masterchirox580 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) So as we all know bionicle G1's story was never finished, this is due to the fact Greg had a child in 2011, and that lego doesn't want him to give attention to G1 as it would conflict with the reboot. But despite all of this do you think Greg may one day finish the old story? If so then how and when? Edited March 11, 2015 by masterchirox580 1 Quote It's time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chro Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Nah. Quote save not only their lives but their spirits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahiSpeak Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I believe you will get the same answer from everyone: no. As much as it hurts to say, if he has not picked up the pen by this point, he is not likely to do it at all. 1 Quote Bionicle Story Group (BSG) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterchirox580 Posted March 10, 2015 Author Share Posted March 10, 2015 I believe you will get the same answer from everyone: no. As much as it hurts to say, if he has not picked up the pen by this point, he is not likely to do it at all.What's interesting to note though is that Greg mentioned on his LMB topic that he wanted to finish the story in early 2014 but lego would not allow him to, this shows that he still has the will to finish the story, which again makes me wonder if someday he will (somehow) be able to finish it. 4 Quote It's time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 No. He has other work to do for Lego and with the release of Gen 2 he probably does not want to confuse any newcomers. Even if he did continue from where the story left off, there is no where that the stories can be posted in order to become "official". From my understanding, if he were to post a new story on, say, BS01, people would think it was a fan page, especially if it were done under a pseudonym. He also had no plans. That kind of makes a story harder to write, because he need to come up with some conclusion without dragging out the story. In short, it's wishful thinking, but will probably not happen. Sorry... 1 Quote http://i.imgur.com/kbP5Svg.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/O8CcqC5.pnghttp://i.imgur.com/kbP5Svg.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopekemaster Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Nope. As others are saying, he's got better (sort of) stuff to do. Quote My Writing Blog (more writing coming soon!) My Bionicle/LEGO Blog (defunct) Hyfudiar on Spotify (noise/drone/experimental music) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aanchir Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Of course not. As far as I can tell he wasn't even working towards any kind of definitive conclusion in the first place. He simply wanted to continue telling stories in the BIONICLE universe for as long as he still had new story ideas in his head. What's more, I think it's become quite clear to him by now that continuing the BIONICLE story simply out of charity while also managing his home life and keeping up with all the LEGO writing that he's actually being paid for is not realistic. You have to admire his willingness to do so when he thought that was possible, but in the end it turns out it wasn't. Greg's incentives for continuing the story have gotten smaller and smaller since the theme ended. Lots of people who were following the story at that point have moved on. The serials are no longer useful or necessary for "keeping BIONICLE alive" because actual sets are now back on store shelves and actual, purposeful new stories are being created to promote them. Appeasing disgruntled fans in the wake of BIONICLE's cancellation is now too little, too late — by now, most old-school BIONICLE fans who have neither moved on to other LEGO products and stories nor forgiven LEGO for the decision to bring BIONICLE to a close probably aren't of much business interest to LEGO anyway. And the serials were divisive even when they were still ongoing — with as few people as new serials would interest, creating stories that only a fraction of those people will respond positively to hardly seems worthwhile. Maybe one day if BIONICLE becomes a media and marketing behemoth on the level of Transformers or Batman, it will be able to maintain multiple continuities, kind of like how Transformers has comics telling stories about their G1 characters or Batman has its "Batman '66" comic series continuing the stories of the campy 1960s Batman TV series. And then somebody might be able to make a living continuing G1 from where the serials left off. But if that ever even comes to pass, who knows if Greg will still be able and willing to take the helm? His life and non-BIONICLE responsibilities didn't disappear when BIONICLE was cancelled. 12 Quote Latest MOC: PAIGE (Prototype Artificial Intelligence, Gynoid Expression) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyichir Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Nope. Neither he nor Lego has anything to gain by continuing the old story, and both of them have something definitive to lose—in Greg's case, his time (which is immensely valuable to a writer who has actual responsibilities that take priority over continuing a long-finished story); in Lego's case, the consistent marketing and promotion of the new Bionicle story, which unlike the old story actually has the potential for profit (or loss, if the message is muddled by dredging up the convoluted story that sank the theme in the first place). As a side note, I've never before seen a poll this unanimous on BZPower. 