Question About Gali's Harpoon

[N.S.M.8]

There seems to be a conflict between the animations and the character bios regarding Gali's harpoon.  

First, let's refresh our memories about Gali's equipment.  Gali's full bio can be found here.

Elemental Trident (it's really a double-bitted battle axe with a trident-like thing on the bottom):

 

Gali's mighty trident holds the power to command the element of water creating tidal waves and heavy rain.

In Gali's "adrenalin mode," the trident disassembles into the Harpoon and the Shark Fins.

Harpoon (the one that I have a question about):

 

Gali's preferred weapon for fighting on the ground.

Shark Fins:

 

The fins grant Gali unparalleled speed under water.

... Does anyone else see the problems?  

1. Specifying that the harpoon is a land weapon implies that the Elemental Trident is used underwater.  Doesn't that make the Shark Fins useless? 
2. The "Elemental Trident" is really a battle axe.  Battle axes don't work underwater.  Also, it's listed abilities (creating tidal waves and heavy rain) don't make much sense underwater either.
3. If Gali uses the harpoon on land, where does she put the Shark Fins? (This is dealt with in her "Power Up" mode.)
4. Harpoons are designed to strike and capture underwater targets.

The animations clearly seen to agree with my analysis.  Gali is first shown underwater, using her Harpoon and Shark Fins separately; she is later shown on land, using them as the "Elemental Trident."  


The only possible explanation for this that I can see (and it's really a stretch), is that the description for the Harpoon is referring to the "Power Up" mode.

Here, the Shark Fins are combined with the Protector of Water's "Elemental Torpedo Baster" (I didn't make these names, folks), and the remaining harpoon is stored on her back.  One could reasonably assume that the upgraded Elemental Blaster is her underwater weapon, and is switched with the harpoon when she fights on land.  

One could just as easily assume, however, that the website is wrong (and we certainly have precedent for that).

I don't think we will have an answer until we actually see the combinations in story.  What do you think?

Edited May 1, 2015 by N.S.M.8

[Nidhiki of the Shadows]

I can see your point for sure, but like you said the answer won't really be clear until the combinations appear in the story. Considering that the Protector's roles seem to be over and we never saw a single combo model, it feels like the combo models were never intended to be canon. I wonder if the graphic novels will include them?

 

-NotS

[bonesiii]

I wouldn't make too much of those bios, from what I've seen. They don't strike me as intended to be taken that seriously.

 

The land thing could still work, though, if it means the shark fin setup would enable her to swim effectively if water was suddenly in the way (and since she's a Toa of Water, being ready for water at any moment would make sense, no?).

 

She might not have had time in that animation to switch to another form. Also, it seems like all or most of the animations (I forget if literally all) treated one form as a power-up.

[fishers64]

The animations all show Gali using her trident on land, so I would just go with that.

[Dorek]

I wouldn't make too much of those bios, from what I've seen. They don't strike me as intended to be taken that seriously.

By that logic, most of G2 isn't meant to be taken "seriously".

 

Regardless, I think in this instance it's just a poor descriptor. The lines between their adrenaline mode and regular mode are kinda blurry.

Edited May 2, 2015 by Dorek

[Regitnui]

I'll put forward that the bio's problem is the same as Onya's; poor editing.

[Prowl Nightwolf]

I think you meant Onua. Far as I know there is nobody named Onya, though I could be wrong.

Edited May 3, 2015 by Prowl Nightwolf

[Constructelf]

I think you meant Onua. Far as I know there is nobody named Onya, though I could be wrong.

When the Bionicle G2 site first came up, Onua's name was spelled as "Onya" in his bio image (IIRC) for some reason (probably a typo).

 

EDIT:

Edited May 3, 2015 by One-Eyed Construct

[Aanchir]

The fact that the harpoon is Gali's preferred weapon for fighting on the ground doesn't mean that she doesn't also use it underwater, or that she doesn't also use the trident on land. Just that when she IS on land, she prefers using the harpoon to using the trident. All of her tools can be used both on land or underwater. With that in mind, I don't see any contradictions.

[Millennium]

Aren't we being a little too fussy about, well, everything?

[Regitnui]

Aren't we being a little too fussy about, well, everything?

Welcome to BZ-Koro, where no detail is too insignificant.

[Sergei Rahkmaninoff]

The fact that the harpoon is Gali's preferred weapon for fighting on the ground doesn't mean that she doesn't also use it underwater, or that she doesn't also use the trident on land. Just that when she IS on land, she prefers using the harpoon to using the trident. All of her tools can be used both on land or underwater. With that in mind, I don't see any contradictions.

