Patient Counseling - OOC Topic

[Timageness]

While I must agree that making GM characters the "heroes" of story is never a good idea when writing up an RPG (that's what PCs are for), I do feel the need to point out that the two most detestable characters in the game (not counting the monster) were actually Halmos and Fade, with Nyhe probably coming in at a somewhat debatable Third Place, even though most of her actions were partially justifiable given the situation.

She got mad points for beating the Karz out of Halmos, though, which everyone wanted to do since Day One.

[IcarusBen]

While I must agree that making GM characters the "heroes" of story is never a good idea when writing up an RPG (that's what PCs are for), I do feel the need to point out that the two most detestable characters in the game (not counting the monster) were actually Halmos and Fade, with Nyhe probably coming in at a somewhat debatable Third Place, even though most of her actions were partially justifiable given the situation.

She got mad points for beating the Karz out of Halmos, though, which everyone wanted to do since Day One.

Now I'm trying to remember when Nyhe beat the Brakas dung out of Halmos... Can anyone link to the post?

[Ghidora131]

Ben, I made that before I even MET you.

[Timageness]

If I recall correctly, during the evening meal of Night 2, the monster teleported its way into the cafeteria after using one of the guards as a chew toy (interrupting the fight that had started between Sal and Obruent (sorry if I spelled it wrong, Sil) in the process), and then proceeded to leave the poor guy's remains in the middle of the hallway. Halmos soon showed up with the guards and tried to send everyone back to their rooms (which went about as well as you can imagine since nobody really ever took him seriously in the first place), and when Nyhe arrived and discovered that it had escaped yet again, she then proceeded to leap upon him and began trying to beat his face in in front of all of the patients, only to be eventually thwarted in her efforts because of the timely intervention of Kazak. Sal then flipped Fade the bird through the security cameras on her way back to her room, and he had the guards move her into Solitary while she was sleeping, leaving her to wake up in the middle of its ensuing destruction the following morning.

Which of course cemented both her somewhat friendlier attitude towards Nyhe and her complete and utter hatred of Fade for the rest of the game's storyline.

Edited May 25, 2015 by Timageness

[silo]

AND that description was Ben's take on how things should have ended. In the original plan, it went like this:

-SNIP-

So you basically had every scenario planned out with no alternatives or leeway for the players? Because that sounds like a plan for a short story, not an RPG.

[Ghidora131]

Spread out over a long time frame, full of different scenarios I didn't include here, etc. etc.

 

I didn't even cover the Glass Machine and Dimention +2.

[IcarusBen]

Spread out over a long time frame, full of different scenarios I didn't include here, etc. etc.

 

I didn't even cover the Glass Machine and Dimention +2.

Didn't even cover them with me either.

 

And we wonder why one of the chief complaints about this game was lack of GM communication...

[The UltimoScorp]

Yeah, seeing as to how the Game is over now, maybe we could wrap up and close this topic soon?

[IcarusBen]

Nah, I want to wait until I've finally salvaged something from the mess that is Ghidora's Master Plan. I'm learning so much more about Nyhe, and I'm the one who came up with her and never really planned for her to become the hero of the story yet according to Ghidora's plan (supposedly created both before we met and before I wrote Nyhe) she's destined to be the "main protaganist" of a story that HAS no main protaganist.

 

I'm venting, aren't I? Sorry, I vent.

[Voltex]

Nah, I want to wait until I've finally salvaged something from the mess that is Ghidora's Master Plan. I'm learning so much more about Nyhe, and I'm the one who came up with her and never really planned for her to become the hero of the story yet according to Ghidora's plan (supposedly created both before we met and before I wrote Nyhe) she's destined to be the "main protaganist" of a story that HAS no main protaganist.

 

I'm venting, aren't I? Sorry, I vent.

 

I feel like this is a conversation that would be better had over PM, rather than publicly in this topic.

[IcarusBen]

I disagree. I think this should be on public display, for all to see, so there's no confusion. It was a madhouse, both IC and OOC, and I want people to know that Ghidora and I have not been having as good a time as we thought we would.

[Snelly]

Guys, just let this game die now, it's over. Nothing to really discuss anymore.

[The UltimoScorp]

It's a personal matter. Take it to PM please.

 

no one wants or cares to see all the you two haven't been talking about here.