6 Quote Formerly Lyichir: Rachira of Influence Aanchir's and Meiko's brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Historian Iaredios Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) Yes, but not for many many years; as he put too much time, heart, and soul into the story to simply abandon it, while he is far too busy to work on it anytime soon. He can take his time or abandon it for all I care, the former because I prefer he do more important things at the moment and later on make quality stories; and for the latter because it has been a while since G1 ended, and Bionicle has returned and he might feel that there isn't as much much need for closure as there once was. I just personally doubt that it will forever be abandoned. Take Lorne Lanning for example. He crafted a beautiful and creative (not to mention suspiciously anti-capitalist) world and series of tales of Oddworld through video games. He and his low-wage friends and co-workers put their heart and soul into these games but was always pressured by game developers, so much to the point that after a point Lorne shut his company down and, though he wanted to continue telling his stories and make video games, he was forced to wait for a better time. Almost a decade passed and Lorne was approached by a fan of his games, who now owns a digital game publishing company, and offered to support making a game, which made him happy and Lorne excitedly accepted. What i am getting at is that even though Lorne's situation was different then Greg's, Lorne was forced to move on to other things and wait until both times had changed, and there was enough fan support. Both he and Greg and put their blood and sweat into these projects, and something like that just doesn't go away after a while, it hangs on to you and nags at you. Greg hasn't gotten the chance to return to Bionicle, but eventually he will. Or maybe he wont, and like J.R.R.Tolkien, his work will be left for the next generation to finish (The Silmarillion). Either way it will be finished to some degree. Edited March 11, 2015 by Iaredios 1 Quote A RUDE AWAKENING - A Spherus Magna redo | Tzais-Kuluu | Pushing Back The Tide | Last Words | Black Coronation | Blue Man Bound | Visions of Thasos ن We are all but grey specks in a dark complex before a single white light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kohran Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I believe you will get the same answer from everyone: no. As much as it hurts to say, if he has not picked up the pen by this point, he is not likely to do it at all.What's interesting to note though is that Greg mentioned on his LMB topic that he wanted to finish the story in early 2014 but lego would not allow him to, That was quite possibly to avoid the confusion of having old Bionicle active just before or during the start of a reboot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makuta Miras Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 I want him to, but he won't. That's the truth of the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSkeletonMan939 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 It is finished, for all intents and purposes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-14 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Realistically, no. He isn't being paid for it (although it would be a nice hobby IMO ), so why bother? Plus the content is intellectually Lego property, I believe, so there is a bunch of grey area in terms of legality Personally I'd love it see it finished (not finished totally, but any existing plots wrapped up, and some questions answered), but it would be impossible to explain everything Also, I can't believe I'm agreeing with everybody for once O_o Quote BZPRPG: Akamu, Toa of Ice Talk to me about Destiny! Ask me about stuttering and speech impediments!//Feel free to talk about Dungeons and Dragons with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
believe victims Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Nope. Even if he hadn't said multiple times "nope" to people asking him this very question, it's unrealistic at this point to expect what little was left of G1 to be resolved. It's been five years, the main story was wrapped up in 2010, there's a new Bionicle story, and Greg has a life and job outside of Bionicle. Nothing points towards it being probable at all that the G1 story will ever be touched again. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishers64 Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 Possible, but not likely. Quote Hero Factory RPG | Bionicle Mafia XXIX: Storyline & Theories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeCee Posted March 10, 2015 Share Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) No. And at this point I'm really not bothered. Time has passed and the momentum of my interest has faded. Edited March 10, 2015 by CeeCee Quote Signature Guidelines: Avatar and signature total file size may not exceed 250 KB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALVIS Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 At this point, we should all accept that we will finish the Mata Nui saga -- all of us, individually, with our own interpretations of the mythos. Some fans think the Great Beings arrive on Spherus Magna; others think they're long gone. Some fans think Teridax must have survived, and will be back to menace the Matoran; others focus on Velika, or the Barraki, or the Shadowed One. And all of those interpretations are valid. Greg Farshtey is no longer writing the stories. We are. And I think it's high time we recognize and celebrate that privilege. 