Mjolnitor Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 For most known rahi, we do not even know their relative size in comparison to average matoran and such.Was this ever specified somewhere? Quote TOO LATE.IT WAS ALWAYS TOO LATE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The 1st Shadow Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 It wasn't even mentioned on BS01, you see. Hm. I don't think it was ever specified. Greg would sometimes give a Rahi's height or length in books (a sixty-foot spike-covered sea serpent, for example), but it was rarely brought up for non-sapient characters. Best to just use the sets as a reference, I guess. Quote ~Your friendly, neighborhood Shadow ~Credit for Avatar and Banner goes to NickonAquaMagna~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnitor Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 Best to just use the sets as a reference, I guess. What to do with canonized MOCs? Quote TOO LATE.IT WAS ALWAYS TOO LATE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 1st Shadow Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Best to just use the sets as a reference, I guess. What to do with canonized MOCs? Good call. Things like the Archives Mole are probably medium-sized (Matoran or smaller, I'd imagine). Phase Dragons are big enough to feel confident around airships, so probably pretty large. We know the size of the Tahtorak. I'd go through the list myself, but I'm kinda tired tonight. I can give my estimates tomorrow, if I think about it. Basically, just look at the creature, read through it's traits and abilities, and gauge its size based on function and form. Spiny stone apes are large, but not too much larger than a Rock Raptor (They share caves), which are a bit larger than a Toa. Just use your better judgement. Quote ~Your friendly, neighborhood Shadow ~Credit for Avatar and Banner goes to NickonAquaMagna~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnitor Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 (edited) Also, same question about most Dark Hunters.Especially Tracker and his bull - is the latter really smaller than the former? Edited April 4, 2015 by Mjolnitor Quote TOO LATE.IT WAS ALWAYS TOO LATE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 1st Shadow Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Also, same question about most Dark Hunters.Especially Tracker and his bull - is the latter really smaller than the former?Another good call to make. We're having a discussion about the various sapient species over in another topic--perhaps bring up size over there? It might add a new perspective to the discussion. We'll stick to rahi in this one for now. As for Tracker... The look of the bull always reminded me more of some sort of hound. As such, I think of it as sort of a bulldog. (Get it? Looks like a dog, described as a bull.) In any case, yes, it's smaller. The question to ask, though, is how tall is Tracker? If we knew that, we'd know how to gauge the size of his pet. As I said, good call on asking about the heights of the Hunters. 1 Quote ~Your friendly, neighborhood Shadow ~Credit for Avatar and Banner goes to NickonAquaMagna~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nato G Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I had this problem a while back trying to figure out the size of Lohrak. From their description, I thought they were the size of normal snakes, just with wings. But after discussing it with a few people, I discovered they're actually big enough to strangle a Turaga, putting them at several times larger than my initial estimate. Sadly, since Gen1 is long over, I doubt we're going to get exact size estimates on any of these things.... Quote Embers - A Bionicle Saga - Chapters/Review Class Is Out - A Farewell To Corpus Rahkshi - Chapters/Review BZPRPG Characters - Minnorak, Kain, T'harrak, Savis, Vazaria, Lash BZPRPG Mercenary Group - The Outsiders - Description - History - Base Ghosts Of Bara Magna - Ash Tribe - Precipere - Kehla, Somok, Skrall, Gayle, Avinus, Zha'ar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 1st Shadow Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I had this problem a while back trying to figure out the size of Lohrak. From their description, I thought they were the size of normal snakes, just with wings. But after discussing it with a few people, I discovered they're actually big enough to strangle a Turaga, putting them at several times larger than my initial estimate. Sadly, since Gen1 is long over, I doubt we're going to get exact size estimates on any of these things....We kinda do know the Lohrak, though. There was that mutant one we saw, and the Toa Metru noted how it had changed. Adventures #7, I think. Check there, if it says something like "20 foot wingspan, twice it's original size," then we'll have some way to estimate the average size of a lohrak. If it doesn't, then I'm sure we have something for it. On the chance that we don't, then oh well. Quote ~Your friendly, neighborhood Shadow ~Credit for Avatar and Banner goes to NickonAquaMagna~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowl Nightwolf Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I had this problem a while back trying to figure out the size of Lohrak. From their description, I thought they were the size of normal snakes, just with wings. But after discussing it with a few people, I discovered they're actually big enough to strangle a Turaga, putting them at several times larger than my initial estimate. Sadly, since Gen1 is long over, I doubt we're going to get exact size estimates on any of these things....What do you define as "normal snake" size? Looking to real world we get everything from a couple inches of the Barbados threadsnake 1 to over 40+ in the form of the Titanoboa 2. So if the MU has any reflection from our universe why couldn't a Lohrak strangle a Turaga? I mean we have snakes that are well large enough to make a meal out of us, so strangle/crushing is not only viable, it actually happens. References:1 : Barbados threadsnake on Wikipedia2 : Titanoboa on Wikipedia. 