[GSR]

I disagree. I think this should be on public display, for all to see, so there's no confusion. It was a madhouse, both IC and OOC, and I want people to know that Ghidora and I have not been having as good a time as we thought we would.

 

That's been... rather thoroughly established at this point, I feel.  And this thread is veering dangerously close to bashing, as evidenced by the post directly above mine (which is not appropriate).  The details of how the game's plot could have gone are something you can discuss over PM; if there's not any other constructive feedback about the game's outcome to be had here, the topic should be locked.  With that in mind, does anyone have any further discussion points?

Edited May 25, 2015 by GSR

[The UltimoScorp]

Apologies. I'll keep it in check.

 

That said, I think we've discussed as much as we wanted to, and beyond.

[Timageness]

Agreed X1.

[silo]

That said, I think we've discussed as much as we wanted to, and beyond.

 

  ^ 

[IcarusBen]

Well, in that case,

 

 

Thanks so much for playing, and we'll see ya on the next one.

[Voltex]

Yes, I believe this could be closed. All of my points have already been spoken by others.

[Perp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1qXQRpF08E

[IcarusBen]

Well, it's not an opera at least.

[Perp]

would you like me to post one

[IcarusBen]

To Perp;

 

"You know what? You win. Just go... It's been fun. Don't come back."

~ GLaDOS, c. 2012.

Edited May 25, 2015 by IcarusBen

[Kovika: Visorak Lord]

Well, guess it's time to close up shop. I'll see y'all around. Stay safe.

*Walks out the door in trench coat and fedora*

[Nato G]

 I do feel the need to point out that the two most detestable characters in the game (not counting the monster) were actually Halmos and Fade, 

 

Ben and Ghidora told me to make a character who was Asylum staff, so I took inspiration from what they'd done, and made him a total jerk. I thought that was the whole point - the staff were meant to be hated.

 

Apparently I was wrong about that....

[IcarusBen]

 

 I do feel the need to point out that the two most detestable characters in the game (not counting the monster) were actually Halmos and Fade, 

 

Ben and Ghidora told me to make a character who was Asylum staff, so I took inspiration from what they'd done, and made him a total jerk. I thought that was the whole point - the staff were meant to be hated.

 

Apparently I was wrong about that....

 

It certainly made Nyhe look better.

 

That was my job you... you... LOOKER-BETTERER!

[Voltex]

Let's be honest

 

Eman was the real hero of the game

[Timageness]

Yeah...

Remember way back when Sal ditched her escorts and my original plan was to have her go Harley Quinn on everyone's behind and Arkham Asylum the entire place just so people would, I don't know, listen to reason...?

Just imagine for a second what the game would've been like if I had her actually go through with it and she succeeded. That would've been awesome for a whole five minutes until the Turaga Council decided to bomb us or something, and I'm now slightly disapointed with myself for not attempting to go through with it.

Oh well.

[Tea-rex]

Well, if we're talking about plots and stuff now, I suppose I'll go along with and say what I wanted to do with Iyanu.

Basically, he was supposed to be the guy with a mysterious past (which I barely got to expand on) who was going to have some convoluted plot point where he was going to rise from the grave in a grizzly fashion and murder Halmos and all those who oppose him.

Naturally that didn't happen.

[In Between the Shadows]

Oh, I was just gonna try to get the baby monster to be Celii's pet....yeah that's it

[Dane-gerous]

Sorry guys, but Ikinu was quite obviously the true protogonist of the story :^)

[Kovika: Visorak Lord]

*Walks back in the door* Dane, we all know I was the hero in the end.

[silo]

Obruent's attempts at cleansing the world of Halmos' revolting existence were truly admirable.

Edited May 26, 2015 by 000

[IcarusBen]

Please. If there was a true hero of the story (which there isn't) then it'd totally be Jorik.

 

He's just so... Joriky.

[Ghidora131]

Okay, enough time-wasting.

 

Close topic.

[silo]

Please. If there was a true hero of the story (which there isn't) then it'd totally be Jorik.

 

He's just so... Joriky.

Who's Jorik again?

[IcarusBen]

Le-Toa with a Kualsi, aka Kazak's arch-nemesis.

 

It's amazing how a throwaway character would later become such a favorite of mine, BTW. Next time, I'm writing Kazak's profile.

[GSR]

Yeah, things have pretty thoroughly run their course at this point.  Locking this up.