 

This makes sense. But one apparent contradiction remains: if she's using the harpoon on land, then where do the fins/axe blades go? Trying to walk on land with swimfins can be difficult, so it makes little sense that she would wear them on her feet.

[Aanchir]

 

The fact that the harpoon is Gali's preferred weapon for fighting on the ground doesn't mean that she doesn't also use it underwater, or that she doesn't also use the trident on land. Just that when she IS on land, she prefers using the harpoon to using the trident. All of her tools can be used both on land or underwater. With that in mind, I don't see any contradictions.

 

This makes sense. But one apparent contradiction remains: if she's using the harpoon on land, then where do the fins/axe blades go? Trying to walk on land with swimfins can be difficult, so it makes little sense that she would wear them on her feet.

 

It could just be that wearing the fins comes so naturally to her that wearing them on land isn't a serious hindrance. Or just that the convenience of using the Power Harpoon offsets the inconvenience of using the Shark Fins on land.

[fishers64]

It could be like the way Pohatu uses his Stormrangs on land without a single problem.

 

Witness the clack-stomp at the beginning of his golden mask acquiring sequence. 

[believe victims]

It could be like the way Pohatu uses his Stormrangs on land without a single problem.

 

Witness the clack-stomp at the beginning of his golden mask acquiring sequence. 

 

I think that's different. I'm pretty sure the boomerangs on his feet were intended to be a sort of cleat before they changed them to flying devices (or at the very least, they weren't intended to remain unfolded when on his feet), so what we see in the animations is actually technically his adrenalin mode.

 

I don't have bulletproof evidence for that claim, but we have yet to see him use his Jetarangs in any of the animations (always opting to use a sand tornado instead, boomerangs in hand) and not even his comic shows them on his feet unfolded like the final materials show.

 

That's a different case than Gali wearing her fins in a situation where they are, at best, useless.

[fishers64]

I don't have bulletproof evidence for that claim, but we have yet to see him use his Jetarangs in any of the animations (always opting to use a sand tornado instead, boomerangs in hand) and not even his comic shows them on his feet unfolded like the final materials show.

I think that in all cases where the sand tornado was used, the Jeterangs were on his feet. The beginning of Episode 7 clearly shows Pohatu riding a diminishing tornado resolving out to jeterang-clad feet. 

[believe victims]

 

I don't have bulletproof evidence for that claim, but we have yet to see him use his Jetarangs in any of the animations (always opting to use a sand tornado instead, boomerangs in hand) and not even his comic shows them on his feet unfolded like the final materials show.

I think that in all cases where the sand tornado was used, the Jeterangs were on his feet. The beginning of Episode 7 clearly shows Pohatu riding a diminishing tornado resolving out to jeterang-clad feet. 

 

 

 

...No, it doesn't.

 

Neither does the previous episode.

 

 

His sand tornado and his Jetarangs are very clearly unrelated.

[fishers64]

I stand corrected.

[Prowl Nightwolf]

Maybe but did you notice that in those two pictures his arms are switched? So not sure how accurate I'd take them...

[believe victims]

Maybe but did you notice that in those two pictures his arms are switched? So not sure how accurate I'd take them...

 

That's a simple animation error; rather than using an animation model for him facing right, they just flipped the sand tornado animation for him facing left.

[Prowl Nightwolf]

 

Maybe but did you notice that in those two pictures his arms are switched? So not sure how accurate I'd take them...

 

That's a simple animation error; rather than using an animation model for him facing right, they just flipped the sand tornado animation for him facing left.

 

Yeah I think you are right. Even his chest decal is flipped. Seems like spotty animation work. Since they are taking the cheaper route so far I guess that is not surprising.

[Regitnui]

 

 

 

 

I don't have bulletproof evidence for that claim, but we have yet to see him use his Jetarangs in any of the animations (always opting to use a sand tornado instead, boomerangs in hand) and not even his comic shows them on his feet unfolded like the final materials show.

I think that in all cases where the sand tornado was used, the Jeterangs were on his feet. The beginning of Episode 7 clearly shows Pohatu riding a diminishing tornado resolving out to jeterang-clad feet.

 

...No, it doesn't.

 

Neither does the previous episode.

 

 

His sand tornado and his Jetarangs are very clearly unrelated.

Seems they couldn't come up with an 'awesome' name for the sandshoe version of his adrenaline mode.