6 Quote "You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant." -- Harlan Ellison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zidonaro Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 He will eventually finish it but it will be a fanfic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumiki Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 He will eventually finish it but it will be a fanfic.I actually asked him about this in the halcyon days of 2007. When one of the books got canceled, I suggested that he post it on BZPower, but he is expressly forbidden from doing anything of the sort due to the fact that LEGO owns BIONICLE and he cannot write anything about the line outside of his official duties. Taking everything into consideration, there's no way G1 gets finished. Honestly, it's for the best that it isn't; there's no effective way of tying up its loose ends. Plus, with G2, any further G1 installments run the risk of confusing new fans and would only serve as fuel for the connection theories. 4 Quote avatar by Lady Kopaka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Nui Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 No, he won't. Even if he had the spare time required, it would most likely and understandably be devoted to personal things in his life that are more important to him, not us. If somehow, Greg finishes the serials, I'd be surprised and pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archon~ Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 You should've probably included a separate question asking us if we want him to. But no, I don't think so, mainly due to financial calls made by Lego. 1 Quote Archon *** "For one to truly feel alive, the person must kill oneself a little bit each and every day." Check out my MOC, one of the new generation of Toa on Spherus Magna! ***Toa Kyraan*** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterchirox580 Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 You should've probably included a separate question asking us if we want him to.Done (and I've also added an extra option to the first question). Quote It's time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aanchir Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 (edited) Wish I could vote on that second question... one of the disadvantages of the ways polls work on BZPower, I guess. I'd probably choose "no". I really have no interest in seeing the loose ends of the G1 story dragged out any further, and I'd rather see Greg spend his time on new stories. Edited March 11, 2015 by Aanchir 2 Quote Latest MOC: PAIGE (Prototype Artificial Intelligence, Gynoid Expression) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Historian Iaredios Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 The previous post was my optimism. Here is the downside: history has already given us an example through Masters the Universe. From what I have read, the story was starting to get a bit deeper and going somewhere other then "ERMAGHERD, SKELETOR AND KING HISS! RUN!", but the story ended prematurely. The writer said he was going to work on it and release it independently, but its been about 30 years since then, and the story was rebooted around the time of the Mata Nui Island saga. The story will again be rebooted with the release of the upcoming He-Man movie. Three, yes three, continuities, and some people still want the original to be finished. Sorry dudes, not happening; closest thing you will get are some fan-fictions going off of what the writer wanted to do (sound familiar?). Quote A RUDE AWAKENING - A Spherus Magna redo | Tzais-Kuluu | Pushing Back The Tide | Last Words | Black Coronation | Blue Man Bound | Visions of Thasos ن We are all but grey specks in a dark complex before a single white light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rahkshi Lalonde Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Nah, and tbh, i don't really want him to. it was kinda messy, kinda all over, and kinda irrelevant in the end. and i think an open-ended cutoff of "all was well" works best in this situation. :0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa Smoke Monster Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Would I like Greg to finish G1 Bionicle? Yes. I would love that. But everyone else is right in that it isn't going to happen. We just have to be content with what Greg gave us with what he did with it before the reboot. Quote Everyone is one choice away from being the bad guy in another person's story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyichir Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Since I voted before the second option was added to the poll, I'd just like to say that I WOULDN'T like Greg to continue the old story even if he could. Not only is the old story more or less a closed book (with the primary conflict of the story completely resolved), but Greg's work was always best when he had sets and an overall story structure to base it on. In fact, the loose ends that the story DID leave can be blamed almost entirely on the aimless, meandering nature of the serials, which is a perfect example of how Greg's work suffered without the rest of the story team to support him. 5 Quote Formerly Lyichir: Rachira of Influence Aanchir's and Meiko's brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhiki of the Shadows Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Probably not. But if he has the