on the notion that I didn't really follow the story after the second movie were the Mata Turaga were Toa themselves. So for me that's what Bionicle is. I don't have any knowledge of the Praka or the McToran being Toa themselves. Basically I think anything after maybe '03 is lost on me.

[Blueblur21]

 

 

The Toa and Protectors are NOT clones. They're less like clones than any other series of Bionicle sets ever, with totally unique builds, proportions, weapons and armor—something you'd know if you actually took a good look at the sets. Just because they have arms shaped like arms and legs shaped like legs and use similar parts like gearboxes doesn't make them clones by any definition of the term, and to suggest otherwise requires you to completely redefine "clone sets" to favor your argument.

 

Meanwhile, the Bohrok almost NECESSARILY have to be clones because of their primary function—rolling into a perfect sphere. That doesn't allow any room for arms or legs of different lengths, torsos of different heights or widths, or weapons or armor of any different shape at all. And it's the absolute antithesis of the Bionicle 2015 set designs so far.

 

Ok, maybe I deserved that one. Though a single different part or slight build tweak does not a non-clone make. And while the only building I have done with these new sets is Via the LBB app I got from the lego site and followed their directions. Yes each Protector has their own weapon and yes there may be a slight change based on armor but overall they are just recolors of the new native species. Kind of how the Original Matoran were. The only difference with them was their color and mask. Well guess what, that is not the case this go-round. All the Islanders wear the exact same mask, bar the color. The only ones who had different ones was the two mask makers. Well and the Toa themselves of course. Now this may change in time and new masks may get released, but until then what we basically got along with the Toa are clones of a mold to represent the Protectors/Villagers.

 

No, the Toa and the Protectors are not clones unless you have an incredibly loose definition of clone that includes nearly every canister set wave.

 

Clones aren't defined by having the same mask, they're defined by having the same construction. Not just similar construction, the same. The Bohrok all have the same construction. The Piraka all have the same construction. The Rahkshi all have the same construction. The Toa Metru all have the same construction. The Protectors and 2015 Toa do not. They have similar constructions, but so do the Toa Mata and Nuva, and nobody calls those sets clones. 

 

Even then, all the 'clone sets' aren't clones at all. The Glatorian were similar but not so much that they could be considered clones. Skrall and Vorox are two good examples. 

[MrSciFiGuy]

I certainly won't mind if they recycle ideas from G1, but so far I don't think I the bohrok will fit in their new world. I know the  initial year or two for Bionicle's return will be "swarmer" based enemies, but I'd like some dedicated villains too

[Mr. Cup of Fail]

If Lego makes a new build or some new bone for the Bohrok to transform into a ball, then ya, that would be something great. But I don't think of them coming in the 2nd year, maybe the 4th or 5th year and it would be great if they had something different then just looking like copy. 

[Owlexander]

That'd be interesting to see. Bohrok using CCBS... sounds pretty awesome, I always loved the Bohrok build and would love to see it done in CCBS.

[Lyichir]

 

 

 

The Toa and Protectors are NOT clones. They're less like clones than any other series of Bionicle sets ever, with totally unique builds, proportions, weapons and armor—something you'd know if you actually took a good look at the sets. Just because they have arms shaped like arms and legs shaped like legs and use similar parts like gearboxes doesn't make them clones by any definition of the term, and to suggest otherwise requires you to completely redefine "clone sets" to favor your argument.

 

Meanwhile, the Bohrok almost NECESSARILY have to be clones because of their primary function—rolling into a perfect sphere. That doesn't allow any room for arms or legs of different lengths, torsos of different heights or widths, or weapons or armor of any different shape at all. And it's the absolute antithesis of the Bionicle 2015 set designs so far.

 

Ok, maybe I deserved that one. Though a single different part or slight build tweak does not a non-clone make. And while the only building I have done with these new sets is Via the LBB app I got from the lego site and followed their directions. Yes each Protector has their own weapon and yes there may be a slight change based on armor but overall they are just recolors of the new native species. Kind of how the Original Matoran were. The only difference with them was their color and mask. Well guess what, that is not the case this go-round. All the Islanders wear the exact same mask, bar the color. The only ones who had different ones was the two mask makers. Well and the Toa themselves of course. Now this may change in time and new masks may get released, but until then what we basically got along with the Toa are clones of a mold to represent the Protectors/Villagers.

 

No, the Toa and the Protectors are not clones unless you have an incredibly loose definition of clone that includes nearly every canister set wave.

 

Clones aren't defined by having the same mask, they're defined by having the same construction. Not just similar construction, the same. The Bohrok all have the same construction. The Piraka all have the same construction. The Rahkshi all have the same construction. The Toa Metru all have the same construction. The Protectors and 2015 Toa do not. They have similar constructions, but so do the Toa Mata and Nuva, and nobody calls those sets clones.

 

Even then, all the 'clone sets' aren't clones at all. The Glatorian were similar but not so much that they could be considered clones. Skrall and Vorox are two good examples.

 

Pretty much all issues with "clone sets" in Bionicle had disappeared by 2007. Most complaints after that point were just people whining about the reuse of parts like the Inika and Piraka torsos (or, now, standard CCBS bones and shells), but a reused part or technique does not a clone set make.

[Munty]

Of course while people keep mentioning a nod towards the Bohrok or a reinvention of the 'balling up' feature, noone has suggested they take the innovation in a different way. What made the Bohrok great was their unique ability to change shape, but the shape doesn't have to be a sphere after all. We could still see a nod towards the Bohrok in another, more unique enemy for Gen 2 which uses a similar but still different method of transformation. Another topic is currently discussing how there is no sign of wildlife yet. Why not have a release of sets which can be either quadrupedal or bipedal? That would be different but allow TLG to try a new twist on an old idea. We'd undoubtedly get some new parts too without it being too similar to anything we've ever seen before in Bionicle.