2 Quote "A stranger will always be a stranger unless you give them a chance." || <- My Pokémon | BZPRPG Characters: Po-Matoran Doseki & Nui-Jaga Scorpio; Ga-Matoran Orca Matoran und Panzer: Doseki & Glitch | Marvel RP PC | Mata Nui Monopoly: Come... Own a piece of the legend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regitnui Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 And considering you only need to get around the neck to strangle someone, a Lohrak's body could just be a foot or so long, though I'd err a little longer. Constricting (crushing the prey's body) is different to strangulation (cutting off air and blood flow). Quote Elemental Rahi in Gen2, anyone? A write-up for an initial video for a G2 plot I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prowl Nightwolf Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Eh, yes and no. Pythons suffocate by strangulation via the ribcage not really the neck. Though having a coil around the neck of the prey doesn't hurt. Every time the prey exhales the snake tightens further around the body preventing them from inhaling and taking in more air. Therefore they strangling them based on your definition of "Cutting off airflow". Quote "A stranger will always be a stranger unless you give them a chance." || <- My Pokémon | BZPRPG Characters: Po-Matoran Doseki & Nui-Jaga Scorpio; Ga-Matoran Orca Matoran und Panzer: Doseki & Glitch | Marvel RP PC | Mata Nui Monopoly: Come... Own a piece of the legend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The 1st Shadow Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 And considering you only need to get around the neck to strangle someone, a Lohrak's body could just be a foot or so long, though I'd err a little longer. Constricting (crushing the prey's body) is different to strangulation (cutting off air and blood flow).A little check of BS01 gives us this: Under normal circumstances, Lohrak are relatively small, but the mutant Lohrak was around 2.2 Bio (ten feet or three meters) long with a 4.4 Bio (twenty foot or 6.1 meter) wingspan This seems to imply that you're quite correct. Ten feet isn't all that much, so I'd imagine that a normal Lohrak isn't that much smaller. Maybe 6 feet in length with a 12-foot wingspan? Sound reasonable? Quote ~Your friendly, neighborhood Shadow ~Credit for Avatar and Banner goes to NickonAquaMagna~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Regitnui Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I had this problem a while back trying to figure out the size of Lohrak. From their description, I thought they were the size of normal snakes, just with wings. But after discussing it with a few people, I discovered they're actually big enough to strangle a Turaga, putting them at several times larger than my initial estimate. Sadly, since Gen1 is long over, I doubt we're going to get exact size estimates on any of these things....We kinda do know the Lohrak, though. There was that mutant one we saw, and the Toa Metru noted how it had changed. Adventures #7, I think. Check there, if it says something like "20 foot wingspan, twice it's original size," then we'll have some way to estimate the average size of a lohrak. If it doesn't, then I'm sure we have something for it. On the chance that we don't, then oh well. 5 foot body with a 10 foot wingspan. That'd make a lohrak a little shorter than a Toa if stretched out. Perhaps longer than a Turaga is tall. I imagine they're a lot like biomechanical coatls (somebody Google the D&D monster, and post for reference.), just with a size difference. Kikanolo are large enough for a Toa to ride, both set and movie scale. There's another rahi we can estimate. Quote Elemental Rahi in Gen2, anyone? A write-up for an initial video for a G2 plot I really wish everyone would stop trying to play join the dots with Gen 1 and Gen 2 though,it seems there's a couple new threads everyday and often they're duplicates of already existing conversations! Or simply parallel them with a slightly new 'twist'! Gen 2 is NEW, it is NOT Gen 1 and it is NOT a continuation. Outside of the characters we already have I personally don't want to see ANY old characters return. I think it will cheapen the whole experience to those of us familiar with the original line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nidhiki of the Shadows Posted April 6, 2015 Share Posted April 6, 2015 I don't think the specifics matter as much as the description does. Some Rahi are never featured, so getting an accurate size depiction would be impossible. Some can be garnered from other sources (like the Kofo Jaga in Tale of the Toa - The way they are described make them seem smaller than what their set counterpart would be like in comparison to Tahu Mata). -NotS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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