opportunity to finish it someday, I would definitely like to see it continued. -NotS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_of_the_rabbits Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I don't think the problem is that Greg wouldn't be able to find the time or that he doesn't want to, it's that he's not allowed to. Lego has no reason to want him to, and would prefer he works on other things. Maybe one day Greg will finish it, if he is ever allowed to, but I very highly doubt that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogbert Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 As unlikely as it is, I hope Greg finishes the G1 story, doesn't really matter when or where, I just hope it's a better conclusion than the dissapointent that was 2010. Quote My epic "Volver a comenzar": http://www.bzpower.com/board/topic/21137-volver-a-comenzar/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Kohran Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 As unlikely as it is, I hope Greg finishes the G1 story, doesn't really matter when or where, I just hope it's a better conclusion than the dissapointent that was 2010. I think that'll always be the proper conclusion to the first run, disappointment or not, simply because it ended the threat of the story's top villain. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyichir Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 As unlikely as it is, I hope Greg finishes the G1 story, doesn't really matter when or where, I just hope it's a better conclusion than the dissapointent that was 2010. I think that'll always be the proper conclusion to the first run, disappointment or not, simply because it ended the threat of the story's top villain. This, this, this. There will never and CAN never be a better conclusion for the Bionicle story than Journey's End, because Journey's End permanently resolved the story's main conflict for better or for worse. Outside of completely retconning the conclusion Journey's End gave us, it's impossible to get a second chance at that. The remaining plot threads (90% of them due to the serials) are practically irrelevant to the Bionicle story as a whole in comparison, and either should have been resolved BEFORE Journey's End concluded, or should not have been introduced in the first place. 6 Quote Formerly Lyichir: Rachira of Influence Aanchir's and Meiko's brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Destroyer Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I don't think so, but I'm not too disappointed by it. Back in 2010, it was heartbreaking, but I kind of got over it in the five years since then... Quote Thank you to the Dark Beings Banner and Avatar Shop for the banner! Brickshelf Gallery BZPRPG Profiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSkeletonMan939 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Depends on what you mean by "finished". I don't think he ever had some sort of definitive ending in mind. I think he mentioned once that he had plans for the serials to culminate into some sort of Great Being war (awesome!!) but ultimately I think he wanted to send Bionicle with a "never the end" vibe after that. Which I feel is the best way to end a story. I'm sure Greg wouldn't mind finishing up the serials, i.e., writing out full dialogue and everything, but he doesn't have the time to and he wouldn't be payed to. Maybe he even wouldn't be allowed to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toa of Gallifrey Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I don't think he will, sadly. I would absolutely love to be proven wrong, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petewa Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Even just a Ninjago ending would be good enough for me, the sorta, "The fight's over for now, and if ever again there's need for a hero, we'll be ready," 1 Quote Mataru Nui, an Interactive Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSciFiGuy Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Will he? No. Do we all want him to? Yes. I do think that there is a small change that one day, faaaar into the future, that he finally gives us a bullet pointed list of the final arc, answering bits and pieces like: what happens to the GBs, Takanuva's destiny, which of the Toa Mata die (possible), What is the GSB? etc... 1 Quote Bionicle: ANP aims to create narrated versions of all the Bionicle books, with voice actors for each character, and music taken from various media to enhance the story. Check here if you're interested in voicing a character, and here for the chapters that've already been released!Formerly: Tahu Nuva 3.0Looking for a Bionicle Beanie. Black one with the symbol on it. Contact me if you are willing to sell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iblis Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Do we all want him to? Yes. That is incorrect. 3 Quote ~ Sophistry: A way to be antidisuncorrect. ~ In a decade you might convince maybe a small tribe of people. In a decade you might also conquer one million km2 of land, & in over a thousand years you might have over a billion followers. I like building things. Please don't break the big ones. & evidential philosophies that dare to extrapolate beyond an individual's direct experience aren't easily built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballom Nom Nom Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 No, for which I am increasingly thankful. ~B~ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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